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Issues with cream flavors
submitted about 5 years ago by angry_papayaMissing One Flavor

Does anyone else have issues with cream/custard flavors? I’ve never been able to enjoy a store-bought cream or dessert flavor, and I suspect that it’s because they contain TFA Vanilla Custard or TFA Bavarian Cream or some other similar flavor. I’ve tried both, and, as much as I want to like them, they both taste disgusting to me. Are there any suitable replacements that I can use? I love the idea of cream/custard/pastry vapes but I just can’t make them work with what I have.

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9 points
 
by Macktologistabout 5 years ago

Cream flavors leave an off-putting aftertaste on the back of my tongue. Dislike most I try.

1 points
 
by angry_papayaabout 5 years agoMissing One Flavor

It’s not even the aftertaste for me. The whole experience is just awful. I can’t even really describe it. TFA Bavarian Cream tastes like wet cardboard but Vanilla Custard is just in a ballpark of its own. Way too disgusting for me to use in any recipe.

1 points
 
by jasone414about 5 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Have you tried any other brands besides TFA?

1 points
 
by angry_papayaabout 5 years agoMissing One Flavor

Not yet. I got some recommendations in this thread that I’m gonna order. I suspect that Ethyl Vanillin is the compound that makes these taste so bad to me though and I know that’s used in a lot of flavors

1 points
 
by SigmaLanceabout 5 years ago

I have to let an vanilla custard that I try steep for a few weeks to get rid of that weird strange flavor. That steep time alone makes it an automatic pass for me.

5 points
 
by mysticalbuffaloabout 5 years ago

You might try FLV vanilla pudding and see if it is enjoyable. If it is maybe substitute it for the others.

2 points
 
by Kittybit8about 5 years agoI found my thrill on ID10-T’s hill

This I agree with.

I haven't been able to do most custards for a while now, but FLV Vanilla Pudding is a great compensation.

3 points
 
by SigmaLanceabout 5 years ago

Can confirm...most custards have a strange taste to them, but FLV Vanilla Pudding is super.

CNV Vanilla Pudding, TPA Toasted Marshmallow, and FA Vienna Cream combined together creates a smooth cream as well.

5 points
 
by Phatpharm269about 5 years agoMixologist

LB Vanilla Icecream is top shelf

Many creams and especially custards require long steeps

What percentages are you using?

I use FA Fresh Cream at 0.5% to smooth out rough edges for some recipes

Heard great things about FLV Cream but no personal exp

3 points
 
by angry_papayaabout 5 years agoMissing One Flavor

I haven’t even tried mixing with it yet because it smells so awful :/ it’s the same exact thing I’ve noticed in plenty of store bought juices, even ones that have been steeped for weeks.

2 points
 
by Phatpharm269about 5 years agoMixologist

I wonder if these are the DX versions that use puke (butyric acid) instead of DAAP

(Diacetyl, Acetoin and Acetyl Propionyl)

1 points
 
by angry_papayaabout 5 years agoMissing One Flavor

Nope, I specifically avoided the DX ones because I thought butyric acid was the problem. Apparently not :/

5 points
 
by Morgan_Druryabout 5 years agoCoil Sauce Sommelier

Here's a bunch of flavors depending on what end result you're looking for.

CNV Vanilla Bean Ice Cream

CNV Sweet Cream

FLV Whipped Cream

FLV Vanilla Pudding

FLV Avocado

FE Sweet Rice

JF Sweet Strawberry Cream

JF Dulce De Leche

CNV Lemon Cream Wafer

OOO Cream (Milky Undertone)

OOO Butter Pecan Ice Cream

VTA Banana Custard

1 points
 
by camgogowabout 5 years ago

I have enough knowledge to know flv avocado is a viable candidate but not nearly enough understanding as to why

3 points
 
by Morgan_Druryabout 5 years agoCoil Sauce Sommelier

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/87qx0m/flv_avocado/

4 points
 
by apocalypticdiynewbabout 5 years ago

You could try TFA vanilla custard II, FA custard, FA custard premium.

3 points
 
by _zenithabout 5 years agoMissing One Flavor

Custard Premium is the bomb. So good.

3 points
 
by QueenBuzyBeeabout 5 years ago

Hi. Being that everyone’s taste is different, you‘ll have to try them yourself. I‘d advise you to watch Noted episodes on custards (youtube) and to read Reddit flavor reviews. I‘d imagine just about every single custard, cream, milk out there has been reviewed. Good luck! I hope you find something yummy, it’s so worth it!

2 points
 
by aminerviaabout 5 years ago

Yes, I don't understand it. I did, however, find that TFA cheesecake (graham cracker crust) is delicious and mix it with everything. It vastly improves other cream flavors and goes great with fruity ones as well

1 points
 
by essellarabout 5 years ago

And I, like a lot of other people, get "unwashed feet" from it. And that's the problem, in general, with artificial flavourings: we're trying to hit the key notes of the real deal with as few aroma chemicals as possible, and different people experience the same flavours quite differently.

2 points
 
by joeblowmaabout 5 years ago

When I first started diy I grabbed TFA Bavarian cream, TFA vanilla ice cream, TFA van custard, a couple french/vanillas and a few others that all tasted off, but at that point I gave up on creams because they had also irritated my lungs.

It was nearly 2 years later that I tried a series of commercial juices that were all cream/vanilla without issue. I've wound up with flv cream, lb ice cream, cap van. custard v1, tpa van. custard II, ooo cream (milky under) and a vanilla cupcake (think it's cap, it's more frosting than cake) that all taste fine and don't mess with my lungs. Out of those cap van. custard v1 is the only one I have a love/hate relationship with due to the sorta caramel note that comes out during steeping.

That said, the ones I like don't always work well with contrasting flavors like fruits for me, but I put that down to experience rather than the creams.

2 points
 
by Creepy_Crawlabout 5 years ago

Most cream flavors tend to taste the same to me. They always taste like maple syrup.

1 points
 
by funkymonkeybunkerabout 5 years ago

Anything with vanilla in it tastes like burnt garbage to me...

1 points
 
by angry_papayaabout 5 years agoMissing One Flavor

Exactly! That’s why I’m looking for a good substitute.

1 points
 
by funkymonkeybunkerabout 5 years ago

Yeah, IDK dude. I havent found it. Whatever "it" is... which means i end up mixing mostly fruits and candies...

1 points
 
by jasone414about 5 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Totally off topic, but are you still interested in my Paranormal? Had to get a new chip for it, which is being delivered today.

1 points
 
by BergenBoyabout 5 years ago

I have an issue with Flavour Art Bavarian Cream, Meringue and Vienna Cream, with TFA Meringue, and with Molinberry The Most Sweet Cream : They all taste burnt, so burnt it's unbearable. Even after a month steep they taste burnt. I did some searching and reading, and then did a test to open air steep those flavours for 3-4 weeks (no cap on the bottle for 3-4 weeks), and in April, when the weather got warm, the burnt off-note magically disappeared. Those flavours that I hated suddenly tasted wonderful, just by letting them steep with no cap. This is no guarantee it will work for your flavours, but if you haven't tried, maybe give it a shot.

1 points
 
by Jessicalynfoxabout 5 years ago

I have a friend who says similar. The only creams she has liked so far was tfa orange cream, low percentage INW custard, Nic River vanilla milk shake. I use marshmallow as a substitute for her when she wants something new to try and that seems to work the best so far.

Have you tried caramels? She has issues with those as well.

1 points
 
by KingCatLoLabout 5 years ago

I have never enjoyed cream flavors, they make me gag, even some fruit flavors are so far from their real flavor and make me nauseous, I also have one flavor I was vaping when I got off opiates for backpain, the withdrawls from that have solidified that flavor forever as horrific, and it ensues feelings of withdrawl 😪

Or baked flavors, if it isn't fruit, candy or a sharp flavor I can't stand it

1 points
 
by kuri_sanTouabout 5 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

You need butter in your life.

VT Butter Base - Butter King

CAP Golden Butter

TFA Butter

1 points
 
by Jasona1121about 5 years ago

So sorry if anyone's said so, ADHD... I got through your description and the first couple comments at the moment. Usually I can get pretty far on the topic of vaping and diy.

Anyway, what you can always do and what I usually do is go to the r/diy_ejuice sub and once you're there that'll be in your search bar. Go back to that and leave that alone but add noted cream. That should find the noted post(s) for creams and that will give you all the info you can handle for them. That way you get a good idea of what you're looking for before ordering and mixing. I do this all the time for anything I'm looking to start with and I go from there.

1 points
 
by billdawwgabout 5 years ago

I'm in the same boat. One of the only cream based juices I really enjoyed before I started DIY was Vapetasia's Milk of the Poppy. I couldn't find a clone recipe that was close enough so I started to try myself. I still haven't gotten MOTP down but I DID find a cream I like.

2% OoO cream Milky undertone 2% TFA sweet cream

1 points
 
by Nijsjolabout 5 years ago

I feel the same, bro. I see the essence, but Cream and custard just tastes 'fake' to me. I like cookies and cheesecake tho

1 points
 
by VAPING_ASSHOLEabout 5 years ago

I've been doing this for years and I've always been jealous of people that enjoy custard vapes. I've tried a bunch and I never liked them. I do like cream flavors though.

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