I want to make a 100% VG Menthol juice, but every resource has it suspended in some ratio of PG or says the same needs to be done for crystals. I have a PG sensitivity. Is there anyway to get 100% VG Menthol to work?
How much menthol do you actually need? Put 1.5% menthol in a mixing calculator, mix max VG, use nic in VG. In a 120ml bottle that’s not even 2ml menthol. That’s over 118ml all VG.
Are you sure it’s actually menthol you’re looking for? Maybe you’re just looking for ice, like WS-23. You can use WS-23 at 0.25% and it will freeze your liquid cold
I'm looking to make a 100% VG liquid that's only flavoring is "iced." Would this WS-23 work, and what is it?
Edit: I'm finding it with a PG base only so far.
Yeah, WS-23 is a flavorless coolant/additive. It’s the strongest of its kind. Menthol is a flavor, it just happens to be cold. It’s not as cold as WS-23. If you do WS-23 you should also look in to FA Polar Blast and use them together. You can use them equally, start low like 0.25% WS-23 and 0.25% Polar Blast. You can always add more if you don’t think it’s cold enough. Without measuring that’s like two drops per 15ml. If you use both then that would be one drop of each per 15ml
Ok. I went ahead and pulled the trigger. I'm going to be making in 120ml batches, so I'd only need 1ml to get to 1%, which with a 30% WS-23 solution would be 99.42% VG. That's close enough to 100% that it hopefully won't be a problem. I'll go the menthols crystals and PGA route if it causes problems. Cheers! I greatly appreciate the help. 🙏
Ok. I've dug really deep down the research rabbit hole and found that you can make a solution with crystals and Everclear (PGA?) for those who need 100% VG. Does anyone have experience with this? And should the solution still be a 10% like typically recommended with making a PG solution?
How sensitive is your PG sensitivity?
I manage ok with 80/20, anything lower will close my throat up after less than a day. However nic salts at 50/50 are fine as long as I don't vape the whole day, it's not just the ratio, it is the overall amount of PG intake for a given day.
If you can do 5% PG then I can share some great recipes, with distilled water at 1% you can easily thin out juice to be fairly liquid for an RTA.
Same as you except 80/20 still leaves me with a sore throat and tight chest some days.
You're kinda lucky. Mine starts off with a cough, then it becomes like a hayfever attack, with my skin getting a rash, the areas affected are usually my lower arms, and face, and the normal places - in my nose, and my ears. Then that little thing that closes your lungs when you swallow - that gets inflamed completely, and randomly just closes, for about 60 seconds a time. Luckily I've been vaping 6 plus years, so I can hold my breath that long.
Oh, I didn't see the rest. Hit me with them recipes!
The Real Milk and Honey -by Hashslingingslashur
https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/6hft40/recipe_time_a_steeper_but_a_keeper_the_real_milk/
8.22% flavour
I really love this one, you can go flat out with max VG on this. It does go dark if you steep too long.
Boss Reserve Clone by Cuttwood -by FolkArt
https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/76822
4.5% flavour
Another great recipe with minimum flavour. The AP is strong in the beginning, but ride it out, the banana cream comes through strong
Andre's Mate (Bowden's Mate clone) -by Andre
https://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/1081830/Andre%27s%20Mate%20%28Bowden%27s%20Mate%20clone%29
7.75% flavour
Very much like Cuprian from EnyaWreklaw, though I prefer Andre's one a lot more. It doesn't go black immediately like Cuprian does. Excellent mint chocolate ice cream with the cooling.
A Purplish Choke -by Mahavoid
https://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/1593951/A%20Purplish%20Choke
9.5% flavour
This is the recipe that made me not quit DIY. Everything else I ever made landed in the drain. Only after making this I kept on trying.
So from the above - minimum falvours, you can end up making them all 90/10, add your 1% distilled water. Steep about 2 weeks. I can't really pick a favourite out of any of them.