I know we're better off than most, but this country really sucks ass
I pray that this BS will be overturned in the near future. I quit smoking in 2011 with vaping...even tried the gum..RX (both of them) I just bought a new Deco mod (don't judge) I guess I have to figure out how to do my own coils and stuff...I'm not to old to learn but thanks my betters in government
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Just some clarification, they aren't going out of business, just closing their retail site
Fuck River Supply! I don't care what kind of sale they are having. After all that bullshit with selling bad nic recently, they don't deserve to have any of our business.
Need more info on this just bought 1 liter last month from them haven't cracked it open as I am still working on my last batch
A lot of ppl got bad batch of nic from them pretty most cheap all of march and April. There's were dozens and dozens of posts across multiple subs. River supply sent replacements, but many said those were bad too and ended up getting refunded. From what I remember, issues were anywhere from bad taste to bad smell and even bad color.
Ordered from them since 2016 😥 just got one in now
Where's a good place for PG/VG now?
Whelp, I just spent 40 minutes building a cart and it just refreshed and cleared everything, lol.
Edit: It seems if even one item you added to your cart goes out of stock, then it clears the entire cart.
Yeah that happened to me like 3x in a row, it was super frustrating. I was finally able to order but minus like 8 or so flavors I wanted. It's definitely worth it to spend $50 too cuz my cart was $33 and it went up to $53 with shipping so I figured I might as well spend the $50 for free shipping
Just put an order in, good stuff is going fast. I tried to check out 4 times, each time a popular 2 oz disappeared and I had to update with multiple 15mls.
Same here, it kept deleting my cart too. Like I would get to the cart and if I tried to remove or increase the quantity of anything it would just delete my entire cart. That happened 3x and in that time there were like 5 flavors I wanted that went out of stock. Then when I could finally get to checkout it would tell me 2-4 more things were out so I'd go back to to add some other items to get it back up to $50 and more stuff would go out of stock lol. I finally was able to check out but minus 8-10 flavors I wanted.
:( I just saw, any idea why? I know they lost their nicotine, but seems like they would still be getting a ton of sales
That stuff disappeared lol. Had a cart but i didnt checkout fast enough
No it has a problem with deleting carts. If you had a bunch of items and then your cart was empty all of a sudden that doesn't mean they're out of what you wanted. It deleted my cart like 3x and I was finally able to check out after I messaged them on chat and said it kept deleting my cart.
Is it possible to find NR or PUR flavors anywhere else? I’m specifically asking about NR flavors as their pineapple sherbet has been sold out for weeks (outside of 500ml) and I need to know if it’s possible to find this flavor anywhere else before I pull the trigger on more flavoring than I’ll ever need from a flavor I’ve never tried lol
ask River if they're going to sell their flavors elsewhere, i doubt it :( however if enough of us email BCF to stock PUR it could happen!!
Man I just really want some of that NR pineapple sherbet but I can’t justify buying 500ml of it lolol I’ve never even tried it!
Tried to buy whatever was left and then the shipping cost doubled my order. No thanks. That’s why River is going out of business.
But it's free if you spend $50. That's what I did. Makes sense to get em now since River is the lowest price to begin with and then with 50% off they're a steal. If you need flavors in the next year or so then you might as well get some now since they're so inexpensive.
Well shit. Any recommendations on what places to pick up flavors from now?
Sold out of vg/pg too. Did grab several flavors.
i just ordered a bunch of random stuff. initially, i was ordering according to a few recipes, but i got to the end of the order and stuff had already sold out, so i had to delete those items and add stuff for the free shipping.. i had to do this 3 times because stuff kept selling out. insanity.
Yup, same thing happened to me lol. My cart deleted itself 3 times before I was finally able to check out. And then when I got to checkout it told me there were more flavors out of stock so I had to go back and add some more for free shipping and then more went out of stock in that time lol. So I had to redo my entire cart 3x and then had to leave checkout twice to add more stuff to get free shipping lol. It was incredibly frustrating but I'm glad I eventually got my order thru and will finally get to try cactus and rhubarb flavors lol. After this order I now have 92 flavors and 90% of them are only 15ml since I just started mixing and have no idea what flavors I like or are the best yet. I basically just ordered the top 60 flavors that were in my profile and then another 30 that just sounded good to me or were in recipes I want to try. I hope I made good calls.
The only things I got more than 15ml of were van bean IC, CC graham crust, strawberry ripe, strawberry juicy, FW hazelnut, vb gelato, sugar cookie, bav cream, swt cream, van swirl, ny chzcake v1, fuji apple, LA lemonade, berry cereal, cinnamon danish swirl, crm chz icing, graham cracker clear, lucky leprechaun cereal, marshmallow and forest fruit. I hope those were all good choices. If anyone has any advice about those flavors, like what they mix well with, it would be greatly appreciated.
have you tried elr? it's a pretty useful website. basically you add all your flavors and then click "what can i make" and it shows all the recipes people have made. if you allow flavors you don't have, it is still useful because you can experiment by substituting flavors
Be quick if you're going to order anything because everything is going out of stock like lightning. I had to add 40+ items to my cart 3x because it kept deleting my cart and then when I was finally able to get to checkout it would tell me 3 or 4 things were out of stock. So then I'd go back and try to get my cart up to $50 again and by the time I got to checkout a second time there were more things out of stock lol. So if you're going to order I would recommend doing it ASAP.
TL;DR - order ASAP because they're running out of stock VERY quickly
Should we expect all DIY supplies to not be able to be sold anymore? I thought flavorings weren’t touched from the ban (just moved back to the states and moved back to this fucking mess)
Its likely due to a multitude of factors for river. Refunds over their terrible batches of nicotine, shipping costs, possible issues with PUR flavors (they are used for Blu flavors), loss of nicotine revenue among the diy community. Who knows really.
Bull City is safe. They arent going anywhere. Neither is Gremberry.
i love river so much. i've never ever liked their nicotine, but they were always my go to for flavors (not the best selection but good enough plus 15ml > 10ml bottles), plastic bottles + pg/vg! their CS was amazing & shipping to me only took 1-2 days max. i'm really going to miss them.
i can't help but wonder if all the bad nic they had to refund/ reship recently put them over the edge sooner than later.
Well people certainly weren't treating them very nicely or saying good things about them during that and they were working their butts off to supply all of us. And now they are gone. Mob mentality. And yet again "GO buy NOW" and then saying oh wow things are selling out fast...
I know, that was a huge bummer to see. I am of the opinion that River didn't pull some shady shit on us with the bad nic. Others don't have to agree tho... it's not like any of our opinions matter now that they're gone to the public lol. I will definitely miss them </3
Yeah I'm seriously bummed by this. I had already decided they were going to be my go to place and it kind of seems their isn't a lot else in terms of really good prices on nic, vg/pg, flavorings and supplies, they even started carrying CBD flower and I wanted to try it. When I made my first diy order recently the majority was from river and some flavorings from BCF. And river even messed up my order in so many ways and so many times in a row it was absurd and took like 2 months to get everything but I was super polite the whole time and let them know it wasn't their fault and understood how flooded they were with orders and trying to figure out all the changes and then on top of it all the mistakes from having to fill so many orders slowing things down more but I knew it had to be the timing with how many people recommended them. And I am very happy with what I got from them, very clean and good tasting. I just hope it isn't a nightmare to find diy supplies after this. Anyway, thanks for responding! You were probably like... "Who is this? And why is he complaining to me?" Haha
Or they were already over the edge and sold bad nic, just saying......
I'm of the opinion that it was a poorly handled accident compounded by the ban panic buying. River takes a lot of pride in treating their customers well. I've never liked their nic, but loved them as a company, they were my go to for everything but nic. I'll miss them.
It was saddening news when I got that email. They were the only place that I ever bought flavors and PG and VG from. Since I don't vape much the flavors I do have along with my gallon VG that I bought earlier last year I should be set for some years.
But it sucks because whenever I read about a recipe I wanted to try I would go order the flavors if needed and then I could make that recipe, now if I see a recipe and don't have the flavors I might substitute or look at a different recipe.
NOOOOOOOOO THIS IS AWFUL WTF. Does anyone know where people will be able to buy salts going forward? This is straight up awful news.
They ship from China IIRC, so you're risking customs but TBH the risk is fairly low. Nicotine's not a prohibited substance - worst thing that I think could happen is that it's confiscated.
Interesting!!! This is good info. Seems a little sketch ordering nic made in China.... I would use it as a last resort so good to have in my back pocket.
Luckily I just ordered a liter of salts from carolina and 2 liters of freebase from MFS so hopefully that lasts me until US vendors figure out a way to sell to retail customers again. This is complete shit, I thought we had longer.
Also hoping that the freebase isn't completely disgusting to me after years of exclusively vaping salts....
most of the nicotine in the world comes from India, China or Brazil, even your nic from MFS. all the US companies do is dilute whatever pure nicotine they get, which most likely doesn't come from the US (unless you order from Carolina Xtracts). if anyone used US grown tobacco, they'd say so. HiLiq has lots of pretty great reviews worldwide. A lot of the medicine, supplements, other chemicals around the world are also made with Chinese (or Indian) sourced compounds, among tons of other everyday items you definitely use.