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Getting Rid of Most of My Flavors, Part 12
submitted over 2 years ago by ID10-TWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

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Starting Flavor Count: 2,813 (Down from 2,975 originally)

TASK OR TRASH - Each flavor gets assigned at least one task or it goes in the trash.

#Capella

Black Currant

Update. Way back in Part 3 (yes, that’s how far behind I am when it comes to mixing and trying this stuff) I gave CAP Black Currant one recipe to convince me I should keep it. It did not. TRASH 1

Speaking of blackcurrants...

#Chefs Super Concentrates

Blackcurrant

Last week I blasted through all my CSC flavors, or thought I did. Turns out I inadvertently left off their nice little blackcurrant. On one hand, I think between Flavour Art Blackcurrant, INW Shisha Blackcurrant, and CAP Sweet Currant, I’m not currant-ly hurting for currant flavors. On the other, this is pretty good stuff. A little oddly warm feeling but otherwise excellent. A little tart, very dark, sticky sweet, just funky enough. At 0.5% it tastes like it might get camphorus or medicinal if pushed too high but also tastes like it could or would need to go a little higher for a recipe with blackcurrant as the focus rather than just a secondary or tertiary flavor.

I’ll try gently increasing it to 0.75% and see how that goes TASK 1

#Chemnovatic

I only have a handful of these.

Apricot

Tastes more peachy than apricot to me, but more like a nice, very ripe peach than peach rings candy and could pass for apricot, maybe, in a mix, I guess. It also reminds me of JF Honey Peach, so it’s kind of a question of how much does JF Honey Peach taste like apricot to you? It’s got a lot of darker sweetness and isn’t a really bright flavor. Weak in concentration (I pushed it to 8% based on what someone suggested on ELR), but plenty of flavor. Not really thin, but a little flat, like it hits one note from start to finish other than starting one way and finishing another. I don’t feel compelled to find a way to use this, or see a recipe that uses it that I want to make, so even though it’s fine, I’m going to TRASH 2 it.

Butter

It might disappear into almost any mix but the first thing I noticed about this is that it’s quite a bit too sweet for butter. At the same time, there’s a bit of a sour edge to it, like this butter sat out just a little too long. Not nearly as heavy and rich as I want a butter flavor to be, and a little soft/subtle overall. But for the most part, it tastes like butter. I have betta buttas. TRASH 3

Cookie

I don’t think I’ve tried this one yet. I’ll mix samples at 2% and 4%. TASK 2

Grape

Powerful purple artificial grape flavor. Not super concentrated, but once you get it up there, like at 5%, it has some serious flavor. The first time I hit it I thought it had a bit of a medicinal edge, but a couple more hits and I’d pretty much forgotten about that. It tastes like flat grape soda, but way more intensely than so many others that are so soft and meh. It’s not a complex flavor, not super interesting by itself, but if you’re looking for a candy or soda type of grape, I’d pick this up, for sure.

Well, it tastes like flat grape soda, so I’ll start by trying to unflatten it using Bert’s Soda Base.

Grape Crush V1 TASK 3

Co. | Flavor | % ---|---|---- CNV | Grape | 5 FW | Grape Soda | 1 FLV | Citrus Soda | 1.25 CAP | Lemon Lime | 1 BCF | WS-23 (30%) | 0.5

FW Grape Soda is FILTHY with sucralose, more than most sweeteners. I’m trying to use it mostly in lieu of Super Sweet here, but also for a little bit of grape layering.

Kiwi

Doesn’t taste “bad” to me but doesn’t taste anything like a kiwi, really. It tastes like some kind of tart yet sweet, funky melonish thing. It tastes natural, not candy, but like a fruit that doesn’t actually exist. TRASH 4

Lemon Cream Wafer

I still haven’t tried this, though I think I have mixed at least one recipe that uses it. People went nuts over it supposedly being the key to cloning this Lemon Tart commercial juice I’ve never tried.

Instead of trying it by itself, I’ll mix this recipe, it’s close enough: Dinner Lady Lemon Tart TASK 4

Might as well check out some of these other recipes while I’m at it.

Here’s another simple recipe that looks good: EZ Lemon Tart TASK 5

This one looks even better at the cost of only the time to pull out and measure two more ingredients: ADV Lemon Tart, so I’ll see if that’s worth it. TASK 6

And see what happens if you mix almost all the lemon bakery flavors together: Lemon Bakehouse Queen TASK 7

I’m afraid of the SSA Clotted Cream in this but we’ll give it a shot anyway: Breakfast Lemon Breakfast Biscuits. TASK 8

Quite a few of these CNV Lemon Cream Wafter/VT Lemon Meringue Tart combos. I’ll try another Cam’s Lemon Bar. TASK 9

And another Lemon Premcake TASK 10

And another, this one actually looks the yummiest of those to me: Lemon Meringuey Curdy Cake TASK 11

Finally, this recipe: LMP had me at Crumble Topping and Cookie Butter. TASK 12

Marshmallow

It is unusual for two different flavors to taste so similar that they really work as substitutes for each other without changing and potentially messing up a recipe, but if you already have WF Marshmallow Gooey, I believe you do not need CNV Marshmallow. And vice versa. They taste almost identical if you try CNV at 1% and WF Marshmallow Gooey at 2%, so you only need half as much CNV Marshmallow. That would likely make CNV the more economical choice for many, but BCF has WF and not CNV and they keep giving me store credit for my recipe pack even though I can’t imagine who is still out there buying that stuff. So I’m going to keep WF and toss CNV, but just know if you make a recipe that uses CNV Marshmallow, people without it can still try your recipe, just tell them to use WF Marshmallow Gooey at twice the concentration. TRASH 5

Passion Fruit

Excellent passion fruit flavor. This one checks all the boxes, really bright and punchy tart top notes, very fresh and natural, a sweeter, darker, and very juicy body, a little funky tropicality. Lots of flavor, very full from one end to the other, not top heavy or thin. I would like a little more flavor than I got from a 2% sample but I think bumping it up a little would do that, and even 2% would be great in a mix. Throat hit less than your average lemon flavor.

None of the recipes that use it really made me excited so I’m just gonna mix my own thing.

Whipped Pineapple Passion V1 TASK 13

Co. | Flavor | % ---|---|---- CNV | Passion Fruit | 2.5 CAP | Fresh Pineapple | 2 INW | Dragon Fruit | 0.25 CAP | Vanilla Whipped Cream | 2 OoO | Marshmallow Vanilla | 2

Sponge Cake

Buttery, but not in a good way. There’s just way too much fake movie theater butter. It’s still overbearing to the point of ruining the flavor. It does taste like a real, eggy sponge cake otherwise, but a sponge cake drizzled with popcorn “butter.” Even if you think that doesn’t sound disgusting, you have to at least admit that it’s super weird. TRASH 6

Sweet Cream

Buttery, sweet, a little funky, a little dry on top but makes up for it with a smooth, fatty, mouthcoating finish. The funkiness is a bit cheesy tastes like probably butyric acid so it might be a no-go for people who are especially sensitive to the stuff, but doesn’t come across pukey to me, just a bit cheesy, both at 1% and 2%. I don’t need a slightly cheesy sweet cream, though I probably would have mixed someone's cheesecake recipe using it, I didn’t see one and don’t feel like I’m gonna miss out on something too terribly amazing if I just let it go. TRASH 7

Vanilla Ice Cream

Another instance where two flavors are so similar no one needs both. I can barely tell the difference between CNV Vanilla Ice Cream and MB Thick Vanilla Ice Cream, at the same concentration, side by side, on the same type of RDA. CNV Vanilla Ice Cream seemed just a little less sweet as a single flavor, but probably not enough to make such a difference in a mix that they can't be used interchangeably. I’m just going to keep the MB for now. TRASH 8

Vanilla Pudding

I don’t remember having tried this one yet. I’ll give it a mix at 2%. TASK 14

I’m sure it’s going to be good, because as best I can tell without knowing what it tastes like, people have made some incredible-looking recipes out of it. I want to try some of those as well.

Creme de pudim TASK 15

Bang Custard TASK 16

Apple Bobbin Noggin Custard TASK 17

Vanilla Pudding IYF TASK 18

Pistachio Pud says SNV but I’m going to give TFA Whipped Cream a couple of weeks. TASK 19

Vanilla Eggnog Cookie TASK 20

Major. I have concerns about the spiciness of Zeppola but Wolfwheeler tends to know what he’s doing. TASK 21

Shunsui Kyōraku I’m also concerned about the WF Egg Yolk, by itself I think it’s disgusting and doesn’t belong anywhere near my juice. But again, Wolfie. So, I’ll give it a try and this might be Egg Yolk’s one chance to not get binned. TASK 22

Strawgo TASK 23

Mouthgasm. Do you ever feel like sometimes Sam is just weird for the sake of being weird? And yet, curiosity gets the better of me, I need to know what this tastes like. TASK 24

50 Shades of Butterscotch. Tie me up and do whatever you want to me, baby. TASK 25

Cum Bubbles, gross name but unless that’s too much shortbread cookie for my taste I’m sure it’s yummy. I might just have to abbreviate it “CB” on the bottle. TASK 26


This was a short one because I was out of town most of the week remembering the Alamo, and the next one will probably be short, too, because I'm looking at a busy week of community and personal activities and catching up from being out of town. But I'll at least try to cover all the Club der Dampfer flavors that my friend Felix sent me from Germany.

New Flavor Count: 2,805

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by RKO1195over 2 years ago

Awesome thanks for your time and work

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by ID10-Tover 2 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

You’re welcome, thanks for reading

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by heimsins_konungrover 2 years ago

Just wanna throw in there that Shunsui Kyōraku is the best custard recipe I've ever had. The Egg Yolk is pure magic, here.

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by uDntWntSmokover 2 years ago

Funny you say that about your community recipe pack over at BCF as your mango colada is currently in my cart in my very 1st flavor purchase. Shame you are tossing all these, maybe you can donate them?

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by ID10-Tover 2 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

I could, but packaging, postage, the pain in the ass of going to the post office, waiting in line, and the fact that in my experience bottles that have been opened have a high chance of leaking in transit.. all of that makes donating them too much trouble when the trash can is just right there.

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by billj81over 2 years ago

Following since these started. Can only image how far behind you are mixing all these tasks. It has inspired me to do something similar. My results won’t be type worthy though

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by ID10-Tover 2 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

How do you know they won’t be type worthy? I think I’d like to see them

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by oMGLUover 2 years ago

Shunsui Kyoraku is absolutely delicious. Make sure you give it the proper steep time for that egg yolk to fade into the background. Any idea where you picked up the CNV Passion Fruit?I wanna try that one.

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by wolfwheelerover 2 years ago

Hard agree.

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by ID10-Tover 2 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

It was either Chefs (in which case hurry, while supplies last) or Nomz.

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by oMGLUover 2 years ago

Awesome, thank you!

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by OhMyAmygdalaover 2 years ago

Another page of notes in my almost full notebook! I don't know how the heck you're able to keep all these flavors and brands and percentages in your brain! I'm trying and mixing and ordering and remixing and ordering and holy crap where was I? That's not even touching on the absolute fuckery involved in building coils for RDA's that I learned was a flavor testing necessity after I got into all this.

Jeez, only 2 months ago it was so simple. A few Istick picos and nautilus tanks and a juice and coil order every few months. It was never, ever this fun though! Never tasted as good, either. But holy crap, I need to learn how to pace myself and take better notes. As ever, you are the guru, the inspiration, the best! It occurs, however, that as you get rid of flavors I add more and more and more.....

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by ID10-Tover 2 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

Hopefully this little project of mine is helping you to not buy things you won’t use, as I have. I’m not a guru, I’m a cautionary tale.

Ever bought premade coils from individuals who know what they’re doing? Game changing for me, especially since I have about same the manual dexterity as a walrus and hate building coils because of it. There are people who actually love it and find it every bit as relaxing as I find it nerve wracking. I like paying them to do what they love and I hate. And even if you don’t despise it, major timesaver.

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by OhMyAmygdalaover 2 years ago

Who are these coil builders and why the hell did I buy a coil jig and ohms tester? Who the hell did I think I was? Make me a better person and get me out of this mess I've made of my desk!! I'd love to support a coil builder. See? Still a freaking guru. I was on the verge of trying to make my own Clapton wire. I'd already swiped my SO's drill and hidden it in my filing cabinet. I'll just put it back in the garage now...

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by eyeMsam89over 2 years ago

Cum Bubbles description fuckin kills me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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by eyeMsam89over 2 years ago

I thought mouthgasm was genius lmao hope you enjoy it. Are you gonna post reviews for all these recipes you're gonna try out??

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by ID10-Tover 2 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

Yes. Some of them I’m also detailing in these posts, but all of them will get reviews wherever I found them, ATF or ELR

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