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Proper way to freeze 3mg VG
submitted about 5 years ago by cloudJR

So I've purchased 5 liters of 3mg VG pre-mixed and 2 liters of 1mg VG pre-mixed and I'm curious what the best way I should go about storing it all. I was originally just planning on pulling a liter out when I need it but now I'm thinking that may not be the best idea long term even if it's only a 2-ish year supply.

Also I have a similar question regarding flavors. Would it be wise to prepare them before freezing or store the flavorings and use them as needed?

Thanks!!

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by pbflashabout 5 years ago

I split mine up into smaller (60 ml) amber bottles. Then I keep 1 in the fridge to mix with and the rest in the freezer. I don't think flavors need to be in the freezer unless you are planning on storing them for long terms.

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by cloudJRabout 5 years ago

Yeah I really don't know how shelf life works with flavors that's why I ask. I keep them in a closed cabinet but I don't know if that's good enough for them to last 2 or more years. Thanks for the help!

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by pbflashabout 5 years ago

Not sure on the flavors as I don't buy that much at 1 time. Only stocked up on nic before the new taxes.

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by Apexifiedabout 5 years agoThe Kingmaker

If you use the search link in the FAQ/sidebar for "flavors shelf life" you'll find a bunch of discussions on it :)

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by cloudJRabout 5 years ago

You know I just used the search bar to find some answers but you are totally right I should checked the sidebar :(. I was on PC when I posted this as well so I have no excuse lol.

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by vigg-o-ramaabout 5 years ago

flavors should not be a concern.. they will still be available.. they may be harder to find, but they will still be there.. the majority of flavorings are made for food service and that is not going to go away. you can buy a lot of flavors on amazon, or direct from vendors.. they dont know what you are using it for.. I order direct from TFA all the time.. they make FOOD flavorings, and perfume scents.. they dont make "vape" products. capella, flavor art, etc.. all the same, they are food flavorings that we adopted.. so they are not going away. even PG and VG were around long before vapes and will continue to be available.

the nicotine is your only real concern. even that wont go away totally, but the proposed taxes make it sound out of reach for pretty much everyone. I calculated a 120ml bottle of 100mg is going to end up costing around $333.66USD. (they want to tax $50.33 per 1810mg of nic. a 120ml bottle of 100mg is 12,000 mg of nic.. so yeah, kinda crazy to think of those prices, but its still going to be available.

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by Saintz-WDabout 5 years ago

Do not pit flavors in freezer. They will separate and go bad. You can read on storage on any manufacturer's web site. Flavors go bad when the flavor has no flavor. They will get weak over time, which means you have to use more of it when it starts losing flavor.

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by Saintz-WDabout 5 years ago

To get the longest shelf life from flavors. Store them like essential oils. In amber glass bottles without droppers. The Essence that make up the flavor can escape through the rubber of the dropper.

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by electrobrainsabout 5 years ago

It doesn't really affect anything because they're not going to actually freeze, rather simply get quite cold and syrupy

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by DrublicPunk666about 5 years ago

If u are talking about nic u are wrong. Repeated temp changes from freezer to room temp will oxidize ur nic lot faster than keeping it either in freezer or at room temp. Best way to store nic long term is to have it separete (amber glass) bottles in freezer and each bottle containing enough nic for u to make 1 month's juice supply.
Sorry for my bad english.

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by electrobrainsabout 5 years ago

Why would you let it reach room temperature at all? It just needs to come out of cold storage for a few minutes. In any case, yes, it doesn't make sense to dispense directly from your large storage container.

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by Apexifiedabout 5 years agoThe Kingmaker

3-6mg base will take a long time to degrade at room temp. I've kept 500ml on my desk for 6+ months at a time (rarely have a use for it) and it's clear and flavorless the whole time.

It's really only >36mg/ml that needs to be in the freezer for long term storage. It's still not a bad idea to store your base that way if it's convenient. The fridge is also a viable alternative for that concentration.

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by cloudJRabout 5 years ago

So I was thinking I’d just pull a liter and toss it into the fridge right before I need it and when I do I’d just store it into a closed cabinet until it’s gone then onto the next one. Do you think that’s a fine strategy to use instead of breaking each liter down into let’s say 120ml bottles? Thanks for your help!!

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by Apexifiedabout 5 years agoThe Kingmaker

That's what I'd do :)

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by babepandaabout 5 years ago

Split them into smaller tight-sealed glass jars (I got mine from dollar store/99c store) and place them into ziploc bags, then straight to the freezer. Whenever I need to make a batch, I take 1 jar out and leave at room temperature the night before. My Nicotine River salt nicotine smooth has been working like that for almost 1.5 years now.

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by nvmenotfoundabout 5 years ago

it's actually better to not freeze your nic. just as long as it's capped and oxygen and light can't get to it, it should be fine at room temp for quite some time. i've had mine like that for 2 years and it's still fine. one of the best nic companies also recommends not freezing nic IIRC (carolina xtracts)

edit: yeah i just looked again and here is the quote from their FAQ section:

"Should I store Nicotine Products in the freezer?

No, Absolutely not. Damage can occur to100MG/ML nicotine products when oxides form during near-freeze/thaw cycles caused by temperature fluctuations of some freezer units (but not all). Such fluctuations are typically caused by opening the freezer door and outside weather affecting the efficiency of the unit. Typical refrigeration temperatures, or even room temperatures are a much safer storage range than 27-33F because they are well away from freeze/thaw potential."

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by ageinggracefullylolabout 5 years ago

Hi. So i am totally confused now as even the place i purchased my Nic 100mg/ml from said to freeze in amber bottles. This is just Nic

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by nvmenotfoundabout 5 years ago

well the info i provided is from ppl that actually make the nicotine so i'd trust their information a bit more if you're asking me. regardless i bought nicotine when i got into DIY (couple years ago) and that's been my only purchase. it was 100MG/ML and i got a little more than i probably should have without realizing how much i would use daily. i transferred it into smaller 30 or 60ml amber bottles with regular (non-dropper) caps and stored them @ room temperature in a dark closet until i needed to use them. then i just drop grab one and pop a dropper into it and i'm good to go. my point is that i've yet to notice any difference in the nicotine. take that for what it's worth, just figured i'd share my experience. i merely figured i'd pass along the best information i could.

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by kurplop666about 5 years ago

The more diluted the nicotine is the longer the shelf life. If you have 3mg VG base it will last a long time. Just keep it away from heat and light. Freezing and thawing can introduce condensation which will ruin it for sure.

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by tet5uoabout 5 years ago

Fridge is better than the freezer, but you don't really need it if your house has AC and you have it in proper glass bottles and keep it from light.

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by ageinggracefullylolabout 5 years ago

Thanks that's great to know. Now it won't take up so much room in the freezer when I transfer it into amber bottles tomorrow.

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