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Am I better off leaving 100mg nic base in a dark cool closet for a couple weeks while I wait for glass bottles to decant or should I put the manufacturer plastic bottle into freezer then thaw in a couple weeks to decant?
submitted almost 4 years ago by Accomplished-Car5581

I guess what I am asking is how quickly does nic oxidize in a plastic bottle at room temp? And how much degradation occurs when it experiences a couple freeze thaw cycles? These are probably silly questions and the answer is that it's negligible but I'm totally new at this and I'm trying to do everything right.

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by Skineedogalmost 4 years ago

Can’t go wrong either way. Couple weeks unlikely to make much difference.

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by TDVapesalmost 4 years ago

Freeze it in the original bottle. Won't hurt for that amount time. It won't "freeze" and you'll only need a few hours to get it back to room temperature.

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by NuttyNana1almost 4 years ago

It's a couple of weeks. Especially if it's unopen it would sit on a shelf like that at the warehouse.

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by QueenBuzyBeealmost 4 years ago

Hi. You won’t have several freeze/warm up cycles because you can estimate how much you‘ll need for the next few weeks and fill that into a small bottle (shake it well beforehand). Put the rest into the freezer until your glass bottles arrive (2-4oz. with polycone caps, argon wine preserver). Before you fill the glass bottles, let it sit a bit until it reaches room temperature, shake and fill.

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by kvn4almost 4 years agoSir-Mix-A-Lot

I put my nic in the freezer just to be on the safe side when I had to the same as you

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by Accomplished-Car5581almost 4 years ago

One vote for putting it in the freezer as is. Thanks.

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by coop34almost 4 years ago

You've gotten good advice, I just wanted to suggest testing quality now before breaking down. Just a small batch of unflavored. Good to know now in case you need to contact the vendor.

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by mindmaster064almost 4 years ago

It takes a long time, maybe over a year. Really only the top layer of the juice is exposed to the air.

What will get you though is UV exposure. Sunlight directly destroys the nic and alters the composition of the base. These compounds are generally stable at room to near room temps for awhile, and can take brief exposure to outdoor randomness without much change going on, but after that you can expect the juice to severely degrade.

Freezing air will not harm 50/50 PG/VG because PG is basically antifreeze... HOWEVER... If your juice is 20/80 (PG/VG) or less PG then it's likely your VG will freeze sold or burst the container. Warm weather doesn't have much of an effect so long as you aren't leaving it out in a 120+F vehicle for any extended period of time. (PG is hydrophobic, it will draw water from the air into the mix eventually, and this is what causes your problem. When there is high enough PG count it will neutralize the freezing feature, but not when it's low PG) VG is vegetable fat basically, so this again isn't a reactive substance. It's not going to degrade no matter how long you keep it, but keep all things out of sun.. It's really the worst problem. Intentionally freezing it is completely unnecessary, again it's mostly air/sun exposure that does the worst. Temp flux is largely irrelevant unless you live in an igloo or in the middle of a desert. People freezing their nic are just drawing a correlation to how tobacco products can be preserved via freezing that doesn't exist (nor is required) for nic juice. It's important to note that PG is an alcohol and this keeps anything from actually degrading the compounds in the juice to some extent.

Anyway, you can visibly see whether a nic base is going bad, it'll look more like urine / amber than translucent with a yellow tinge. It's still usable, but you will likely have to use more of it. (Again, the topmost layer of the container is usually all that is getting oxidized. If you aren't disturbing the container at all between makings this can take a hell of a lot of time.) I usually bulk buy my nic base, and they keep for as long as I keep them out of the sun and unopened. Since you use them one at a time, it's not a problem. Some of the containers I've opened are years old by the time I crack them... give them a quick shake, crack them, and they look no different than the ones that I just bought. I've had a few that I've maybe had a few shots left in the container and just exposed them to certain things including cold, heat, and leaving the cap off. The sun and the cap off were the two worst things you could do. The rest I couldn't even detect.

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by kuri_sanToualmost 4 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Shake it and test it. Place in the freezer. Let it thaw a day before you decant. If you’re taste test sucks, email the batch number to the vendor.

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by Mother_Punkeralmost 4 years agoUnsung Hero

I left it out for 2 wks before I decanted/preserved. Mine is still fine. I can’t stress enough tho to test a small sample first before hand. Seen enough ppl on here that found out the hard way later that there was something wrong with their batch.

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by sickysickybrahalmost 4 years ago

I keep 100 mg nic in the freezer and it stays a liquid. I typically mix every 2 to 3 months and it stays fresh. It only stays out of the freezer for 20 minutes or so and then goes back in.

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by kuri_sanToualmost 4 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

That introduces oxygen. You can displace that air with argon gas before putting it back in the freezer

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by sickysickybrahalmost 4 years ago

I don't leave the cap off and i actually have the nude nicotine one where you dump it upside down and stick the needle in and no oxygen gets inside.

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by kuri_sanToualmost 4 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

That’s neat

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by JColt60almost 4 years ago

I just opened a liter and transferred into 60 ml bottles after the liter spent 1.5 years in freezer. Nice and clear still.

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by Zany1337almost 4 years agoMissing One Flavor

There's no need to thaw to decant - It won't freeze

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by dustymadealmost 4 years ago

You need to allow the bottle to come to room temp or you risk getting condensation in the bottle.

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