Must have tobacco flavorings?

submitted almost 5 years ago by Dokyos

What are the best / must have tobacco flavors for mixing SIMPLE recipes? Something that tastes good without adding 6-7 different flavors. I only used RY4 so far in my recepies ( tpa's ry4 double ) and it's grown on me but now I want to expand my horizons with different tobacco flavors. What should I get?

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10 points

by kuri_sanToualmost 5 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Tobacco matrix

Check out /u/juthinc's guide on Crafting Dessert Tobacco Recipes

Or /u/isuamadog's write up Intro to Tobaccos

And definitely Getting in to Tobaccos by /u/ChemicalBurnVictim

5 points

by isuamadogalmost 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

i would also add my off the top of my head FLV Tobacco pack Flavor notes. as kind of a looser guide to short steep, widely popular tobacco flavors.

I should probably write some updated version including some INW and FA and things eventually...

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by Dokyosalmost 5 years ago

thanks, every bit helps

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by Dokyosalmost 5 years ago

Thanks, will take a look right away

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by isuamadogalmost 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

idk. kinda doesnt work like that but popular ones are FLV red burley & cured. You can do a lot with just those two.

i might like something different than you.

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by Dokyosalmost 5 years ago

ok that definately helps to give me something to start with

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by Ubelalmost 5 years ago

Most of them are way too sweet in my experience, even when someone says it's not very sweet, it usually is too sweet. But this is coming from someone that's smoked many different types of pipe tobacco and preferred ones that weren't aromatic.

TFA M-Type was great to have around because it's not sweet and has a very very unique flavor, insanely potent too so you only need a little and it lasts forever, but they discontinued it because they were afraid of FDA regulations involving ecig flavors.

2 points

by Apexifiedalmost 5 years agoThe Kingmaker

TFA still makes a bunch of tobacco flavors: https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/c-153-tobacco-and-wood-flavors.aspx

So I don't think that's why they discontinued it.

/u/mixman0g posted this awhile back. Might help you :)

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by mixman0gover 4 years agoDelightfully Mediocre

Haha, forgot about that post.

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by Ubelover 4 years ago

I'm not saying they were afraid of tobacco flavors, but they were afraid of FDA regulations involving ingredients in ecig flavors, some of the ingredients in M-Type were even more grey area than normal.

I think it was the Tabanon because they continued selling M-Type as Bitter Nut Extra, just without the Tabanon. Bitter Nut Extra is the same formulation as M-Type - just missing one singular ingredient of Tabanon.

5+ years ago the TFA description for M-Type used to be different and alluded to it having some natural compound that was in real tobacco (I remember this because it's what piqued my interest about it so strongly), not sure if it was the Tabanon or not but I think they were worried about that or the effects of it being vaped considering they were a perfumery/candy supply company first and neither of those involve inhalation into the lungs.

EDIT: The description for Tabanon on pellwell.com says " The chemical occurs naturally in both tobacco and also osmanthus flowers among other things. "

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by Apexifiedover 4 years agoThe Kingmaker

Interesting. They still sell Tabanon, too.

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by stabloggerover 4 years ago

If you are looking for flavours that could be vaped on their own, have a look at INW black for pipe and INW gold ducat.

3 points

by Enyawreklawover 4 years agoCreator - Best Recipe of 2015: Rhodonite

Honestly I found tobacco is such a personal and subjective profile. Your best bet is to just continue to pick a few up every order until you find the “type” you like and then dig deeper from there.

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by [deleted]almost 5 years ago

Anything from Flavorah rules imo. If you gonto their website, you can see descriptions and come up with nice pairings. A little goes a long way, too.

2 points

by nakedzover 4 years ago

FLV Red Burley

FLV Turkish

INW Vanilla For Pipe

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by LonesomeRhodesTNover 4 years ago

Some favorites: FLV Native, FLV Kentucky Blend, Jungle Flavors RY4 Double, FLV Smoked Butterscotch (not a tobacco . . . but goes great with tobaccos). Look into Fear's recipes (https://alltheflavors.com/users/Fear) and, as someone has already stated, ChemicalBurnVictim's (https://alltheflavors.com/users/ChemicalBurnVictim) recipes . . . you will not be disappointed if you are looking for tobaccos.

2 points

by mkweiseover 4 years agoMissing One Flavor

In addition to the FLV tobaccos others have mentioned, give the naturally extracted tobaccos from StixxMixx a try:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/ci2je7/stixx_mixx_first_impressions_part_i_a_low_effort/

2 points

by ID10-Tover 4 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

FLV - Cured, Red Burley, Native, Sweet & Smokey

INW - Black for Pipe, Dark for Pipe

JF - RY4 Double

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by LonesomeRhodesTNover 4 years ago

Shit . . . I forgot about Sweet & Smokey!

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by ID10-Tover 4 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

How could you?!

Especially with OP saying he likes RY4, it was the first thing that came to mind.

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by LonesomeRhodesTNover 4 years ago

I blame my wife. She was talking at me while I was typing.

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by LonesomeRhodesTNover 4 years ago

Side note . . . I'm working on (yet another dessert tobacco . . . surprise, surprise) Burley Smoked S'Mores recipe. If it pans out, I'll share it out!

1 points

by TheNebulousMindover 4 years ago

I personally like Desert Ship by FA a lot, but I'm not sure that many others do. It's a bright tobacco, sweet and spicy, slightly nutty. Lacks the flavors I don't like from other tobaccos like wood and leather. I find it good on it's own but it pairs really well with creams, custards, caramel, etc. I tried a simple mix with Desert Ship and Toasted Marshmallow (TPA) once, both at 2.5%, and was really happy with the results.

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by Jellybeneover 4 years ago

When I smoked I used to hand-roll a cherry flavoured tobacco and so when I started mixing I wanted to try and replicate that flavour. I mixed INW cherry tobacco with a pre-made tobacco eliquid I knew I liked, and it's still in my rotation 3 years later.

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by mixman0gover 4 years agoDelightfully Mediocre

Inawera tobacco flavors, with the exclusion of Dirty Neutral Base, mostly stand up on their own. The "For Pipe" series, as well as the "Tobacco Absolute" series and some of the "Shisha Tobacco" series are exceptionally good and typically need little else to fill them out.

This past year though, I've noticed they are becoming difficult to source state side. You can buy direct, but I haven't tried yet so I don't know about shipping or other potential difficulties.

Check out recipes by u/Fear, u/ChemicalBurnVictim, u/juthinc, and u/isuamadog. As noted here already, most of these mixers have guides available for pairing, starting %'s, and other helpful notes.

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by Dokyosover 4 years ago

Great, thanks

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by Feldrodover 4 years ago

Flavour Art Desert Ship, 5% Top it off, shake that shit, put it somewhere else and set a reminder after a month Bliss. I always do at least 200ml batches of it. I also love Euliquid Wasteland and Imperia EMIR and RY4, both imperia and Euliquid are Czech republic specific tho.

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by Famous-Crabover 4 years ago

Soho by Flavour Art! Wonderful, mild, caramel, sweet Tobacco

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by poroburgerover 4 years ago

TPA Cubano Type, INW Desert Ship, TPA Turkish, BF Tobacco Yuco /or Canat/, AL Nutacco.

i'd totally recommend TPA's Cubano Type if you want a dry, cigar-like taste. definitely needs about 2 weeks to steep! and harmonizes well with juicy fruits too, and some nuts. (i usually make juicy apricot & peach cigarillos, sometimes with extra toasted almond added.)

BF's Tobacco Yuco tastes good in nutty-chocolate tobacco recipes. has a distinctive bittersweet dark chocolate note, not too harsh.