PART 1:

Noted Ep. 162: SYRUP HOLDERS (ft. Forment Life, Isuamadog, HumanPuck, TeslaDelMar)

(Episode aired on 4th August 2020)

(Ranked from worst to first)

French Toast:

RF French Toast: Really flat. Read more as toasted nuts in an underwhelming custard. Tested at various %s. Got the same result at every %. 5.32

OOO French Toast (One Shot): Has all the elements, but they come in separately. First get syrup, then butter, then slightly burnt, eggy toast. Not particularly good. 7.03

OOO French Toast: Mostly syrup. Dry, doughy, a little fluffy. But not French toast, no eggy-ness. No cinnamon. Bland. Tested at 2%, 2.5% 8.19

TP (Tasty Puff) French Toast: At 2.5% as a SNV it was boozy. After 5 days it was pretty decent. Wasn't eggy enough. Could pair it with some sort of custard to add some egg? After 10 days had some vanilla notes and a bit of a doughy body. Could be a good base for a French toast recipe. Isuamadog tried it at 3%, steeped for a couple of days. Thought it wasn't too bad, but wasn't too impressed. Tested at 2.5% and 3%. 11.06

There's probably not a great, compete French toast flavour. Going to have to build it yourself. It's tricky to get all the different distinct notes all in one single flavour. But the closer a single flavour gets to the finished product the harder it is to bend it into what you're trying to do. Limits versatility of that flavour. When Forment build a recipe he wants to get as close to the base components as possible

FE French Toast: The only one Forment has actually used in a recipe. Really heavy on the eggy, vanilla, custard element. With a light background bread note. So it's more like the batter you'd put on French toast. Works paired with something with a fried note, Forment used FA Zeppola to make a bread pudding. But doesn't have enough bread and lacks the buttery, pan fried note for French toast. Isuamadog also thought it lacked the buttery, pan fried element. But had a nice, toned down cinnamon and a good sticky feel that goes with the strong eggy note. Missing the toast. But makes it pretty versatile and useful. 14.50

Recipe: Apple Bourbon Bread Pudding by Forment_Life (ATF) 16.22

Pancakes:

TFA Pancake: Like a cheap, frozen pancake would do in the toaster. A little too dry, a little too crispy. Grainy. A little bit of really cheap tasting syrup. Isuamadog thought it wasn't awful, but not a pancake. 17.35

HS Pancake: Isuamadog ranked it worse than TFA. Predominantly peanut butter. Smells like peanut butter in the bottle. 18.50

NF (Nature's Flavors) Pancake: After 5 days steep HumanPuck got cinnamon with hand sanitizer. After 10 days still perfumey. Isuamadog thought it was ok, didn't get hand sanitizer. Got cinnamon with a touch of syrup and something like a soft cookie. Not a pancake. The cinnamon is a nice bakery cinnamon. HP tested at 5%. Isuamadog tested at 4%. 20.12

WF Crepe: Lemon zest or slightly sweetened lemon juice note, which can limit versatility. Really nice, delicate, bakery that definitely comes across as a crepe. The lemon can be covered in a mix. But have to make an effort to do so. Forment has successfully hidden it with banana and peanut butter in a recipe. 22.52

Recipe: Breakfast of the Gods by Forment_Life (ATF) 23.51

RF Pancakes: Not a lot of flavour, even at 4%. Pancake air. At 2.5% just had a touch of maple. 24.25

OOO Pancake: A lot like a soft sugar cookie. Not a lot of maple syrup. Could be useful if you already have it but Isuamadog wouldn't recommend getting it just to try to make it work. Tested at 3% 26.04

PART 2:

Noted Ep. 162: SYRUP HOLDERS (ft. Forment Life, Isuamadog, HumanPuck, TeslaDelMar)

Waffles:

INW Wunder Waffle: Excerpt from EdibleMalfunction's post, he couldn't do more than a couple of hits. Nauseating. Subtle artificial chocolate note then disgusting rotten bread. Yeasty note. TeslaDelMar concurs with EM's assessment. Tastes like butiric acid, AP and chocolate. Tested at 2%, steeped 1 day and again after a month.

FLV Waffle: Really bad. Forment tested it at 1.25%, tastes like the smell of opening a bag of sourdough bread that has gone visibly moldy. Lingers in the nose and mouth. HP tried it at 1 drop per 10ml as Concrete said it wasn't so bad at that concentration. Got some earthiness, like mushrooms with a touch of sweetness. Isuamadog tried it at 1%, got mushrooms, made him gag. Also tried it at 1 drop per 20ml and barely tasted anything. Tested at 1%, 1.25% and 1 drop in a 10ml and 20ml. 30.47

Tesla's hypothesis is AP plus butiric can end up tasting like rotten bread. Both INW Wunder Waffle and FLV Waffle share that off note.

CAP Waffle: Mostly maple syrup. No bready note. A very forgettable maple syrup, very meh. Not very sweet. Like brown simple syrup. 36.24

FW Blueberry Graham Waffle: Forment tried it at around 3.25%, a toned down FW Blueberry on a graham cracker. No waffle. There was nothing buttery and too dense for a waffle. Distinctly FW Blueberry. HP tried at 3%, blueberry dominant. Also got an Eggo style waffle you'd put in the toaster. Got less of an actual graham cracker and more of just the spices from a graham cracker. Not a good waffle. It you added something buttery, like VT Croissant it could maybe be worked into something pretty decent. Tested at 3% and around 3.25% 37.33

FP (Flavor Phoenix) Belgian Banana Waffle: Tesla could only test as SNV. Smelled like bourbon in the bottle. Contains a lot of ethyl alcohol. As a SNV tastes like a weird banana bourbon. Not pleasant. HP tried it after 5 days steep, got banana bourbon syrup that wasn't bad. Definitely useable in some sort of boozy mix. Banana is on the runty side, more artificial. Isuamadog got some waffle, but mostly banana and got the bourbon note. 40.12

HC (Health Cabin) Waffle: Thin, kind of weak. Non descript, light bready-ness. Maple note. Not much flavour. 43.54

NF (Nature's Flavors) Organic Waffle: Mostly butter with a little bit of syrup. No waffle. 44.57

TFA Waffle: Came across as slightly better than an Eggo style waffle. But still a cheap waffle. Far too much fake, artificial maple syrup. Nice butter note. 45.53

MB WW Waffle: MB Glamour Chocolate on a wafer cookie with a little hazelnut spread. Doesn't taste bad. But not a waffle. 47.36

LB Belgian Waffle: Not a bad waffle. Broadly hits all the elements of a waffle, has the right doughy-ness, not too heavy. But has a non descript spice note. Forment thought it was cinnamon-ish. HP tested it at 6.5% and picked it out as anise. A little bit sweet. Has waffle bready-ness. The spice note limits versatility. Could pair with something like PUR Country Apple so the spice note would fit. It's also a bit thin. Could use with something else to give it body. Tested it at 4%, 5% and 6.5% 48.43

NR (Nicotine River) Waffle Crunch: Forment got Kellogs Active cereal. Cornflakes with hints freeze dried strawberry. Not a breakfast waffle, more of a waffle cone if anything. Forment might use it in a parfait recipe and lean into the strawberry and add some tart yoghurt. Isuamadog also got cereal. Like a waffle toast crunch. Not too heavy on the AP, like a lot of cereal flavours. Pretty good as a cereal. 52.46.

FW Waffle Cone: Forment Tested at 2% with a week's steep. Really nice and pretty accurate to a waffle cone. Needs ice cream! Tastes like a freshly made waffle cone. HP tested it at 4%, thought after 10 days it was something in between a sugar cone and a waffle cone, but still accurate. At 1.75% as a SNV Tesla thought it was very cardboard-y. Isuamadog tried it at 2.5% with some steep, was good. Halfway between a waffle cone and sugar cone. Tested at 1.75%, 2%, 2.5%and 4% 55.28.

OOO Waffle (Belgian): HP tested it at 7%, really liked it. Fairly decent Belgian waffle with a hint of vanilla. But lacks the body your want. As a SNV was dry, nice sweetness with a little syrup. But no body whatsoever. After 5 days steep was a bit like Teddy Grahams. After 10 days was more of a waffle. Had a bit more body, but was still lacking in that department. Isuamadog tried at 5%, thought it lacked body. Also thought 5% was a bit too low for a SF. Tesla tested it at 3.5% as a SNV, got a very mild waffle flavour. Probably needs to steep. Has a nice darkness. Tested at 3.5%, 5% and 7%. Use around 7% as a SF. 57.20

FW Waffle: Humanpuck and Tesla tried it at 2%. HP just got a heavy maple syrup note and not much else. Tesla got a rich waffle, somewhat sweet. Isuamadog tried it at 3%, isn't completely accurate to a waffle. Benefits from some help. Forment usually mixes it with TFA Belgian Waffle at 1:1 ratio, creates a really accurate Eggo waffle. FW Waffle is like a sweet, buttery, vanilla dough. Lacks some body. Has some maple. Fills in everything TFA Belgian Waffle is missing and vice versa. Tested at 2% and 3% 1.00.48

TFA Belgian Waffle: It's everything FW Waffle is missing to make an Eggo waffle. Heavy artificial maple, butter note. Reminiscent of TFA Waffle, except cheaper tasting, less vanilla. Unapologetically a toaster style waffle. Isuamadog tested at 4%, slight cinnamon sugar, toasted notes. Tested at 4% 1.04.38

MB Classic Waffle: Really good. As a SNV Humanpuck thought it was reminiscent of FA Corn. Had a corn note with some vanilla, some crust, a little syrup. Very savoury. After 5 days it changed a lot. Turned into a great Belgian waffle. Nice doughy body. Not at all like a cheap, Eggo waffle. Like it's straight off the waffle iron, a little bit of crispness. Isuamadog let it steep for 4 days. Thought it was very accurate. As a flavour it's very prominent, so probably going to have to be the star of a recipe. Not sure how it will interact with other flavours in a more complex mix. But would likely stand up against stronger flavours that can be bullies. WF Strawberry Baked would go really nicely to get a syrupy, almost warm strawberry filling. Tested at 3%. 1.06.16

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