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WTH is going on with essential depot price change. I used to pay $40-$60 for a box of VG. Now $240!
submitted over 2 years ago by TryingThisOutFinally

Is there some type of shortage of vg or something?

4 gallon box of palm vg from essential Depot used to cost:

2017: $39

2018: $39.83

2019: $49.50

07/21: $90.97

11/22: $239.96! (sale item too!) WTF?! https://www.essentialdepot.com/product/CUBE-4VG.html

They used to charge $25 to ship, now they charge $80 to ship on their amazon account anyway:

https://www.amazon.com/GlyCube-Vegetable-Glycerin-Sustainable-Pharmaceutical/dp/B01GC36E7Q/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1ZFNXQ63XK58A&keywords=essential+depot+vg&qid=1669442190&sprefix=essential+depot+vg%2Caps%2C86&sr=8-2

Updated 11/28/22 - So they responded to my text, didn't even bother responding to email. They only said " Supply Chain Issues " When multiple other companies are selling for half their price, I smell bs. Who knows tho, it could hit them eventually too when they have to restock or something...

Reading up on it further I found this link here: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/global-glycerin-market-analysis-report-091800069.html This is pretty scary, might want to stock up on that VG/PG right now. There is high demand in Asia & Europe.

In addition, the surplus supply of crude glycerin has led to availability of technical-grade glycerin that finds use in industrial applications like propylene glycol and epichlorohydrin production.

The market also stands to benefit from the growing trend towards organic, natural and eco-friendly products and feedstock. Especially poised to benefit is the demand for vegetable glycerin manufactured from soy, coconut or palm.

The global market for Glycerin estimated at US$2.6 Billion in the year 2022, is projected to reach a revised size of US$3.4 Billion by 2026, growing at a CAGR of 6.1% over the analysis period.

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14 points
 
by TeslaDelMarover 2 years agoATF Developer

Not trying to be a smartass, but you should email them and let us know what they say. That's the best way for the community to figure out if it's just a vendor trying to maximize profits or a warning sign for the rest of us that we should be stocking up.

I made a graph using data from web.archive.org, all prices are inflation-adjusted to October 2022 using the CPI Inflation Calculator

Around 2020, suppliers blamed COVID on the price increases for VG and PG. I'm not sure what the reason is for their recent extreme increase in price, especially when other vendors are charging more or less what they always have.

3 points
 
by TryingThisOutFinallyover 2 years ago

Yeah I emailed them, I already made up my mind at this point to never order from them ever again though.

I will update their response if they ever get back to me. I am sure they get this question a lot now, so they will probably ignore it.

Their shipping costs have more than tripled too, I wonder what their excuse will be for that one.

1 points
 
by TeslaDelMarover 2 years agoATF Developer

Fair enough, at least they are far from the only option for these supplies. It'll be interesting if they give you a response.

1 points
 
by TryingThisOutFinallyover 2 years ago

So they responded to my text, saying "Supply Chain Issues" ...Could be some B.S. excuse for over charging, or could hit the other suppliers eventually when they have to restock.

8 points
 
by cakeordeath176over 2 years ago

Their prices are finally what made me start try other brands. There was a shortage for a while. Now I'm sort of thinking they're taking advantage because they know they have a lot of the DIY juice hobby as customers.

EDIT: how much are you trying to buy? I'm seeing a gallon on Amazon for $55 (nearly $70 for non Prime). A quart $14. It's marked down for Black Friday.

4 points
 
by TryingThisOutFinallyover 2 years ago

Looking for 4 gallons, or at least a gallon at a time. Looking back on my last order 7/21 it was $90 for 4 gallons from essential depot, all previous orders were $40-60. So in one year the price went up nearly 3 times!

I think because they figure they're selling it so well on amazon at high prices....minas well.

9 points
 
by wheresandrewover 2 years ago

Order from vapor labs. Still 24 bucks for a gallon. Price doesn't change. Been ordering from them for almost two years.

4 points
 
by TryingThisOutFinallyover 2 years ago

Never heard of them till now. Checked them out, they have the best price I've seen so far. Thanks for the heads up, worth a try to see how it is.

7 points
 
by lastdazeofgravityover 2 years ago

I got a big gallon for like $25 on Amazon. Usp grade

1 points
 
by davepars77over 2 years ago

Link?

5 points
 
by Evening-Arm1234over 2 years ago

I buy mine from bull city, not sure if they if they have gallons though. just checked $30/gallon and free shipping over $50. code “stuffed” for black friday discount.

1 points
 
by vettemn86over 2 years ago

Bull City doesn't do free shipping on their gallon sizes even with coupon code unfortunately

2 points
 
by Evening-Arm1234over 2 years ago

yeah I added that in a later comment.

0 points
 
by TryingThisOutFinallyover 2 years ago

I would as I buy my extracts there, but they're overpriced too. They're only selling 1000ml, which is only 1/4th of a gallon for $14, making a gallon $56. Still on par with ED black friday amazon sale.

I can't bring myself to pay for $56 a gallon when I paid less than that for 4. So reading up on it, they use it for hand sanitizer among many other things. Price hike started around covid, and they just ran with it apparently. Covid is nearly gone, and all supplies are back...so whats their excuse other than just straight up greed?

3 points
 
by Evening-Arm1234over 2 years ago

I just checked their site and shows a gallon for $29 in stock, if you’re buying 4 gallons you’ll get free shipping so $120+tax to your door. seems like a descent deal to me.

3 points
 
by TryingThisOutFinallyover 2 years ago

ahh thanks for the heads up, didn't see the gallon option there with the small picture, that's easy to miss.

Yeah $29 a gallon is decent, and i'm more comfortable with ordering through them rather than some others I don't know.

2 points
 
by Evening-Arm1234over 2 years ago

scratch the free shipping doesn’t qualify but the black friday deal would probably make up for shipping.

1 points
 
by St1llFrankover 2 years agoThis flavor... This is not my kind of flavor

I read that a while back. The free shipping code doesn't work for VG. It's a price/weight thing I'm sure. Flavor Jungle will ship VG for free after a certain cart total though ($75 I think?).

3 points
 
by Barbarakeover 2 years ago

Oh yeah, prices for both VG and PG have gone through the roof over the past couple of years. We're paying close to triple what we paid in 2020.

2 points
 
by vApe_Escapeover 2 years agoTobacconist

Used to buy glycubes then they got super expensive so I swapped to Amazon. Amazon got pricey last year so I switched to Vapor Lab and have been using them for like a year now. Prices vary on there but usually the cheapest. Its $24/gallon right now.

Quality is good and shipping is fine but I will say I really hate the bottles they ship in. They are like rectangular and you have to be very careful not to lose a bit on the first pour(I put my vg/pg in 240ml squeeze bottles for mixing) to the point where I now dump the whole gallon into another jug as soon as I get it and then fill up my 240ml bottle.

2 points
 
by Lndscaprover 2 years ago

https://www.bulkapothecary.com/raw-ingredients/other-ingredients-and-chemicals/glycerin/
https://www.google.com/shopping/product/442795952425745471

I grabbed a 5 Gal from Amazon earlier in the year and remember it was like $79, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GGC5GZC. They dont appear to have this item today.

1 points
 
by TryingThisOutFinallyover 2 years ago

Thanks for the links, that 5 gal from amazon looks good, too bad its not available anymore.

Other link looks good too, as I have seen drums as low as $551. Not sure how much 50lb is, I assume its that bucket containing around 4-5 gallons.

Appreciate it, I or some others might try them out.

1 points
 
by isuamadogover 2 years agoRenaissance Mixer

Wait until you see the price of a dozen eggs.

1 points
 
by JohnyHackzover 2 years ago

Here in canada, my brother told me we have a new tax coming in the new year, something like $1 tax for every 2ml of liquid..

2 points
 
by Biddahvapesover 2 years ago

Wow that's not even legal.

2 points
 
by JohnyHackzover 2 years ago

A lot of things the Canadian government does isn't legal anymore.

1 points
 
by KingpinOfTheSlumover 2 years ago

That listing is for 4 gallons though...

2 points
 
by TryingThisOutFinallyover 2 years ago

Yep that's what 4 gallon box used to cost from the same company. Paid $65 total with shipping for 4 gallons a few years ago...

Now its $320 with shipping...

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