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5 reasons your DIY E-liquid may be a failure.
submitted over 4 years ago by Saintz-WD
  1. You have not Single Flavor Tested: Getting familiar with your flavor concentrates is the single biggest step you can take towards being able to quickly develop successful and appealing recipes. Like any other craft, you most become familiar with what you are working with. Your entire DIYing experience is going to be much more successful if you understand and appreciate the concentrates you are going to be using.

  2. Accurate Measurements ~ Equals Consistency Whether by Weight, which requires using a precision set of digital scales that can measure down to .01 grams. This choice requires little effort, just start dripping your desired flavor concentrate into a bottle until you have reached your desired percentage in grams.

Or by Volume: Which will require blunt nose syringes on hand. Using separate syringes for each flavor is of great benefit when filling up the bottles. You will be using milliliters as your percentage of measurement.

Dumping or measuring flavor concentrates by drops is a mixture for disaster. You want to have a consistent quality product. One that provides a quality E-liquid now and in the future. Eyeballing, Guessing and Drops can not provide the same level of quality. You want a reliable and accurate way of measuring your ingredients.

  1. You are trying to Clone Commercial E-Juice: Everyone wants to recreate some of their favorite e-liquids from various vendors and merchants. You would think, these are the best e-liquid recipes to follow if you are looking to Clone one of your favorite e-liquids. In truth, most clone recipes fall way short of the mark. What I have found is most commercial juice is over-flavored and over-sweetened.  This is one of the reasons I started mixing my own e-liquids, I couldn’t find E-liquids I wanted to vape that didn’t taste off, weird, or just too sweet. I also didn’t enjoy my coils being so gunked up (back in those days of 510 bridged atomizers that were $20 a 5 pack) making me change my coil every day, sometimes twice a day, it got expensive fast.  But even with today’s equipment, if I’m using premade coils or making my own coils, I am not having to rewick cotton once a day. In fact, many times I go as long as a month before rewicking by builds. I stopped trying to replicate other Mixers recipes. And started to mix to suite my own palate. I mix using cleaner flavors that are stronger and aren’t presweetened with sugars or other things. I truly believe when you start trying to create your own E-liquids, versus trying to recreate another Mixer/Companies E-liquids. That is when you begin to really enjoy the hobby and the overall experience of DIYing. 

  2. Ingredient Substitutions Going off-recipe is a fun and creative part of the DIYing process, for sure. But it also requires a little more due diligence on our part to understand how the additional or substitute ingredient will affect the recipe. Remember cutting out one flavor concentrate then substituting it with another will give you a very different result than the recipe author intended. Not a bad thing. No, as long as you have a good working knowledge of how the substitute ingredient will affect the mix. Refer to Number 1# above.

  3. Using Too Much Flavoring Kills Your Recipe So how does over-flavoring kill your recipes? If you enjoy complex style recipes you will end up with a muddled mess if you’ve over-flavored. It may be muted. It may be harsh.  Even simple recipes that are over-flavored can suffer from these problems.  Over-flavoring is one of the most common reasons for harshness, next to bad batches of peppery harsh nicotine. The other unpleasant side effect of over-flavoring is that it can cause you to go flavor blind (not able to taste a flavor anymore) far faster than if you had not exposed yourself to massive amounts of that flavoring aroma. Always start at a lower percentage in mix, check recommendations on percentages from the manufacturer and other experienced mixers & become familiar with how your flavor concentrates work together. Many times, less is more.

*copied from a  ELR source not written by me.

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by QueenBuzyBeeover 4 years ago

Hi. It would be nice if you could add the author‘s name so that due credit can go to him. Thank you.

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by Saintz-WDover 4 years ago

It was posted by Mark Turner, however I do not know if he is the author.

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by mearseover 4 years ago

Awesome info. I am missing SFT and need to start that at some point. I'm mainly making other folks recipes and there are a ton of good ones. Many (all?) are from the guys and gals on reddit - thanks for that! Us noobs could never do without this forum and the Discord of course.

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by SakiYaki12over 4 years ago

I'm new to mixing and this info has helped to explain a lot of things. Thanks to you (and Mark Turner) for sharing!

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by soilstackover 4 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Always good to get a reminder 👍

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by Demo_Betaover 4 years ago

Mine are a failure as I just realized half of my favorite flavors are full of sucralose/fructose/peppermint oil.

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by Cake_then_cakeover 4 years ago

I’m about to begin my first attempt at DIY here shortly, I’ll keep all this in mind. I may be naive but I’m really hoping ‘follow the recipe exactly’ will get me to good juices lol

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by Worzel777over 4 years ago

The fun part for me is not following recipes but creating my own. I pick the flavours I like then put 2 together. Start simple then build on them. My first juice was strawberry and raspberry turned out nice. Later added some cactus and got even better. I'm going to try it with a touch of menthol next just to add some coolness. Lots of fun

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by lisakent17over 4 years ago

Oh now I can relate that why I have been a failure in making my own e liquid. I have been trying to make my own DIY liquid but then I was facing so many issues. I think there are some secrets behind E-liquid manufacturing. I thought 80 to 90% of the e-liquid is made of 2 elements: vegetable glycerin (VG) and propylene glycol (PG) and knowing this is enough, but going through this information here seems like it is not so.

I do understand now that measuring flavor concentration by drops is not the right thing and that is why I have been facing some difficulties. An accurate method of measuring the ingredients explained here is good to adopt. I was also looking to make that perfect e juice that I use, but now I understand it is not possible to do so. Now, I will also mix the e liquids in a way that it suits my palette. I was using a lot of flavour also which is a big mistake. Well, I will correct these things and start again because my first try was really a disaster. It was something worse I created. Now, keeping my fingers crossed will do as per what is shared here. Thank you so much.

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by Marikc1over 4 years agoMixologist
  1. You don't use 8000% sweetener in your liquid like most of those shelf "premium" bottles.

Also, come on. This is not Michelin star cooking. Saying someone has to get a recipe down to .01 grams accuracy is asinine and not even close to true.

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by Saintz-WDover 4 years ago

That is referring to the type of scale not flavor. The 0.01 comes into play when using weight in grams instead of volume in ml when calculating a recipe. For example, if you look at a recipe on elr named Pinapple Whip you will see the amounts in grams. The sweetener is 0.10% which is 0.03 grams. This requires a scale that reads at a 0.01 scale.

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