I only tend to buy base every couple years but I went online the other day and everything I can find is crazy expensive. Lots of places have closed, some only sell 20mg/ml. I'm sure this isn't new to most people but I'm a little bit shocked.
No one has mentioned the proposed nicotine tax tucked into the BBB bill moving through Congress.
If that tax passes the price of nicotine is going to skyrocket. According to CASAA a liter of 100mg wiill be $2800 just in tax.
Wat?!
Yes. It's part of Bidens's Build Back Better Act.
The initial proposal was actually double what they're asking now.
https://filtermag.org/federal-vape-tax-reappears-in-build-back-better-new-cigarette-tax-vanishes/
https://vaping360.com/vape-news/111840/nicotine-tax-update-whats-changed-and-whats-ahead/
They are finally flat out admitting they want you to smoke instead of vape.
I think the solution to this may be that people start extracting their own nicotine from tobacco.
hell here you have to have a business license to buy vg/pg with no nicotine from some websites. I've got about another 6 months worth of liquid nicotine stashed away and I don't know what I'm going to do after that.
If your in the US there are a few places still selling it .. perfect vape, nicotine giant and others.. but price is rising and shipping is getting harder.
If you want it better get it now.
Most are now shipping through an alt carrier.. it takes longer, MUCH longer.
It was easy to get first quarter of the year .. I knew of the impending doom of no more shipments from fedx, ups, and now USPS . it was all over the net it was coming.
I bought 5 gallons I'm set for as long as I want to vape or still breathing
Perfect Vape got me my package twice as fast with xps shipping rather than usps. Took two days from ordering to recieve my package. From Oklahoma to New York. No, shipping does not take longer now. It's quite a bit faster.
Here in Malaysia I can get 30 ml of 100mg freebase nicotine for just RM25/6 USD. I think it is cheap enough. Dont know the price for other countries. Is it cheaper or more expensive?
Shipping harder because of the PACT Act signed by Trump, then BBB will tax the crap out of it under Biden. Can't win for loosing.
Yeah, I have to find someone else now that Wizard Labs has gotten squirrely.
Wizard Labs was my go-to as well. I just went to order more today and was smacked with the news that I have somehow missed for months. Now I have to decide to try and quit or find alternates.
I emailed WL for a price list and as of their response (12/7/2021) they are shipping via USPS, and will continue to do so "until they tell us to stop". Might be worth reaching out.
I spoke to them today and they informed me they are not selling or shipping any nicotine products. I told them I wanted to cancel my pending order as I didn't need the supplies if I didn't have the nicotine. They happily cancelled the order, so I am relatively confident that they're not just bowing smoke.
Are you in Canada?
United States. But I'll gosh darn drive to the border if prices are better up there. Is it like maple syrup, can one just tap a nicotine tree and fill up their bucket?
They live under a rock... it's Patrick
Saw the vape ban coming and and ordered up a lire BBB is a sham
"BBB is a sham"
They will pass some version of it and it will contain some sort of nicotine/tobacco tax. That's just about a given.
Yeah, I have a life time supply of nic and vape hardware too.
It's been a month or two since I bought nicotine, and while it was getting trickier to find a vendor, I didn't notice anything like even a 2x price increase.
I haven't look since then, but it wouldn't surprise me given the volatility in the industry lately.
Can’t speak for the entire industry, but yes, sort of.
Chinese and Indian nicotine is (generally) the main base for nicotine around the world.
Chinese govt. controls this supply pretty tightly.
I heard that RELX bought basically the entire supply of Chinese nicotine for use in their pods, which drove up the price of the remaining nicotine dramatically.
This may be bullshit, but I trust this source, and our wholesale nicotine rates have gone up around 5x.