TPA DK Tobacco
Setup: mtl STNG 0.8 Ohm 2.0 ID 28/40 clapton 28.5W
nose: i forgot to sniff it and im too lazy to do it now.
Description:
4% - At 7 days, this is a kind of unusual flavor. I dont think this is the most appealing description but it almost tastes like a sweet woody dark perfume. That's a horrible description, but it has that kind of unusual combination of flavors you sort of see in TPA RY4 Asian while being on this side of the tasty line. It would still need a deft hand to make work in a mix, yet seems particularly worth the effort. Already I'm thinking that at 1-2% this could be that 'secret ingredient' for spiced bacco blends or even maybe spiced bakeries. The main notes I'm getting are a bit of leafy mixed with some darker notes all bended into a sweetness that makes it seem like an RY1 Asian. If you like that novelty factor of RY4 Asian, but want to start with something a bit less aggressively odd, this could be what you are missing. And, who are we kidding, it's TPA so it is definitely affordable if not also easy to find (both bcf and diyvs carry this flavor as of posting).
DK has this dark base note, with that bit of leaf that isn't brittle or off putting even at 4% like I could imagine FA 7 Leaves being that high. I really do wish I could explain it better but it defies description since it tastes sweet and slightly acrid without being bad at all. There's a touch of a slight floral hint that can sometimes come across a bit golden but it's so attached to that unique leafiness it's more like golden leaves with a hint of an odd sort of sour note that can be off putting if you arent into it. I'm into it both for novelty and because I think it can easily be bent into a golden blend or some kind of honey/nut mix.
Suggested percent: Solo 2-4%, in a mix 1-2% should be sufficient with 3 probably being the highest I would go unless paired with something much darker and richer.
Pairing ideas: You could probably do all kinds of weird things with this and fruits that would take to a bit of a leafy honey golden note. I could see this going with some rice/starch like flavors, all, ofc, in addition to using as an accent to tobacco recipes as an unusual additive note. Strangely enough, I want to pair this with TPA Black Honey and some kind of golden tobacco with maybe a hint of something plainer to normalize the flavors.
dk base
Tobacco base + Black Honey + 555 makes the bulk of the mix. Hint of Gold Ducat to add that more aggressive golden note and pull out that floral edge. Decano for it's similar semi-citrusy notes and floral-y oddity.
| % | Vendor | Flavor | |---|--------|--------| |2|SC|555| |1.5|TPA|Black Honey| |1|FA|Decano Tobacco| |3|TPA|Dk Tobacco Base| |1|INW|Gold Ducat|
The results here were mostly pleasant after about a week. Slightly sweet contrast to that leafy woody base, golden notes that border on floral but don't quite get there and the strange soury notes from both decano and the dk play nicely into a very odd blend.
Second Opinions:
Couldn't find a Noted review for it. Lemme know if you can find it.
ELR User HappyDee writes:
> Found this quite a floral tobacco. In fact, a little too floral for me. I found it hard to vape. Even at low%. However, probably could vape it if it was all I had!
I will not give up on this I will find the right mix for it. Perhaps I need to try it quite low in %.
ELR user Houseofpain culled what must be several notes from around the web. Here are some highlights:
> This has a strong pungent almost fermented or vinegary odor and flavor, with a floral carpet deodorizer finish. It packs the same punch when diluted. I haven't tried enough Dekang liquids to compare it to, but I don't get tobacco from it, more of an artificial cigar approximation made with ingredients which might be prohibited for use in every jurisdiction save China. I'm not suggesting it actually is, just that it's got quite a strong personality that's not for the faint of heart.
> This is a very complex flavor that is based on the Dekang family. It has a bit of citrus, a little sour, a slightly sweet and nutty base, some floral.
Final Thoughts
At the end of the day, I can totally see this being a useful flavor. You get the novelty for novelty's sake without compromising flavor and at a decent price. I'd not be surprised if whatever the compounds are that put the dekang in the DK are the same as the ones that put the Asian in the RY4, or have some overlap, yet the differences allow this one to be used or taken in the direction that you want it. Probably used in a fair few of OG commercial mixes so definitely see this being useful to the old school tobacco cloners. While "not for the faint of heart" seems appropriate a warning, I can definitely see this being your secret weapon used super low in addition to maybe a few other accents like oak and maybe if you want to add a little variety in your rotation for that tpa entry price.
The only recipe I've ever used it in is this one from /u/project_twenty5oh1, the Nanner/Polar clone that became the basis for Prairie (I think?)
6.0% TFA DK Base
5.0% TFA Banana Cream
3.0% TFA Banana Nut Bread
1.0% TFA Bananas Foster
3.0% TFA Peanut Butter
0.3% TFA Koolada
0.2% TFA Coconut Extra
0.3% TFA Smooth
1.0% Strong Mint/Menthol Concentrate
I could never describe it other than to say I found it "more-ish" and used this recipe to help my sister's BIL finally quit smoking and switch to vaping.
https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/2lsbi1/in_celebration_of_reaching_25000_comment_karma_on/?st=IX3QN6MB&sh=29e41527
Thanks for a good and detailed review, doggo!
I really liked the final thoughts. Very informative!
There’s a recipe on ELR called Old Toby which uses this that I’ve been tweaking to my preference.
2% TPA black honey tobacco 1% TPA caramel 3% TPA DK tobacco
There’s a recipe on ELR called Old Toby which uses this that I’ve been tweaking to my preference.
2% TPA black honey tobacco
1% TPA caramel
3% TPA DK tobacco
That makes sense. Good to know I was on track there. How’d you change/adapt the recipe?
Haven’t done much with it, just bumped the DK down and caramel up so everything is at 2%.
I think with the last batch I bumped the caramel up to 2.5% but haven’t had a chance to try it yet. I try to let it steep for quite a while so it’s a long time between iterations.
I’m always impressed you can commit so much time to creating content for the sub and still forget to flair your posts.
You're making me consider picking this one up just because it sounds so funky. I guess I need that Decano as well. Thanks, Dog!
i'm actually vaping that dk base right now and i do like me a funky golden honey bacco mix (RIP Gold for Pipe), but i assume you will do better things with it. for a buck twenty-nine? why the hell not? ;)
I don't know about all that, but you've definitely got my interested. On the list it goes! How goes the SC 555 compare to INW 555 Gold?
pretty different imo. inw is way more aggressive and nutty. the sc is way milder on the nut front, but it has a bit of perfume so i used it here to lean into that. I like the SC's mostly to fill in the bottom for the other flavors that have more actual bacco notes. I'll eventually make a recommended list for the SC's I've tried but im trying to line up with what's available at FJ these days. Cigar I wrote off originally, but im finding it very useful these days. Cohiba, black mile, c-style and old cap so far have been the ones i reach for the most. Old Cap was another one i originally wrote off because i was expecting a bacco note and got chocolate. my own myopia normally prevents me from seeing a flavor's usefulness.
I strongly recommend you try Platano En Culo and Virgil's Patience by Gordona Vapes. They both need a long steep though.
https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/5533#platano_en_culo_by_gordona_vapes_by_r08u57
https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/5534#virgil_s_patience_by_gordona_vapes_by_r08u57
Theres some notes in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/4ol2j3/does_anybody_know_where_i_can_find_a_clone_of/
If it sounds like something you'd like I'd also recommend The Lord from that post as well. No tobacco but its really nice. I like to mix it with a 10% VaPe/Or blend for a really amazing spicy tobacco brownie BUT it needs like 45 days at least. I actually have some of this going right now using a cold macerated Ascanian No. 2 NET but you could probably mix something up pretty good with normal tobacco flavorings. I'd say probably maybe Tobacco Symphony or FLV Virginia for the Virginia notes, Black for Pipe and/or Dark for Pipe for the Perique notes and INW Oriental absolute for Oriental. Probably some INW DNB as well.
Could also maybe do something like INW SCamel with some B4P/D4P, DNB, and really any of INW Absolute Virginia, Garuda, or Oriental depending on what you have. Maybe some FLV Red Burley even though its not really typical for a VaPe/Or blend.
Are any of these Flavors NET or naturally extracted tobacco or are they all simulated Tobbaco and nutty artificials like Capella, TFA, etc?
I only am reviewing the one. I don’t understand your question.
I guess I was just asking in general about TPA including DK tobacco. I already got it answered by Bull City. Anything TPA, Capella or from Bull City for that matter is not made with real tobacco.