A few people have noticed issues with our recent river orders. Please check your nic for issues ASAP.
Ouch... talk about kicking someone when there down and its not like they will reship a order anymore.
The mail ban provides exceptions for replacing faulty products, warranty claims, etc. Now, I think there's a limit on how much you can use that maybe, but you shouldn't be completely screwed if you got bad product I think! Now, whether the vendor wants to do it, has really explored the law etc, who knows hah.
Edit: it's worth noting I see no evidence still that the mail ban actually covers nicotine as it would not qualify as an ENDS product. While PACT greatly expands on the complexity of selling nic, explaining why some vendors are converting to B2B, the mail ban portion only covers ENDS products (explaining why others, like CXtracts, has stated they will continue to sell to consumers).
That'd be a great way to get around it. Put a lifetime warranty on the bottle... And then when it's "broken"... Lol out of juice .. you contact them and they send you a "fixed" bottle... Just pay the shipping... Which just happens to be the normal price for nic... Sigh. If only
just curious... I buy from CXtracts - but I've not seen any statement from them that they will continue to ship nicotine. Where can I get some info on that? - it would certainly take some of the stress off knowing at least one company will continue to ship nicotine.
I just threw mine in the freezer when I got it, should probably check it out
what are the batch numbers?
Edit to add: I just double checked my gallon I got from them a couple weeks ago - 100mg in PG. All good, no issues - Batch 03022021-03-PG
Can confirm, got my 2 liters of 100mg/ml yesterday, just mixed up a little no flavoring 6mg and tried it 100% mushrooms. Smells stronger than it tastes, but undeniably there.
What was your batch number?
Looks like these are 03232021-01 PG
Mushrooms?
I placed an order on the 20th, confirmed email and card charged- haven't heard a peep from them since. Kinda nervewracking ngl.
Me too. I purchased on the 17th and it’s not even shipped yet.
Is there a specific lot number? Or specific mg/ml level? I just got an order I haven’t opened yet and have another on the way. I need to decant them so I can check when I do.
Hey! So we don’t know. Some have had the issues with salts and freebase. We can’t figure it out.
FWIW my batch number is: 011121-03PG I just went and checked it and while its a bit darker and did have a very slight odor that I thought might indicate an issue I just made a tester and it seems to be fine.
Worth noting I have never ordered nic from them before this(used e-liq for a long time) and while its different in color and scent than what I am used to it seems to vape just fine.
I do have another coming that I ordered on the 25th so we'll see what the batch # is on that one and how it fairs.
Curious is anyone with my batch number has reported issues.
I usually order 100mg nic salt from them, and it has a slight brown tinge to it. My 250mg jugs arrived today, noticeably darker than the 100mg I usually order. No bad smell, but a bit nervous about the darker color.
Edit: Picture comparing a half empty jug I still have from November and the new jugs that arrived.
Would that not be because it’s 250mg though? Idk personally just wondering if that’s why.
TRY it!! Color has absolutely no correlation to taste. 250mg nic has 2.5x the nicotine, meaning it can turn color quicker but not necessarily taste. Once you get it into the freezer it should stop darkening up. Definitely make an unflavored mix before even bothering to contact them tho
Great, the 250 I got 2 weeks ago was clear. Getting 3 more liters on Tuesday and now I’m getting a little nervous.you should test it and report back!
Is there some sort of common technique to test the nicotine other than sight, smell, batch test?
I ordered mine as soon as the words vape ban came to fruition. It’s been in the freezer, untouched for a couple months. I prob won’t get to opening any of it for another 2 years, as that’s the supply I had prior. Hope all is well.
Exp 01/04/2022 batch 01052021-04-VG
I have two liters of the 03232021-01pg and this is the first time I have ever got nicotine or tested it. I do, however, taste a diff taste when I vape it. Does kind of taste mushrooms or earthy type taste with a bit of sweetness at 70/30! If this can’t be corrected, will this ruin the juice if we add flavor? Has anyone tried or do you think this is not vapeable?
What kind of issues?
Mushroom smell or oxidation or both.
Ok I’ll look out for it because it was shipped and should be here Wednesday
Don't be surprised if it's a little oxidized, sitting in a warm post office/ups warehouse or truck for a week or more, just be thankful you're getting yours at all. It's the last you'll ever get home delivered.
I'm one of the people who was impacted by this. It was not oxidation. Mine smelled okay even. but the taste was ...like mushrooms.
River customer service was excellent about this and took care of me, but this was in no way oxidation.
It will not hurt anyone for them to test their nic before putting it into long term storage.
I also got bad nic the taste reminds me of smoking weed to be honest I'm vaping the 30 ml I had mixed and will dump the rest. I'd guess it's a bad batch and not from oxidation
> but the taste was ...like mushrooms.
Okay, this may sound stupid but... what do mushrooms taste/smell like?
I don't eat mushrooms and I don't think I've ever smelled them. The extent of my cooking with them is opening a can, draining it and chucking the contents into the pan if I'm making chicken marsala or something but I don't huff the can LOL
My last order isn't here yet.. Guess we will see
Same for me but I don't have any nic coming.
I was just referring to my nic order.. I actually have two, but only one is for sure getting shipped.. The other one ( from nude) might not ship out before they stop shipping.. And I have a couple other orders otw of hardware
I was worried about this happening. The liter of 250mg I got a couple weeks ago was almost clear and odorless/tasteless. I have 3 more liters arriving Tuesday. I’ll Definitely be checking/ testing it out ASAP.
How exactly should we test it? Mix to 6mg with just vg? Or pg?
Got some a week ago, slight smell to it. Dno wtf that smell is, sort of peanuty, faded out as I was separating it into glass.
Tested it before I did that of course, could only really taste the VG/PG which is sort of slightly bittersweet but otherwise tasteless and nicotine was clear.
I mean no one is perfect. Expensive ass Carolina is just as likely to be oxidized as anything else. End of day it's all about if the vendor will make it right and River will if they can.
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They haven’t even shipped mine yet. I assume they got a lot of orders. I’ve never ordered nic before though. I haven’t even ordered vg and pg yet. Is there another way besides mixing a test batch to check if it’s any good?
Mixing up a small 5/10ml tester is the only way to tell. Color alone isn't always an indicator. Ideally you want colorless, odorless, and tasteless.
Damn I just got 3 liters from them on the 26th. Haven't checked them yet. I will check them out and report back with results and batch numbers.
My shipment is due to arrive this week. If I check it and it's bad, what do I do? Do I send it back to Nic River? Will they be able to replace with the new ban in place?
Thanks for the heads up on this, awaiting another liter of 100mg pg base that I don't expect to see for awhile due to when I placed the order. Will be checking back to this post when I do. I was just gonna pop it in the freezer unopened as I won't need it for awhile as have more...
Are we checking for odor, or should we be using test kits?
Make a small 5 to 10ml flavorless test batch at your preferred nic strength and pg/vg ratio. If it tastes fine your good. If it tastes really harsh or like mushrooms it's bad.
Thank you for the reply! Much appreciated.
Mine is good, just taste-tested. Just got it a few days ago.
Hey so this might be stupid but I actually placed a big order for nicotine from them. It was supposed to be here yesterday but my UPS shipping facility is closed on Saturdays. So it'll be here tomorrow. I just opened my last bottle of nic I ordered from them and it smelled off. Had a yellowish color. I know nic could go bad but I heard it had a peppery taste. After mixing a bottle of juice with it I think it might be bad. Is the only way to test is to mix a flavorless base? Am I looking for anything? I've never mixed a flavorless base before.
Use a calculator and mix a flavorless base at your preferred nic strength and vg/pg ratio like 3mg 70/30. Then vape it like usual. If it tastes fine your good to go. If it's harsh n peppery or tastes like mushrooms it's a bad batch.
Thank you very much! I'll do that with all the nic I have monday. I currently have 500mls of 100mg PG(This one smells off), 2 bottles of salt nic at 100mg. I have another salt and 2 bottles of VG nic coming in. If it's peppery does that mean it's unsafe to vape or just not good flavor wise?
Placed order on 3/19. Got an email Friday that it shipped, but ups tracking only says that is ready to ship. Don't know if that means that my package is still sitting in there wharehouse oxidizing out of the freezer until ups picks it up Monday. I hope that they would only add the nicotine right before it leaves there wharehouse, but who knows.
I also have some PG 100mg coming my way. Its ready to be picked up but should see it move tomorrow. I will also post as soon as I receive it with batch # and testing of the nic. Planning to decant and throw in the freezer, so will know as soon as I get it.
Ok, so my order was picked up and had started shipping. It arrived in Hodgkins IL yesterday (March 31st), UPS has now marked it as return to sender (April 1st) for some reason and it is on its way back to Nic River. It made it half way to me and was then marked and returning to sender. Unclear as to reason, could be damage or could be due to new restrictions, will update with information as soon as I hear something.
Batch 03042021-01 PG smells “earthy” like others have said like mushrooms, taste a little harsh and has a slight taste in tester, but smell is much more noticeable in bottle and rda
My batch is close 03162021-01 PG and it's the same thing. Taste gets worse the higher you up the nic. My 9mg batch for mtl was straight up musty. Cotton smelled like a faint can of mushrooms. Something is definitely off with their nic, sadly it's really clear too.
Just opened my liter and took a big whiff and it smells like cold dirt ( was in the freezer since ) early this month
Batch 03012021-01-pg
I noticed this before even seeing this thread too. I checked older bottles I haven't oepened from last month and neither of them had the issue. Something aint right
Great, I have same batch number as you, haven’t checked it yet. Now I’m scared 😂
It wasn't like WHOA but soon as I opened it and a bit after, when i pyt my nose to the bottle and took a big sniff, i got that cold dirt smell to it. I dunno what mushrooms smell like
Batch 03162021-01 PG (100mg) here (Among the suspected bad batches) and I think its just fine. Clear in color, not much smell and at 9mg strength just a light, almost faint taste that reminds me of what an ashtray smells like. Not forward or objectionable to me at all. I tried 6mg first and it was, as expected a little bit lighter in taste than at 9mg. 6mg is max I use.
Now get this, I directly compared it with some Nudenic 100mg PG I received just about the same time and they are pretty much identical in flavor at 9mg strength. The same very light ashtray taste.
So, I'm not saying anyone here is exaggerating or doesn't have an issue but maybe some feedback can be attributed to folks never tasting nicotine without any flavors?
Yeah I'm wondering. I've got some 03162021-01, little musty, but didn't notice anything very offputting in the test batch.
However, I also have some 250 03112021-03, and I'm just not sure. It's not horrible tasting, but it almost tastes like it's flavored with a tobacco.
>Demo
I wouldn't doubt that what I taste as a very light ashtray-like taste may be considered by others as tobacco, earthy or mushroomy. I am no longer concerned about my River nic, especially after comparing directly against Nudenic and finding the taste almost exactly the same. My feeling is that it's probably just the way nicotine tastes. If it's of any interest, I mixed my test samples at 50%VG/50%PG. I have been vaping for about 9 years now.
Just received another purchase of nic from River today. I had placed two separate orders, one before the sale and one after. This round is 2 liters of Batch 03232021-01 PG. I'm happy to say both are crystal clear and no off flavors. Time to decant amd freeze them.
Night and day from first order of Batch 03162021-01 PG that tasted really musty and ?shroomy? . Hopefully the replacement is as good as this round.
Has anyone has any recent issues with their VG 250 nic? Because I don’t wana start the clock on my only bottle of nic if I don’t have to
I threw my 500ml bottle in the freezer while I was waiting on my bottles to arrive. I opened it and it smells like dirt and a bit of fish. The color isn't bad but the smell is horrible. They said they can't reship so they refunded me the cost of the nic only. I'm still out the shipping. Not happy. 100mg VG batch # 03112021-02-VG
edit: They refunded the shipping too. Stellar cs
Received my supplies in the mail today, for some reason the VG has been sent back to NR but they are going to reship that. Got my Nic today and its crystal clear and only has that faint sweet smell. Happy that my nic is good, but it seems like I was one of the few.
Batch 03102021-02-PG 100mg