I am expecting something like that yes but have yet to see any official news.

I do hope it wont be an outright flavor ban but we know the EU doesnt care and will probably do the worst possible.

I guess we will be stuck with wide use aromas like fa, cap, etc

Edit: I do wonder how they will classify a tobacco flavor and what kind of testing the vape use flavoring will have to go through to be legal to sell

haha, yes. You can go in and buy hard alchohol and easily drink yourself to death, but that's a-ok. Flavored liquors included. But flavored tobacco, vaping, etc are apparently going to be under prohibtion. Prohibition is a bad idea IMO, when you can just regulate it and make sure it's only available to people who can make judgement on whether to vape. Here in the US, marijuana is increasingly decriminalized and sold for medical in much of the US, recreational, but in fewer states. It's legal in Canada, and Mexico. That's ok, because they say they can regulate it, but there's still a black market to undercut dispensary prices.

I mean, in some states here, you can buy hard alcohol in an isle of most normal grocery stores(I know in California you can, and it can't be the only state that does that.) Last time I was in Canada, you couldn't buy beer and low proof alcohol in convenience stores. You had to go to a beer/wine store for that, and they strictly sold beer & wine. You had to go to an even more controlled store to buy distilled spirits and higher proof liquor. Albeit you could buy it at age 18 or 19 depending on the province versus 21 in the US. I was pretty surprised when they first raised the smoking age from 18 to 21 in much of the US. I had smokers in the 18-21 age group trying to get me to buy them cigarettes at gas stations(I didn't, but at the time I was unaware the smoking age had gone up, so I assumed they were under 18, and wouldn't have helped them anyways.)

I'm actually sort of surprised that vaping flavored nictoine is being treated like it's worse than cigarettes, and yes the ban on menthol cigarettes is making a lot of people upset. Vaping is less harmful. Not without risks, but smoking has always been for pleasure. Geez, do they want to create a black market for ejuice, menthol, etc. Because that will happen. As long as there is demand, you'll find somebody selling it.

yeah, they can't easily ban flavoring, because it's advertised for aromatherapy, making candles, and all sorts of other legit uses.

Are u still talking about salts?

(Are u from holland?)

Yes. We just have to deal with ridiculous controls on shipping that add twenty dollars to your order.

True, it is still available in the US, but in the past it was very easy to get online and thru the mail in a format that was setup and easy for DIY, e.g., a LB base bottle. Those simple and easy DIY solvent products are increasingly popular and available in Europe as they receive a lower tax than the ready to vape ejuice. In the US, some people who dont live near a good vape shop are just SOL and many are back to tobacco as the statistics show.

Yes, I thought vape shops were going to have to stop selling e-juice and devices. That they'd only be able to keep selling kratom/noids/tobacco products, etc. Then not long ago, I went into one of my local vape shops, and to my surprise, they had plenty of vape juice, all of the same devices, etc.

Right after the FDA decision to regulate nic salts, I think the vape shops were cautious about what the repercussions of continuing to sell e-juice would be, but after a little while, they started selling them again. The FDA hasn't enforced the ban yet. And from my understanding there are legal hurdles they could face that could possibly delay enforcement for quite some time. I also noticed online sellers are selling again, although with shipping challenges from some retailers, and other only doing B2B. Essentially the cost of ordering online is prohibitive compared to just buying from a reasonably priced local shop. I can still get 48mg & 50mg juice with little issue. I think the variety seems slightly lower though(not as many options for each shop).

I have a 1L of 100mg/ml nic salt in VG & 1 L of 60mg/mL of freebase nicotine in PG in my fridge(no I know I can't mix freebase and nic salt, it just seemed easier to do the calculations for sub-ohm e-juice base, and MTL with those concentrations. Probably 3,6, or 12mg/ml for the base, and 48-50mg nic salt and getting food grade PG & VG is no problem). I'v had it in my fridge for 2-3 months, and I know I should probably put it in a deep freezer. I've just been lazy about decanting it into 50/100mg amber boston bottom bottles so I don't have to get any more nicotine than I could use out at one time. It's sealed in amber containers under nitrogen right now though for the time being.

I was pretty pissed that just as I switched to vaping from tobacco, which I heard is like 90-95% harm reduction as opposed to smoking tobacco, was going to be hard to get right after I started. The equipment, raw nicotine, flavoring, mods, coils, and all of that were a considerable investment. I could still probably use some more mods, perhaps a different brand & whatnot to get coils/pods easier locallly.

I think it's funny that doctors don't realize that vaping is so much safer than smoking cigarettes. I tell them, and the next time I see them, they'll say they looked it up and know what I mean. I say it's a shame that they are pushing adults back to smoking cigarettes just because younger people are deciding it's more appealing. But even if you factor in vaping(which is safer for them than cigarettes) and smokers in high school, it's still a lower smoking rate for high schoolers than it was a few decades ago in the late 90's when I was in high school.

Sure, you could save a lot of lives if you lower the nicotine levels in regular cigarettes, giving people the option to experience the flavor /experience of smoking or whatever they are claiming, and offer safer alternatives that aren't near as deadly. Hundreds of thousands of lives per year in the US. That's what I think they should do, rather than making people going back to smoking cigarettes.

Sorry I went off on a tangent, I'm just sayinng you are right, nicotine is still very much available in the US still. For vaping and plain old fashioned tobacco, cigars, loose tobacoo, chewing, snus, and other forms. I can still get snus from sweeden/norway if I want in all sorts of flavors, but in quantity to justify shipping cost. Same with other forms of nicotine.