Is it possible to convert a TFA recipe to a CAP recipe?
Example Recipe (All TFA flavours):
5% Mango
4% Peach (juicy)
2% Strawberry
1% Raspberry
1% Blueberry
It's possible but there's not a universally applicable formula to get you 1:1 results. In fact, most TFA/CAP flavors are different enough that they aren't interchangable. It won't hurt to substitute one for the other but your results won't be similar.
It's not my recipe. It's one that was in the old mango flavor thread, that had an appealing combination of flavors. I'm more so wondering what a CAP approximation of flavoring percentages would be for a mix like that.
I wan to stick with CAP, because when I tried TFA a couple years ago, they tasted chemically to me. I've heard that CAP is better for people that get a chemically vibe from other flavor brands.
I also haven't had a good history with cream and pastry e-liquids, as they all tend to taste bad / burnt to me. Historically, I've stuck with mint and fruit flavors when i bought premade e-liquid.
Capella mango is best around 4% imo. I've just been working on a 'candied mango' flavor and 3% was too low. Got mute pretty quick. Currently testing @ 4% and it's better so far.
But as a rule of thumb, FA and CAP are going to be like 50% less than TFA on amount used. But that's comparing to TFA recipes with 8-12% flavors.
IIRC Capella recommends 3% for their flavors.
Bonus:
A straight Mango flavor I've been digging below:
4% Mango CAP
1% Rainbow Candy FW
0.5% Super Sweet CAP
0.5% Sour (any)
Edit: I will add.. don't waste your time with any recipe with TFA Mango. It is by far the worst mango available. And I like and have been using TFA for like 8 years. They're great.. but their mango is like dirty feet. So bad.
That recipe looks Hella old and not worth to mix up. Also why only use TFA or only cap flavors?
I’m curious how you can tell that recipe looks old. Is it the percentages? The proportions? The flavors used?
Tried TFA flavors a copule of years ago and got some funky chemically taste. I heard CAP doesn't have that issue.
I'm mainly wanting to do a mango flavor with other berry undertones. That recipe was in one of the mango threads. I was going to use it as a base for tinkering, but later read, that TFA flavors are usually mixed in 1-2% amounts and CAP is generally mixed in 5% amounts.
I also can't do cream or pastry flavors, they don't go well with my taste buds, so its historically been mint and fruits for me... Mainly mint.
On the % I think you might be confusing TFA with other brands. Usually TFA and CAP are in the 5% region. Brands closer to the 2% mark are WF (Wonder Flavours), FLV (Flavorah) and FA (Flavour Art).
LB (Liquid Barn) and CNV (Chemnovatic) are usually around 5%. Both of those two usually recommend percentages for their flavours but I'd stay towards the lower end of their recommendations to start with.
You can get off notes with any brand, they all have good and bad flavours. E.g., TFA Waffle tastes like arse, TFA Honey smells like rotting flesh, but then TFA Sweet Cream smells like feet but tastes smooth and creamy when you use it and the feet smell goes away. TFA have a lot of good flavours, but yeah they all have bad ones.
Flavor brands aren't really 1 on 1 interchangeable like that. You could try using all Cap flavorings instead of TFA but it wouldn't be anything similar to the original recipe.
You're just going to have to experiment and see what percentages suit you. Generally if something tastes "chemically" it means you've probably used too much.
If you are using an old recipe you have to cut the %s back. Modern vape gear transmits flavors better so you don't need to use as much unless you are mixing for a pod device.
Not OP, but could you give me a basic percentage range for pod devices vs RDTA/RTA devices? I still use refillable pods for convenience and stealth, but tend to love the flavors I get on my rebuildables.
For reference, pod is 1.4 ohms and my rebuildables are usually 1.0-1.3 ohms and I use nic salts.
Generally you can keep the same percentages just try to not use too many layers.
Just sub it. Use the averages on ATF, it’s DIY. Yours just might end up even better
>ATF
If that is a website, could you PM me a link?
search flavor and the average usage percentage is listed. You may want to play with these but they are a decent starting point.