Hi everyone, I was trying out some recipes and got one that I really like, modified some percentages and love the result. The test is a 30ml bottle. I was looking to mixing a large batch (+2000ml) to use and share with family and some friends but I was kind of worried if the mix translates well when large. Never had to mix a large volume before. Is it the same? Do I keep the same percentages whatever the volume? Any insight is welcome!
Yep, it’s the same thing, but here’s a trick for you, if you want to mix like 1000ml of juice, first make a one shot of your flavorings, then mix up the base then add everything in one big bottle so that you cannot make mistakes.
Have you allowed your 30ml bottle to sit for a really long steep yet to see how it reacts? If not I wouldn't mix 2L. That big of a recipe would require a much longer steep than 30mls and it will definitely go through a really long steep until it's vaped up.
So it would be better to mix the 2L and separate it in smaller bottles to let it steep ? Didn't know the volume impacted the steeping time :/
You still didn't answer the important question. Have you made this recipe before and is it still great after a long steep. Some recipes drastically change after steep and are best as a snv recipe. Some taste really weak after a steep. Making a finished 2L without thoroughly testing small batches first would be a costly mistake.
Personally I would test the recipe in smaller batches like 30ml or 100ml and allow it to steep for 2-4 weeks to make sure it's worth mixing on a large scale. Then I would make a one shot of the flavorings and mix 100mls whenever I need them and always have some steeping for when I run out. 2L is a lot to mix at once. Who knows how that recipe will taste many months down the road.
It’s the same. But if you screw it up you could be out 2 Liters of juice
Yeah I'm kinda fearing that 'xD I'm also concerned about flavors reacting differently, sweeteners muting the whole thing or just the whole steeping process reacting differently... I don't know :/
As long as you have percentages and enough ingredients to satisfy the recipe you can mix a 50 gallon drum as long as you dont make a mistake. Personally I mix my finalized recipes in 500ml batches. I add all my flavorings first, then nic followed by PG. I do the VG last as it's the bulk of the mix. My first time testers I usually mix in 30ml, then the last couple tweaks usually come by way of full 60ml testers.
I havent been mixing batches larger than 250ml lately.. but I do mix 500ml batches sometimes for juice that needs a good steep or for friends. It's not any different other than using more ingredients, and if you make a small error it's barely going to matter(if at all) because its much higher volume. For example, if your off on something by .10 grams it will make next to no difference.
Still gotta pay attention though fr.
For every recipe I have developed, I would mix a 10ml (many times until I was happy), a 30ml (2-3 times because I usually found I needed to tweak something) and then finally a 60ml. I never found a difference between the final 30 and a 60.
Further to what u/Dajuicegood said, it worked out for my ADV that I buy all the ingredients for a 3 litre batch. I make a one-shot by adding all of the flavor concentrates together (it works out to 600ml of flavor, so I mix it in a mason jar): then I mix a 500ml at a time, adding 100ml of flavor, 50ml PG and 350ml VG. Shake, cap and put it away for two weeks. Awesome juice and it makes mixing a bottle every month a 10 minute task.
Why not mix up 200 or 300ml instead...that's still alot of juice.
Most on here recommend weighting rather than measuring mix’s - what makes that way a better method ?
I am complete novice and seems easiest and more accurate to measure by ml than weight
Im sure weighting is as acurrate as measuring volume, the only issue is keeping tabs with the volumic mass of every concentrate. Those tend to differ from one concentrate to another. As many stated, weighting makes working with small percentages way easier. If it wasn't for the deconcentration step I took with almost every concentrate I buy, I wouldn't be able to measure accurately the volume I use with small mixes (10~30ml)
Are you using a mixing calculator? That'll make it a lot easier and will lessen the chance of screwing up. Also depending on what type of recipe it is a bigger batch might need a longer steep? Although I think there's some debate about that theory. I've not experimented or tested it myself as I only ever make smaller batches.