Hi, first time posting here. Sorry, I am sure this question has been asked a thousand times.
I bought some salt nic a couple of months ago, and recently bought a large amount of different concentrates, and some PG and VG from someone who has quit vaping.
All of the concentrates are fruit flavours with majority from The Flavour Apprentice. I'm wondering, if I make up some small bottles to try how long should I leave them before they are ready to sample?
I'm thinking that mixing and vaping right away probably won't give me a good gauge on how they are.
Thanks, and again sorry what I'm sure is a common question.
It's a super common question yeah. It depends on your flavours.
You can shake and vape most of the fruits but you'll notice a big difference after 3 days.
For koolada and ws 23 you should wait a week to get the full minty hit. Same for creamy stuffs and things with vanilla.
For tobacco flavours, ry4 and so on, you should wait 2 weeks to get the full potential.
You should go on alltheflavors.com , search the flavour you want to use, and look at the recipes where your flavours have been used. You'll get a lot of informations on this website
Fruit flavors generally don't need a steep, but it really depends. Try them at intervals to see how they change.
i almost forgot, go check this out
https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/wiki/index/flavor_reviews
I pretty much only use fruit flavors and I am able to use them right away, but they taste better after 3-10 days. Something I have found helpful is when I buy a new flavor I will make a single flavor eliquid and I will add a very small amount of sweetner, or none at all and if I feel like I need it I can add a couple of drops. Then I can get a better feel for the flavor and I can mix the single flavor eliquids together in my tank to experiment before mixing flavors together in a single eliquid. I also learned the hard way that less is more. I thought I needed to have the total flavoring to be about 20%, but most of the time it was just too much. It really does depend on the flavors, and the recipe, but I have found using smaller amounts work out better and I will have a full bodied flavor. Also not using a lot of sweetner, when I first started making eliquid I asked if sweetner should always be added and was told yes, which isn't the case. When I do use a sweetener it's always a very small amount.
I think this has been a problem for me in the past. Using too much flavour. I never seemed to get a goof, full-bodied flavour at all.
I'll try going by the flavour reviews on here, and sticking to lower percentages.
Definitely try it, because I did the same thing and I would end up with vapors tongue quite a bit and everything would taste the same. Have you been on e-liquid recipes site? I love it, it makes it easier to calculate everything and keep a record of what you have made, and you can check out tons of recipes from other users.
Lorann's Flavorings, Cappella's Flavorings, Flavor West, Flavor Art.... Try some of the flavors out from these guys.
The flavor apprentice flavors are not all that good.
Actually, taking a better look today, I think there are about 35 flavours. A mix of TFA, Flavour Art and Capella.
I'll be sure to try Flavour Art and Capella.
Are there any particular reason why TFA isn't that good?
To be fair I haven't explored their offerings in a while. The flavors just didn't taste right. They also wrecked coils within days.
I'll try some Capella and Flavour Art and see if there is a noticeable difference.
I already mixed a small amount of TFA strawberry last night. Yes, it doesn't taste....'right'...is the best way to say it.
I have just mixed some Flavour Art's Forest Fruit Mix. Smells much better. Will try vaping it soon.
Kinda depends on personal preferences, too. I personally steep my fruity vapes for about 2 weeks (except some flavours that fade really fast). Custards only get better with time, same for tobaccos.
Everything with a cream aroma gotta steep for atleast a week. If you vape fruit flavors only, Then put 10-20 drops of citric acid in it when mixing, that makes your fruit flavors "pop" more and gives more taste. I would always recommend atleast a week, but thats just me. As others have said, some Work well as a shake n vape.
Please don't dose by counting drops 🥺🙏 A scale is cheap, syringes are even cheaper
You have to be very exact with citric acid too much and it will mute the flavors and gunk coils. 20 drops would be enough for a liter.
I'm seeing citric acid comes in a powder form. Do I just dissolve it in some water, then add it in?
I haven't used it before.
I steep spearmint a whole 5 minutes. But you can speed up the process with heat and or by placing the bottle on a vibrating fan.
Correct u/caculonxpy
Heat the finished juice to around 100°-110°F (shaking briefly along the way to speed up the heat spread). Your final shake should sound and 'feel' like water in the bottle. It is about 80% steeped at this point with the final change within 24 hours (almost all flavor combinations) that will produce that beautiful champagne color.
Man, you guys have all been awesome. Such simple tips which actually make a huge difference.
So far I have gathered;
Try my Capella and Flavour Art flavours over TFA - or at least don't judge on TFA alone.
I can add sweetener or some citric acid to make the fruit flavours 'pop' a little more.
I can try shaking and vaping fruit flavours - though a few days steep will be better.
I can speed this up by heating it or leaving on a vibrating fan.
Other style flavours take longer steeping.
Making small, single flavour liquids - then mixing them in tank to see how the go together, is a good method.
Some really good advice here. I appreciate it.
Looks like I am getting some sweetener and citric acid today.