basically title: how do I know if an aroma (or one-shot, like the heisenberg from VV) is supposed to be used with a 70/30 base or a 50/50 base for instance?
I'm guessing some more "basic" aromas/one-shots like popcorn are supposed to run on DL 70/30-80/20 and tobaccos or complex ones are better on MTL 50/50 or 40/60, but are there any signs I should look for?
Edit: I'm testing all my liquids on a Wasp nano in bottom feeder/dripper for DL/flavor and on a pod/a tank for MTL/RDL
I use a 70/30 for all flavors. But I only DTL. I steep all my recipes for at least 5 days. Some of my more complex recipes I steep longer.
okay I guess, but don't you find 70/30 juices a bit 'harder to taste well' compared to 50/50?
It's because pg carries flavor more.
No just because the pg carries the flavor there's really no difference in flavor and if there was I'd just add more flavoring but there's little to no difference..I mix 50-50 for my Gf pod system 20 mg salt nic and 70-30 for my tanks 6 mg freebase and use multiple different recipies at same flavor percentage for either device I'm mixing for
Isn’t ratio supposed to be a property of what your gear is and how you vape?
yes, but I found 70/30 juices to be less aromatic, thus allowing me to 'taste' complex aromas less, while tasting some 'too much'(not concentration-wise) or 'too thin' when 50/50
Yes, PG is a better flavor carrier.
So I guess the best guidance would be maximize PG that your gear can handle?
Have you tried using a higher percentage of flavoring? Higher vg juices often need a higher percentage of flavor vs higher pg.
Nah..its not enough of a difference in flavor if any to even notice..its been debated on Fb vape groups a lot and most have decided there's hardly a difference..50-50 is for low watt higher mg strength mtl tanks and not because its better with flavor not in my experiences anyway
It's too simplistic to just look at the vg/pg ratio. You need to look at the individual flavourings themselves. They are all different and require different percentages based on their individual formulations for the flavour to come through.
I'm mainly talking about pre-made concentrated recipes, so you get your 10ml aroma in pg and concentrate it to something between 5% and 15% in a diy base
Man this was a ride through the comments until it made sense. Generally,the one shots will give you a suggested flavor percentage. I'd assume 70/30 if you are using tanks/RTAs, and can go up or down from there if it feels light. If it doesn't and you can't find any information, I'd guess 7% and adjust from there.
Generally higher mg Salt nic(15-20mg) or freebase traditional nic (12-18 mg)is used with 50-50 or 60-40 at Lower wattages like a mtl Rta but a subohm tank at 3 or 6mg strength I'd use 70-30 no matter what the flavor or One Shot recipie...if it needs more one shot you add more but don't change the vg to pg ratio just correct it to match what gear your using
This was way more confusing than it needed to be 😃 and I think a lot of it is the same thing I'm going thru on Fb vape groups.The language or diff dialect creates some of the confusion too. The other day I asked When you guys across the pond say Aroma are you talking about single flavor concentrates? You'd be surprised the different answers I got.This guy insisted the word Concentrates refers to One shots and Aromas were single flavors when in fact here in the US a Concentrate is the same as an Aroma That wasn't what this Reddit post was asking I get that but it didn't help with different words and terms,that alone can cause a bit of confusion
Yeah, the lingo is more of a slang that is sometimes even different from person to person; for example here we have about 4-5 ways to call the ecig, with only one being correct.
I'm pretty sure it's the same for a lot of other things in vaping, and most of the influence on our lingo actually comes from who showed us the ropes.
Also, I think the fact that nobody here uses single aromas plays its part: it is almost impossible to get them and even if you do it's online only and a lot of the times low quality aswell; you're usually just better off getting a one-shot to concentrate at 10% like everyone does and be done with it.
Yeah I can see why there's the bit of disconnect but at least I recognize it now now lol.Oh is that right? No single flavor concentrates to speak of,that sucks I guess we have it easier here.The kid that was telling me One shots are called concentrates(and what started this whole thing on fb yesterday lol) showed me a pic of TFA sweet strawberry from there but instead of just being in pg he said its shop specific? and it said Sweet strawberry Vg Pg 10 mg Tfa I was like wtf? 😂 I've never seen that before it was like a single flavor but it had both vg n pg,it was Tfa and appeared to have nic in it? Like a finished bottle ready to vape of Tfa's strawberry sweet lol He said something to the effect its shop specific which Im still confused about n caught myself thinking about it today as it seemed Bizarre so that being said u might be right and better off using one shots because it does seem like a lot of hassle to get all the Diff single flavs but i know Chefs flavors has them there and they have FA which is considered super concentrates which he also never heard of so it was quite the conversation that just grew and I see the same type stuff going on here at Reddit 😂
Welp, you can get single flavours on like Amazon and similar, but it's all low quality and overpriced. About pre-mades, the thing here is taxes: every "eliquid" (as in mix of Pg and vg) is highly taxed, for example every 10ml with nic has a flat tax of 3.5€, and max nic concentration is 20mg/ml. So what happens usually is that people buy Pg and vg separately, along with pg only aromas, so they aren't taxed like ejuices. Then you get your 20mg/ml boosters and make your eliquid paying way more than you should, but still less than the pre-made juices going at 5€/10ml