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Mail Ban...Nicotine Affected?
submitted over 4 years ago by lsxtrucker

So I've been steady vaping for a few years doing DIY with a few 120ml bottles of CNT nic. I've noticed CNT isn't available anywhere.

Location: Florida, USA.

LNW has their nicotine in 100mg/ml

LB has Nicselect at 48mg/ml only.

Given these two limited choices. Are they both good nic? I vape (subohm single coil) @ 3mg.

Is this vape mail ban going to affect nicotine and my ability to buy squonk bottles too??

Please help bring me up to date on this.

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33 points
 
by TheGreatKingCyrusover 4 years ago

It's written so vaguely that they can crack down on whatever they want. I wouldn't bet on it being available, it's better to be safe than sorry. It's shitty times we live in when there are real problems facing the US but they are busy taking away the rights of it's citizens left and right. Free country my ass.

16 points
 
by DontPassTheEggNogover 4 years ago

"Those who trade Freedom for Security will lose both and deserve neither."

-Some old white man, who's probably cancelled by now.

8 points
 
by MsEmotions220over 4 years ago

Preach.

15 points
 
by vigg-o-ramaover 4 years ago

where in FL?

if you are in central FL, you could always do PICK UP orders at wizard labs.

10 points
 
by irritatedellipsesover 4 years ago

> wizard labs.

Hoooooooly crap. I had no idea this was a thing. I'm less than 30 minutes from there... I think I love you.

3 points
 
by Chjxrsover 4 years ago

what area of central florida? Im currently in orlando.

Edit: Nvm altamonte Springs, not to far from here

5 points
 
by vigg-o-ramaover 4 years ago

I've been picking up from them for about a decade now.. never had any issues. they are branded as a research chemical company so they may not be as affected as others, but still, if you are local - pick up is always SUPER fast (I have placed an order in the morning and gotten a call in the afternoon that my order is ready)

4 points
 
by lsxtruckerover 4 years ago

They're sales are going to SKYROCKET

1 points
 
by lsxtruckerover 4 years ago

So they'll be able to sell nic direct to consumer too eh?

1 points
 
by lsxtruckerover 4 years ago

Tampa one hour from WL. Now that's a good idea!!

9 points
 
by QueenBuzyBeeover 4 years ago

Yes. Nic is coming from Vape Shops so it‘ll be affected. LB already stated that they will stop selling to consumers at the end of March. Stock up now, it’s pretty much your last chance. Hardware and nic.

8 points
 
by H4l101over 4 years ago

People who can order in Canada will ship person to person in the USA and start a nice little black market for us USA customers. Dont worry 😁. It cant be stopped with gaining capital is involved in such a big market. Prohibition doesn't work idk why the USA thinks otherwise.

2 points
 
by lsxtruckerover 4 years ago

Yes maybe but then again finding these folks won't be easy as it probably would exist on dark web.

3 points
 
by munchidkover 4 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I have a feeling youll find em. You can still get mango juul pods from russia on reddit. And spores if you are into studing certain mushroom species ;) well get through together. But if you can stock up now. Just ordered from liquid barn. I was unaware my go to vapor tek shut down :(

2 points
 
by H4l101over 4 years ago

I have 20years worth and live in the USA alao am extremely experience on the Darkweb and normal web. You wont even need to access the darkweb for nicotine when the ban comes into effect. Itll be easier then you think to still get it person to person.

3 points
 
by josiscleisonover 4 years ago

I live on a country where the sale of anything vape related is illegal. There's multiple online vape stores and flavor vendors, they just keep a low profile and avoid google trackers (their marketing is basically through youtube and P2P).

Believe me, there will be A LOT of people making money selling shit on the black market in the USA. It wont be difficult to find at all.

6 points
 
by wolfpak31over 4 years ago

Order as much nic as you can and throw in freezer. For a couple hundred dollars you should be able to buy a solid 10-20 years worth depending on how much you vape. Hardware will not be a issue getting. There are vape shops and China.

5 points
 
by lsxtruckerover 4 years ago

This is crazy even as an avid diyer I'll probably end up back in the hands of big tobacco

12 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 4 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

Just stock up on nic.

5 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 4 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

Yes and Yes. It affects all vaping products

4 points
 
by Space_Raisinover 4 years ago

Big question is how this will affect Canadian sellers. Do they get their nic from the US?

1 points
 
by Plus_Cartoonist_1794over 4 years ago

Agree wonder how this is going to go down. They changed a law back in January so they can’t sell the shitty vapes in convenient stores

1 points
 
by Sergeant_Mover 4 years ago

As long as there is a demand, distributors will find a way.

3 points
 
by justmydumbluckover 4 years agoMissing One Flavor

I have about 10 years worth of LNW's 100mg/ml nic.it all arrived okay for me, but I have heard of a few people who got some dark and pungent stuff, so YMMV

3 points
 
by KingpinOfTheSlumover 4 years ago

Just look at it this way. The government BANNED and outlawed cocaine, heroin and meth but you can get it all day everyday if you want it. So don't panic. It's just that now we will have to get our vape stuff on the black market instead of nice and legal, and help small business'. Thats government for ya.

2 points
 
by MongoloidAuover 4 years ago

What country are you in?

2 points
 
by lsxtruckerover 4 years ago

USA

14 points
 
by StevenAKA117over 4 years ago

Your demise is upon you. Prepare to be buttf#ck by the local vape shops my son.

2 points
 
by MsEmotions220over 4 years ago

Buy it while you can!!!! 🥴🥴🥴

2 points
 
by LostRoninover 4 years ago

There shouldnt be a problem getting nicotine, but there exists the possibility there will be at some point going forward and there is a bit of panic buying going on.

LiquidBarn is a good example of a retailer whose entire identity is based around vaping. I would imagine their real problem exists in the fact that they advertise everything they sell for DIY vaping. Not only would LB be required to stop selling many of their products going forward but their entire site would need a complete overhaul and they would need to rebrand other products.

You have to understand the different freebase nicotine you can get once vaped are no different from each other. You're essentially spending more or less on the pedigree or history of the nicotine at the end of the day. CNT doesnt taste better or hit better or whatever than PurNic or whatever else. Ultimately, the vendor can make mistakes and your nicotine arrives oxidized. The nicotine itself doesnt play a part in if you get a good batch or not. Even the most expensive nicotine can arrive oxidized.

That doesnt mean you should buy the cheapest nicotine on the planet but that you shouldnt be so damn picky considering the current circumstances.

Also river supply is pissing me off, I've waited 6 days for them to send an order. I would assume a few vendors though are trying their best to fulfill orders.

2 points
 
by tizubyover 4 years ago

oof, 6 days?

I just ordered a gallon of 250mg and I'm going to be a sad panda if it doesn't get shipped out before there's nowhere left who will ship it.

1 points
 
by lsxtruckerover 4 years ago

How about coils? Will only spools of wire be available or will pre wrapped coils still be available from say AVS?

5 points
 
by TadnJessover 4 years ago

TemcoIndustrial is the cheapest supplier of resistance wire that I have found. Their shipping was pretty prompt also the last time I ordered from them.

1 points
 
by kuri_sanTouover 4 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Quality

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by lsxtruckerover 4 years ago

Can the 1L Nicotine River opague white bottle be placed in freezer sealed?

5 points
 
by Jd_ironlifeover 4 years ago

Put it in amber glass. Oxygen will permeate thru plastic.

2 points
 
by isuredolovemilkover 4 years ago

No, plastic is not going to store well at all because of the chemical composition and how porous it is. Check the DIY guide in the sidebar. Amber glass bottles with polycone caps. I just finished storing a bunch for the first time and it's pretty simple. I recommend asking in the new mixers help channel on discord for help picking.

1 points
 
by kuri_sanTouover 4 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

NicRiver says it can but I don’t recommend it. You will want to decant it into Boston Rounds with polycone caps and test it so if it’s bad the vendor can replace it.

1 points
 
by tizubyover 4 years ago

How does one go about testing it? Is there a link floating around that explains it a bit more?

I ordered a 250mg PG gallon which should, by my math, last me basically the rest of my life and want to make sure I store that bad boy properly. I did order some 32oz amber glass bottles, extra poly cone caps (reviews on the bottle said sometimes they ship without caps), and a pure argon wine preserver spray, so I think I'm all good on that front.

1 points
 
by kuri_sanTouover 4 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

You can mix 5ml of UnJuice and vape it. If it isn’t gross, then you have good nic. If it’s gross, tell them it’s gross

32 oz bottles are pretty large. I don’t know how much nicotine you go through, I would get at least a 2oz bottle with a dropper cap for your working bottle at your mixing station. Refill as it gets low and fill the bootle you decanted with argon again and put back in the freezer.

1 points
 
by Voidbloodshotover 4 years ago

Can you sti use fedex or ups?

1 points
 
by OutOfTheMistover 4 years ago

Does this affect packages sent through UPS or FedEx?

2 points
 
by iowajoshover 4 years ago

>YES

1 points
 
by Demo_Betaover 4 years ago

Personally I think hardware is going to be the bigger issue, though more offshore vendors may pop up. I expect the nicotine market to adjust and stabilize, we'll pay more but will probably be able to get it at chain tobacco stores.

1 points
 
by Smells_like_Childrenover 4 years agoMissing One Flavor

CNT is available at LNW (large quantity only) and at LB I just checked yesterday but I'm in Oregon so maybe that effects things?

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