As always, the purpose of this thread is to gather the community to explore a category of flavor and its many uses.
##⭐ This week's flavor is . . . Turkish Tobacco
Put on your thinking cap and try to answer these questions . . .
- First Order - Which flavors should someone buy on their first order?
- Warning! - Which flavors are Dumpster Fires?
- Hidden Gems - Are there any flavors lurking in the shadows that we should all know about?
- Substitution - Are there any flavors in this category that are interchangeable?
- Beginner Recipes - Which recipes should a beginner try first?
- Best Recipes - Which recipes are simply the best?
- Pairing - What other flavors work well with the FOTW?
- Versatility - Can this flavor be used for something other than it's taste? (ie add juiciness)
- Winning - Who is going to win the prize this week?
- Groans - Can the puns get any worse?
- Enjoyment - Are we having FUN yet?
Post your own recipes containing this week's Flavor of the Week, as the star or in a supporting role, with or without development notes. Talk about other people's recipes that use it. Share flavor notes. Compare and contrast different manufacturers' versions of the FOTW. Ask for help using a flavor in general or to achieve something specific, offer advice, brainstorm ideas, consider substitutions, suggest pairings... really anything at all as long as it's on topic.
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#####This week's prize is . . . The Tobacconist Assortment
Includes 10ml samples of these flavors:
Arabian Tobacco, Cavendish, Classic Cigarette, Commercial Cigarette, Connecticut Shade, Cured Tobacco, Kentucky Blend, Native Tobacco, Oriental Tobacco, Pucker Tobacco, Red Burley, Sweet & Smokey Tobacco, Sweet Cigarette, Tatanka Tobacco, Turkish Tobacco, Virginia Tobacco
###🔗 USEFUL LINKS
GENERAL INFORMATION
Turkish Tobacco on Wikipedia | Flavor Facts - Tobacco | Turkish Recipes on ATF
FLAVOR OF THE WEEK
Tobacco Additives | Aromatic Tobacco | NonAromatic Tobacco | American Tobacco | European Tobacco | Asian Tobacco
NOTED PODCASTS
Tobacco Additives | Aromatic Tobacco | NonAromatic Tobacco | American Tobacco | European Tobacco | Asian Tobacco
INFORMATION ARCHIVES
FOTW Listing | FOTW/Noted Spreadsheet | Flavor Facts
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🗓 COMING ATTRACTIONS
Here's a peek at what's on the schedule . . .
|DATE|FOTW|DATE|FOTW|DATE|FOTW|
|---:|:---|---:|:---|---:|:---|
|Mar09|Rhubarb|Jul13|Date|Nov16|French Vanilla|
|🍀 Mar16|⭐ FOTQ IV|Jul20|Fig|🦃 Nov23|??|
|Mar23|Mango|Jul27|Plum|Nov30|⭐ FOTQ VII|
|🐰 Mar30|Coconut|Aug03|Grapefruit|Dec07|🍂 ORIENTAL|
|Apr06|Cream Soda|Aug10|🐄 Butter|Dec14|🍫 Cocoa|
|Apr13|Bread|Aug17|Apricot|🎄 Dec21|Herbs|
|Apr20|Wood|Aug24|🍂 5's and 7's|🍾 Dec28|⭐ FOTY 2021|
|Apr27|Cardamom & Chai|Aug31|⭐ FOTQ VI|Jan04|??|
|May04|🐄 Vienna Cream|🏈 Sep07|Kiwi|Jan11|??|
|May11|🐄 Sweet Cream|Sep14|Cucumber|Jan18|??|
|May18|🐄 Vanilla Cream|Sep21|Black Licorice|Jan25|??|
|🎓 May25|🐄 Whipped Cream|Sep28|Passionfruit|Feb01|??|
|Jun01|⭐ FOTQ V|Oct05|Purple Grape|💗 Feb08|❓ Valentines|
|Jun08|🍂 BURLEY|Oct12|Cactus|Feb15|🍫 ChocoMania!|
|Jun15|Sugar|Oct19|👽 SOUR|Feb22|??|
|Jun22|Blood Orange|🎃 Oct26|🍫 Dark Chocolate|Mar01|⭐ FOTQ VIII|
|Jun29|Honey|Nov02|Maple|Mar08|🍂 TOBACCO TIME|
|🎇 Jul06|Frosting/Icing|Nov09|Smoothie|🍀 Mar15|❓ Green Things|
LEGEND
| ⭐ Best Of | 🍂 TOBACCO TIME | 🐄 Milk Man | 🍫 ChocoMania! | ❓ Suggested Flavors | ?? Not Scheduled |
####Q: How do flavors get put on the schedule?
####A: Requests and suggestions from people like YOU!
If there's something you'd like to see, just post a request in this thread. You can request both a specific flavor and where it lands on the calendar. Think of which flavors are "right" for the season. You can also request the next installment on one of the recurring series like "🍂 TOBACCO TIME". And you can help find good flavors for "❓ Suggested Flavors" spots on the Calendar.
I don’t even know what a Turkish Tobacco is. If you’re as confused as me, Turkish Tobacco from wikipedia 👇
Turkish tobacco, or Oriental tobacco, is a highly aromatic, small-leafed variety of tobacco which is sun-cured. Turkish tobacco plants usually have a greater number and smaller size leaves. These differences can be attributed to climate, soil, cultivation and treatment methods.
>Turkish tobacco, or Oriental tobacco, is a highly aromatic....
So, it's the same thing? Obviously Dave cheating here (since he excluded Oriental)!
I think French Vanillas could be a good future flavor of the week. Especially after the lively discussion on the vanilla ice cream yesterday I think it will be interesting and entertaining.
sadly, this week represents a missed pun opportunity on your behalf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doner_kebab. "This week's flavor is a one and Doner"
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An essential post by u/ChemicalBurnVictim: Battle of the Baccos: Turkish/Oriental
/u/odiedoodah is doing all the rest of the work for the FOTW posts now, if I could just hire you to write the titles, I would have next to nothing left to do. Whaddya say? I'll pay you the same salary I pay Odie.
Thanks for sharing the essential post! We've left Oriental out of Turkish because different names. Do you think we need to "fix" that by adding Oriental Tobacco to the schedule?
Probably should do an oriental. And pipe. And cigar. And flavored baccos: fruit, nut, coffee, mint, chocolate, etc.
maybe blends, cigs, pipes, Latakia, perique, etc too.
My SFT notes for FLV Turkish:
A lighter coloured tobacco with pretty bold spice notes. Maybe picking up clove and cardamom. I think there are others but can't specifically identify them. Note of hay and a little of what seems like dried orange peel. Very complex and distinctive. Would be a good as the star of the show in a mix. But could maybe also use it low for the spice notes.
Moderate throat hit for the first few draws, but then harshness lessens. Still a little tickley. When I went back to it after a few hours the moderate throat hit was back for the first few draws again. I like a bit of a throat hit with tobaccos so it wasn't unpleasant.
I only have 7 flavors for this week (FE Turkish, FLV Turkish, INW Turkish, TFA Turkish, HS Turkish, NV Turkish, and FW Ankara), so I'm trying to compensate by trying a bunch of recipes. Some of them have sat on my to-mix list for too long waiting for me to get around to them, others just looked really interesting to me. Did I miss an important recipe here?
Prapple Baco by Fear
Clovert Operative by Foment
Chem Twista Lime by ChemicalBurn Victim
Two Rivers Tabac by Bryan F
White Wolf by Slushy
Aroma Tobacco by NKS
The Van Custer by InsidiousBrew
Turkish Tobapple by Katumbas.
White Falcon, also by Slushy has a similar profile to White Wolf but has u/isuamadog and my semi favorite flavor LB WCP in it. Give it a try if you have holy vanilla. Sadly I never will taste it as is.
silk road by COB
edit: uses tfa turkish for that hint of leather beautifully
edit edit: im an idiot. that's tfa western
What sort of %s do you use TFA Western at? I just got it and it smells pretty good. Definitely can smell the leather.
0.25 for just a hint in a mix, if you can call it a hint.
1-2 solo DTL 3-6 solo mtl. If you like it, higher end. If you don’t, lower end. I’d start low to be safe.
I should add I unapologetically love it. So maybe even less if low end is too strong. I’m an outlier here.
Adding more to that list:
And a spiced tobacco (without any Turkish / Oriental concentrate):
Looking forward to this one. Having been to Turkey and experienced real Turkish tobacco a number of times, I'd love to find some flavours that hit that complex and aromatic spot. I've got a feeling the best way to do that will be by building one from scratch but let's see what the Noted team come up with.
I only have FLV Turkish Tobacco. Bought it a while ago for foment's excellent Clovert Operative, already mentioned in this thread somewhere. Apart from that recipe I haven't really used it often, I probably should SFT it first (but I am a lazy slacking bastard).
You need another use for that Turkish. I have something for you. I'm not 100% sure it's finished, but while the exact amounts might change, the ingredients are very unlikely to change: RY4 Custard NOW.
Oh this recipe looks good. I’m gonna give it a mix
I'm not saying is perfect or as perfect as it's gonna get in my hands (that's why it's not public yet), but I certainly enjoyed it and if it looks good to you, I think you will do. Also, steeping? Who has time for that. It just needs to sit overnight.
I have FLV Turkish but I haven't used it a ton yet, only tried it in a couple mixes. That said it's a fairly decent tobacco and seems to hold up well. It's not really like a true turkish tobacco to me, but more of a spiced tobacco.
I used to be quite the fan of TPA Turkish. I still think it holds up, but you have to keep it low. I mostly like it as an accent to other tobaccos, anywhere from .25-0.5%
I have never tried a real Turkish tobacco and the only Turkish tobacco flavor I have is FLV Turkish.
It’s a good spiced tobacco and I really enjoyed it in Layers: Turkish Oriental Tobacco .
I might pick up a few more after the noted show.
Never tried Turkish anything before. Can't wait to hear your thoughts this week. I really need to pick up some tobacco flavors. This is one area I really want to dive into. Only ones I've tried so far are Tfa western, Tfa ry4double, and Fa soho. Last two aren't really full on tobacco flavors though and western is mostly leather.
Sadly at over 750 flavors, the only tobacco is have are Mb's, tfa and Jf's ry4 doubles. I almost have as few of flvs flavorings as I do tobaccos. I dont have hardly any flv, and what I did have all had their tops breakoff because flvs bottle caps SUCKED when they 1st came out and I threw em away because they evaporated/oxidized. One of my favorite liquids is vaptasias tobacco royalty 2, the original was even better but I think they used one of Inw's flavors that got reformulated... I should start playing with tobaccos because there are some bangin ones out there waiting to be made.
I havent mixed with FLV Turkish yet, but it is in my stash. I got so many flavors in a short amount of time I'm still playing catch up in flavoring testing to use them in future recipes. I just wanna thank the team of Noted for all the knowledge that you provide to us community members. You guys go out of your way to do a lot of the dirty work. I'm a better mixer because of your show. Keep up the great work. I'll reply here once I get around to flavor testing Turkish Tobacco FLV beginning of the week.
I've tried TFA Turkish at 1.5%, it was pretty good! incredibly unique, strange, bold, in your face type of flavor; sweet yet bitter, hard to describe & I need to revisit again. iirc needed lots of boosting that i was too inexperienced to understand so it was shelved. trying it again & it seems to work well w other tobaccos at 0.75%
also tried INW Turkish & it's strange n sweet. not a bad flavor by any means, but not a very authentic tobacco imo. delicious & kinda creamy, according to old, mostly unhelpful notes of mine. will revisit.
What's that FOTW on Aug24? 5's and 7's?
It's kind of a silly category. But there are some tobacco flavors called 555 (SC 555, INW 555 Gold, FW 555, HiLiq 555). Not really enough for a whole FOTW. And there are some, but not many, with 7s in the name (FA 7 Leaves Ultimate, FW 7 Leaves, INW 7 Leaves, FE Mile Seven, HiLiq Mile Seven, SC Seven, SC Seven Stars). So this is just mashing them together. 5's and 7's. The "main" flavors, I think, that people will want to talk about, are INW 555 Gold and FA 7 Leaves Ultimate. At least, those are the ones you see used most frequently.
Want to help come up with some other odd, playful categories for FOTW?
Since I stopped smoking eight years ago. I have no urge to have tobacco flavors. I don't know what it is but I can't stand the way cigarettes smell now and I smoked for like twenty years. I'll still watch the show. I'm sure I'll pick up some information. Love the show, keep it up. Thanks.
I don't understand why new vapers stay away from tobacco flavors. Its like they think like an alcoholic that if they taste a tobacco vape their gonna run out and buy cigarettes. I gave up cigs about 8 years ago and I still love the taste of a good tobacco vape. I have about 12 tobacco flavors, mostly buy Inawera and Flavorah. Sadly no Turkish tobaccos but that might change. Fruity tobaccos and Custard tobaccos are my favorite.
I haven't ventured into any tobaccos yet . I'm actually kind intimidated by them I'm still stuggling to get completely off the stinkies and i see tobacco flavors and i just cant wrap my head around how I would use them without going for a ciggy tasting vape .
I’m really looking forward to getting into baccos! I always thought they were supposed to taste like actual tobacco smoke so I never gave them a chance. Finally did some asking on #tobacconists and learned that they taste like tobacco smells, which happens to be one of my favorite smells in the world!