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Nicotine question
submitted about 5 years ago by shmickledood

I have a 30ml bottle of 72mg nic, 100% PG. I've calculated that I can make 24 3mg 30ml bottles of juice, before running out. So far, I've made about 10 or 11 30ml bottles, which should mean that I've used half the bottle. However, when I take it out the freezer, it looks like i've only used 1/4 or so. Also the stuff is really thick, slightly thicker than VG is at room temp. Is this to do with the stuff expanding due to being frozen or what? Furthermore, with the most recent batch of juice, I made it 3.5mg, but it doesn't feel like I'm getting as much of a kick as with the previous 3mg batches; although this could be due to me overthinking about it.

Edit: I think I now know the reason why. I took my bottle out of the freezer last night, and checked this morning; it is now at room temp and seems to be as thick as VG, so I think they messed up and sent a 100% VG one. This now explains the why, as I assumed it was 100% PG (which is what I ordered).

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by kuri_sanTouabout 5 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

If your measurements are correct then that’s all that matters. I’ve never heard of PG expanding when exposed to freezing temperatures.

Also, 30ml is working bottle size. there’s no need to put that small amount of nic in the freezer. going from cold to warm 24 times (24 bottles) is not a good idea. A cool dark place is fine enough. I kept 120ml of 48mg/ml in a drawer for over a year and it didn’t degrade or oxidize.

The only thing I can think of is they gave you extra nic. I ordered 1 oz boston rounds (29.5 ml) for my nic but they actually held close to 50 ml so you can have some head room. Maybe you got a 40 ml bottle and they just topped it off.

30 ml in four containers

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by Hate_Feightabout 5 years ago

I have 2 bottles I bought at the start of lockdown 120ml and neither bottle tastes off, even if the one in the plastic bottle looks reddish brownish and is fine...

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by shmickledoodabout 5 years ago

OK, thanks for the reply. That seems like the most logical explanation for the level in the bottle.

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by QueenBuzyBeeabout 5 years ago

Hi. How are you measuring your nicotine, by volume (ml) or weight (g)?

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by shmickledoodabout 5 years ago

Both. I'll take roughly the right amount into a syringe, and then put it into the bottle, which is on a scale. Also, are you meant to wait until the stuff completely thaws out, because I've just been putting it in when it's still thick.

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by Epicbraindamageabout 5 years ago

You need to get it to almost room temperature to use it. It needs to be mixed well otherwise you'll have nic hot spots in almost frozen PG. As it cools down it will become thin. Don't use it frozen.

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by Binsky89about 5 years ago

PG nic doesn't need to be almost room temperature to shake up well. VG nic definitely does, though.

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by QueenBuzyBeeabout 5 years ago

If you are taking roughly the amount of nic with a syringe and putting it in the bottle, I highly doubt that it’s an exact measurement, which is why I suspect your 30ml nicotine bottle is still more than half full.

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by QueenBuzyBeeabout 5 years ago

You also don’t want to referee your nic everything you‘ve used it. That will ruin it. You freeze your surplus (in amber glass bottles with polycone caps) and leave a small working dripper bottle out. No need for syringes. Drip and weigh!

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by markfm12about 5 years ago

PG doesn't expand when cold.

Nic base coming out of a freezer should be given a day to adjust to room temp before opening, so you don't get condensation inside the bottle when it is opened.

As to whether it should be stashed in the freezer, it depends on how quickly you run through it (how many mg of nic per day you run through), and the storage environment. My working bottle (the one I use for mixing) has about one year worth of nic in it. I will open it about once every 2 - 3 weeks for a round of mixing, have it capped except for the brief time it takes to pull some out. The bottle itself is glass, brown, in a basement that normally has the lights off and stays at about 65-75 degrees F. By the end of a given working bottle the nic inside it shows little degradation.

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by yrructapabout 5 years ago

Agree on all. I have 2 liters of 48mg 100% VG in 1 oz Amber Boston Rounds in my freezer. Light and air are nics enemy. I keep a working bottle in the fridge but leave it out until room temperature prior to mixing. That’s important. If I buy a new liter I keep mine sealed in the the light deterrent bag it comes in stored in a cool dark place until I’m ready to transfer to 1 oz. I’ve heard of nic stored in the freezer in this fashion lasting several years. Anecdotal so I hope it’s correct. I stocked up due to the crazy tax legislation I’ve heard of here in the US. Now I have a question. What is the advantage of PG?

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by slaughterkittieabout 5 years ago

>What is the advantage of PG?

It's just easier to work with.

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by kuri_sanTouabout 5 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Less prone to hot spots

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by slaughterkittieabout 5 years ago

Yeah of course, that's a very important thing to note too! Mea culpa, it was still early when I posted my comment.

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by redbicabout 5 years ago

How are you measuring?

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by shmickledoodabout 5 years ago

scale, but I use a syringe to get it from the bottle into the other bottle.

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by redbicabout 5 years ago

What do you think 1ml of PG Nic weighs?

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by Binsky89about 5 years ago

It's PG nic

Edit: guy above me said VG nic before his edit.

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