Question about nic salt and bringing down it's strength

submitted over 4 years ago by ShitCoffee

I have 8 bottles of pacha mama that are 10ml@20mg salt, can I mix them down to like 10mg or 5mg by adding in some kind of liquid like unflavoured 0nic 50/50 Sorry if this is a ridiculous question

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7 points

by sadistic_tendenciesover 4 years ago

Sure but you'll be cutting the flavor in half or to a quarter.

1 points

by ShitCoffeeover 4 years ago

That's OK. Would I just use pg/vg 50/50 (500ml here costs $10) 10ml for half or 20ml for quarter strength?

Another couple of possibly stupid questions about mixing my own juice from scratch:

If I were to buy nic salt, would it come in a 50/50 pg/vg solution (or would I buy 100%pg and 100%vg seperatly)

and would I be able to source similar high quality flavours as are used by the popular brands and just make whichever strength I want.

I know to achieve the exact same flavor is probably impossible but let's say I just want basic flavours like strawberry or apple or watermelon, are these flavors easily available and are there any reputable flavor brands that I can buy online that are good for newbie diyers.

In Ireland 10ml of Pacha Mama costs $6 I use 10ml every 5 days. I've had maybe 5/6 other brands that I didn't like but apart from the salt+pg/vg+sucralose what else other than the flavours would make the difference in taste profiles if the different manufacturers?

5 points

by wombatred27over 4 years ago

You can buy premixed base solution with nic/vg/pg, some flavor concentrates, blend a bit of flavor into the solution base and make your own.

BUT it's more cost effective, in the long run, to purchase 100mg/ml nic in 100% vg or pg, some VG and PG, and concentrates and go from there.

Check out the side bar for websites where you can buy the supplies and the discord channel where you can gets lots of great help from lots of great people.

2 points

by ShitCoffeeover 4 years ago

Yes I understand the problem I had was my vendor here in Ireland just didn't have 100mg/ml pure (I'm guessing it's to do with TPD regulations) instead he has 2 types only in 10ml sizes:

Nicotine Base Salt10ml/18mg salt 50/50 or Pro Nic Salt 10ml/20mg salt 70/30

I'll check the sidebar for possible new vendors. Thanks for the advice

2 points

by deep_agent_76over 4 years ago

Check out www.darkstar.co.uk for all ur flavours & nicotine and VG n PG needs. There the best DIY online vapejuice shop out there imo hope this helps

1 points

by ShitCoffeeover 4 years ago

That's nice of you, thanks man, I'll have a look now

5 points

by kuri_sanTouover 4 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Adding 10ml 50/50 will get you down to 10mg. Adding 30ml will get you down to 5mg

1 points

by ShitCoffeeover 4 years ago

I see but don't understand. If I add 10ml it is halved, would it not be halved again if I added another 10ml so 20ml in total?

3 points

by kuri_sanTouover 4 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Play with This

0 points

by ShitCoffeeover 4 years ago

I will thanks

2 points

by QueenBuzyBeeover 4 years ago

No. You then have 20ml 10mg/ml. If you want to cut that in half, you‘d have to add 20ml of 0mg PG/VG. The result is 40ml of 5mg/ml.

1 points

by ShitCoffeeover 4 years ago

Aha this makes sense thank you.

1 points

by baglebumperover 4 years ago

Just add some 3mg to it of same flavor

2 points

by ShitCoffeeover 4 years ago

The weakest of the same flavor they sell here is 10mg and it costs the same as 20mg which is $6. I'm in Ireland and everything is rather expensive here :(

1 points

by baglebumperover 4 years ago

So that's $9 dollars usd. Is that a ten ml bottle?

1 points

by ShitCoffeeover 4 years ago

No its 6usd for 10ml of 10mg or 20mg

1 points

by Zeilllaover 4 years ago

You can get the same flavour without any nicotine just add some of that

1 points

by ShitCoffeeover 4 years ago

I've sourced 3 shortfills from Charlie's Chalk Dust and Pacha Mama that I'm gonna pick up tomorrow. I'll mix in Strawberry with my Fuji, Black Ice with my Starfruit Grape and Mango Pittaya with my Sorbet. I should end up with 240ml of 5mg nic salts with only slight alteration to their flavours. I'll end up with about $125 worth of salts for $50 total

1 points

by ShitCoffeeover 4 years ago

The exact flavours aren't available unfortunately 😢

1 points

by deep_agent_76over 4 years ago

Ur welcum bud

1 points

by guido-possumover 4 years ago

I had a bottle of 50mg/mL Pachamama sorbet salts that was unvapable straight out the bottle - like they'd used freebase instead of salts or something.

All the other bottles of 50mg salts vaped smooth as silk.

I ended up mixing that down to 25mg with just VG and not only did the nicotine get smoother, the sorbet flavour actually tasted better.

I'll never buy Pachamama anything again though.

1 points

by ShitCoffeeover 4 years ago

My plan was to make 5mg of salts down from 20mg. So what I ended up doing is I bought 4 shortfills, Mango Pittaya, Slamberry, Moustache Milk and Black Ice.

I mixed 10ml of 20mg Sorbet (Pacha Mama) with a 30ml shortfill of Mango Pittaya (Pacha Mama) This was yummy but not strong enough salt wise so I ended up adding in the second bottle of Sorbet. I now have 50ml of Mango Pittaya Sorbet 8ish mg salt. It's delicious and a good strength.

Then I mixed 20ml of Fuji Apple 10mg (Pacha Mama) with 40ml Slamberry Shortfill (Charlie's Chalk Dust) so it's now 60ml of 6.6mg salt Fuji Apple Slamberry

Then I mixed 20ml Starfruit Grape 20mg (Pacha Mama) with 20ml Mango Pittaya shoftfill (Pacha Mama) to give me 40ml of 10mg Starfruit Grape Mango Pittaya

I am currently vaping the 10mg salt, then will move to the 8mg salt and finally onto the 6.6mg salt.

I'm using a Wasp Nano RTA DL with 0.6ohm build ni80 5 wraps @ 17-22 watts, Hits 3-8 seconds, smooth, flavourful and dense clouds.

Thanks for all your advice and helpful guides.

I've been using this calculator: https://indejuice.com/nicotine-shot-calculator