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Should my next liquid order be DIY stuff?
submitted about 5 years ago by mentallyillbluesman1

I'm taking psychotropic drugs which reduce my sense of taste.

Would I be able to create something stronger than retail juice?

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 5 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

Yes and no. That would come down to the flavors used. Most commercial juices are overflavored

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by -DixxleRoo-about 5 years ago

If you do decide on DIY get some Capella Super Sweet. It should help you taste your mixes better as it acts on the tongue rather than it all being in the nose. It's very sweet so use fairly sparingly. I use around 0.5% in most of my mixes but you can use a bit more or less depending on how sweet you like it. A 10ml bottle should last you quite a while.

Have you been on alltheflavors.com? Maybe find a recipe with a good rating that you like the sound of and just buy 10ml of all the flavours you'll need to make that. Then you can see if DIY is right for you without spending tons of money and time trying to create a recipe yourself. It's easy to end up with a muddled, muted mix as a beginner. There a lot of bad flavours out there and it's easy to misuse flavours if you don't understand their properties. If you had trouble tasting it you wouldn't know if it was the recipe or the medication that's causing it.

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by jasone414about 5 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

This is an excellent answer.

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by mkweiseabout 5 years agoMissing One Flavor

The 2nd paragraph is excellent advice. The first one, touting Super Sweet as a flavor enhancer, I cannot agree with.

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by -DixxleRoo-about 5 years ago

Do you not find sweetner helps? When I first started mixing I got terrible vapers tongue. It lasted for the best part of a year and it drove me crazy. A little Super Sweet enabled me to taste things- maybe not perfectly, but it did help. Ive heard it can help strawberry non tasters to some extent too. But I don’t have any first hand experience with that.

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by Nijsjolabout 5 years ago

I'm no expert, but keep in mind that more aroma does not equal more flavour

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by mkweiseabout 5 years agoMissing One Flavor

It does up to a point--the saturation point. If you exceed the saturation point, some flavors will start to mute while others will develop unexpected off-flavors.

Commercial juices are quite often oversaturated.

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by MasterBeernutsabout 5 years agoMixologist

It might be more accurate to say that sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't.

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by Nijsjolabout 5 years ago

Yes you're (for the most part) right. In my experience, it only 'boosts' the parfumy part of the flavour, not the actual flavour you're going for

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by falls_asleep_readingabout 5 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I take neurological meds that do the same. You may have to experiment a little, but yes, you can. I might not have been super confident when I first started DIY, but now I can look at a recipe and know if I need to tinker or not to get stronger flavor without oversweetening (EDIT: for example, 9.5 times out of ten, if a recipe has a flavor percentage of 5-7%, I typically double the percentages of each flavor in the recipe. Less than 10-12% total flavor at minimum and I can't taste a thing).

You'll need to be willing to experiment and be willing to toss something that just doesn't come out right. There's a bunch of flavor notes hanging around here on Reddit that you find with the search function. They'll give you an excellent starting point for percentages and will often tell you if a flavor brings out or overpowers other flavors.

TL;DR - yes, but you'll need to do some reading and experimenting to find what suits you.

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by jasone414about 5 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I personally wouldn't give a newbie the idea to just take any recipe and double the amount of flavoring. Many recipes use flavors that are close to or at the limit of their usable range, and doubling them could produce all kinds of nasty off-notes. It takes a pretty extensive flavor knowledge to know which flavors can be doubled like that without having adverse effects.

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by falls_asleep_readingabout 5 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

You... might want to re-read what you're commenting on. Allow me to highlight the pertinent parts (which is pretty much everything except one sentence where I gave an example that said I do something because of my tastes).

> You may have to experiment a little

> I might not have been super confident when I first started DIY, but now I can look at a recipe and know

> You'll need to be willing to experiment and be willing to toss something that just doesn't come out right. There's a bunch of flavor notes hanging around here on Reddit that you find with the search function. They'll give you an excellent starting point for percentages and will often tell you if a flavor brings out or overpowers other flavors.

> you'll need to do some reading and experimenting to find what suits you

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by jasone414about 5 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I read all of that. It was all good advice. Everything except for your edit, your first intuition is usually right and you should not have added the edit. Relax dude, you might want to go back and re-read my comment because I didn't say anything negative about all of that stuff that you just had to reiterate trying to make your point.

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by vergaerdabout 5 years ago

Taste, smell or both? Vaping is mostly smell.

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by Akeldama22about 5 years ago

Does is it reduce sense of taste as in your taste buds aren't working? Becasue AFAIK vape flavor is mainly taken in through olfactory senses, so if your taste buds are the problem you'll probably taste the vape juice still. And yeah you could make yourself something super potent with flavor, but that's pretty much what retail juice is, way too much flavor and sweetener.

1 points
 
by isuamadogabout 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

Diy means you can adjust.

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by gunner315about 5 years ago

I have a good friend that can not smell and barely taste anything. In the juice I make him I use nicotine in pg. Nicotine vg is smoother vs pg has a little more throat hit. And then I have maken him juices of all different flavor profiles until we found a couple he could barely taste. Good luck

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by jasone414about 5 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Why would the nic carrier even matter? 70/30 juice made with nic in PG vs. 70/30 juice made with nic in VG are exactly the same. More throat hit would come from using a higher PG% or a higher nic level.

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by grebaptisteabout 5 years ago

Maybe go for something like menthol? Something that is a sensation rather than a smell or flavor.

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by jasone414about 5 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

You would be able to mix something similar to commercial juice, if you wanted to. For the most part, we use the same flavors that they do. But there's a limit to the amount of flavoring that you can use. Using too much flavoring actually has the opposite effect and can mute the flavor.

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by Jessicalynfoxabout 5 years ago

Try lemon. My husband can taste lemon well and he is on the same meds. Also does well with coffee, darker berries

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