Happy Monday! I wanted to let everyone know that River Supply Co. will be having a Valentines Day sale this weekend. They just posted it in the ELR vendor section.
Here are the details–
25% off everything excluding some items in bulk which do not belong on this subreddit and clearance.
Starting: 2/12 @ 12:01 AM PST Ends: 2/14 @ 11:59 PM PST
No Code Required.
Just my luck LOL... I just ordered a liter of 100mg last week and it already shipped. Oh well.
Guys, do I absolutely have to store nic in cold? I have no room!
No. It just extends the life of the nicotine. I have a bottle that's been sitting in a drawer for close to a year now and it hasn't really changed much. If you plan to get a large amount, like gallons I would put some in the freezer.
Has anyone gotten freebase from them and tested it somewhat recently?
I only get PureNic from River Supply. I ordered one, last month. They made a mistake and sent two, in two separate shipments. I asked them if they wanted the second one back. They said "no, just keep it. It was our mistake." It was a 150ml bottle of freebase 100mg/ml. Clear as day and very little smell. No taste is discernable to me, but I only mix at 3mg and 6 mg.
Dang. I just ordered from them... Should have waited a couple days.
Yeah. I think a lot of us hit the panic button on the vape mail ban. Never considered a upcoming holiday sale.
It's the whole reason I found this sub... Buying up supplies just in case, so I might have to get another bottle of nic anyway.
The only thing I was thinking about getting from them is a few kgs of nic powder, to chuck into the freezer as a JIC - but of course that isn't part of the sale ;(
Everything else I already have way more than I need...
I saw there were two kinds of Nicotine powders. What's the difference between them, other than the mg/g?
How are they used. Do you dissolve them in PG or VG (and how is that strength determined) then use them as usual in a vape calculator/recipe?
How well does the powdered Nicotine store compared to the liquid? I have limited freezer space, so can't store many bottles.
I've never used powder before so this is just my impressions after reading about them (on River's site, Alchem and a couple chem sites)
River offers 2 types - the Polacrilex appears to be designed for NRT only - like lozenges or gums, etc..
The Bitartrate Dihydrate can also be used for NRT but it is soluble in PG as well.
So, using the Bitartrate Dihydrate type - you'd mix X grams of Nic powder with X mL's of PG to create your nic base - and then use/mix that as you normally would to make your juice. Just like you'd measure and mix menthol crystals with PG to create a menthol flavoring that would be added as an ingredient, or Stevia powder, etc...
The nic powder would be easier to store in that it's a very small size vs liquid. I want to get a couple of 1 kg bags, that I can put into freezer bags and then toss in the freezer as a 'just in case'/backup kinda thing. I think each kg of powder will make about a gallon of 100mg/mL
I saw these powders for the first time on River's site, so thanks for the explanation for which I should get.
It would be nice if I could find something explaining exactly what ratio of powder to PG to use. The Bitartrate Dihydrate is 340 mg/g.
I could do with a bag of powder that makes a gallon of 100mg/ml.
HELP FOR A NOOB! Hi I’m new to DIY I wanted to order nicotine and I use 6 mg freebase n 3mg once in a bluemoon. I don’t know what to order :( any help would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks
Get 100mg and 3mg in a 120ml bottle you use 3.6ml.. I can not say anymore after that I guess 60 would be 1.3..
I only make 120s when I make vape..
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7.2ml for 6mg.. I am assuming.. Hopefully someone else can steer you if my math is bad..
Better yet just go here.. It is the best way to get how many ml in something you want without having my shady maths..
https://vccalc.vapingcommunity.co.uk/vapocalypse
Use that to see how much base nicotine you need to get to last you for a long time.
Ok so I jumped on the talk on DIY or Die last night n they told me to get pg, vg, n nic separate but do they offer that at Riversupplyco? I see they have 50/50, vg, or pg base nicotine... sorry a lil confused first time. They said if I buy a base nicotine I’m limiting my self to what I can do, I do use a variety of store juices from 50/50 70/30 80/20 . Always wanted to DIY because of too much sweetener in juices just a lil confused 🤷♂️ thank you
Well, for example take 100mg/ml VG nicotine base. If you want to mix 100 ml at 6mg strength, just add 6ml of base nic. From that, subtract 6ml from the remaining VG you need to add.
If you're trying to get 70%VG/30%PG, you'd need to add 64ml of pure VG to a 100ml batch. Flavors are usually PG-based, so subtract your flavor ml amount from 30ml. If you add 10ml of flavor, you'd need to add 20ml of pure PG. Once you do that, you're done! Just let it age (some call it steeping) for a week or two to let the flavors mellow and them vape away.
My go-to recipe is 70/30 at 3mg. I make 500ml at a time. I use 15ml of 100mg/ml base, 50ml of Jungle Juice flavor, 2 ml of Extreme Ice, and to that I add 335ml of VG plus 98 ml of PG. Gives 3mg/ml in the finished product.
If you want to adjust that for 6mg/ml, add 30 ml of 100mg/ml base, and add 320ml of VG.
You are limiting yourself if you buy 3ml/mg base nic as you can't get any stronger than that, and anything you add to that base will dilute it further. If your goal is 6mg/ml, you can't start with 6mg/ml base. 100mg/ml is just easier to calculate when making 100ml batches.
River Supply sells 100mg/ml and it's fairly cheap at $50 per liter. Don't get 1000mg/ml, 1 liter is $308 shipped which is cheaper for the total nicotine, but 1000mg/ml is ridiculously strong and just getting a drop on your skin can give you a bad nicotine buzz or worse. 100mg/ml can still absorb into the skin, but it's a lot weaker so it's not as bad if you get it on your skin.
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask!