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Actual shelf life of nicotine
submitted about 5 years ago by lvl5Loki

With the upcoming regulations and expected tax on nicotine in planning on buying 2 liters of nicotine. This will last me at least 15yrs.

My plan is to keep everything in the freezer except a 60ml bottle, that will be refilled with the nicotine from the freezer, that will be kept in a drawer with my flavorings.

I know that a bottle is listed to have a shelf life of a year but know of people getting much longer than a year from a bottle. But realistically how long will the nicotine last before it goes bad?

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by Barbarakeabout 5 years ago

I have a bottle of 100 mg/ml nicotine in PG that's been in the freezer for over seven and a half years. Still perfectly clear, use some a couple months ago and it was absolutely fine.

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by lvl5Lokiabout 5 years ago

That's great. I'm hoping that I'll have enough to keep vaping until they get their heads out of their asses and have reasonable legislation.

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by 50kentabout 5 years agoExtractor

> reasonable legislation

Haha good one

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by lvl5Lokiabout 5 years ago

I know I thought it was a good joke too.

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by jasone414about 5 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I told someone not too long ago that you could reasonably expect nic to last at least 8 years in the freezer and they said that I was crazy.

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 5 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

You don't want to refill from a freezer bottle. Nicotine doesn't like being subjected to constant temp changes. Split into smaller glass bottles and take one out as needed.

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by apocalypticdiynewbabout 5 years ago

That's how I've been doing it and works out great. Divide my 1L down into separate 60ml amber bottles with polycone caps and keep one working bottle out. Pull the next bottle out when my current working bottle is almost empty.

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by memphistwoabout 5 years ago

What mg of nic do you suggest when just starting out? 48? 100?

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by apocalypticdiynewbabout 5 years ago

I prefer 100mg in pg for sure. It's more cost effective and makes it easier to make high vg blends.

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by MaltaMaltaMaltaMaltaabout 5 years ago

Last question, nicotine is something you Should get before it’s too late but does any see the flavors and other elements of making juice becoming a hard to get item?

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by lvl5Lokiabout 5 years ago

I don't see anything other than nicotine being hard to get since they have applications outside of vaping.

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by Rassettajaabout 5 years ago

Here in finland where all flavors but tobacco are banned and you can only get 10ml of 20mg nic base (basically a nic shot) for 8€ everything else is still easy to get so i wouldn't worry about it.

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by lvl5Lokiabout 5 years ago

The biggest thing is in the USA they are planning on taxing nicotine at ridiculous rates. 100mg/ml is going to be very expensive.

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by MaltaMaltaMaltaMaltaabout 5 years ago

Where do you guys buy the nicotine? Also is bought just as nicotine, better mixed with pg or vg?

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by glazedhamsterabout 5 years ago

Check the sidebar under "Vendors." Personally I use Liquid Barn but there are many good options.

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by freeWeedForSlackersabout 5 years ago

You're best off buying it in a propylene glycol solution. I'm not sure if it's kosher to source around here but someone will hook you up if it is.

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by MaltaMaltaMaltaMaltaabout 5 years ago

That’s fair but hopefully it’s kosher because I’m trying to get my shit together before it’s too late

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by freeWeedForSlackersabout 5 years ago

I feel ya man, can I ask what country you're in?

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by lvl5Lokiabout 5 years ago

I get mine suspended in PG. The last bottle I bought from Liquid Nicotine Wholesalers has been really good. I always bought from Ecigexpress until they stopped selling nicotine because of the Washington state regulations. There nicotine was pretty good.

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by mikenite69about 5 years ago

I just got myself a bottle from liquid nicotine wholesalers as well and I couldn't be happier with the product. For one they ship way faster than river does and the nicotine is way smoother for me and the price wasn't bad either it cost me like 58 dollars and change shipped for a liter and they shipped it pretty quickly unlike riversupply where you can wait up to 5 days and I always like how they Vacuum sealed the bag it was shipped in.

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by memphistwoabout 5 years ago

Any idea how lnw compares to lb cnt?

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by lvl5Lokiabout 5 years ago

No idea. I've only bought from LNW and ECX

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by MaltaMaltaMaltaMaltaabout 5 years ago

Do you store flavors in the freezer too or can they sit out in a dark place and be fine?

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by lvl5Lokiabout 5 years ago

I've always kept my flavors in a drawer and in 2 and a half years I've never had a problem. I keep large amounts of nicotine in a freezer to keep it longer.

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by apocalypticdiynewbabout 5 years ago

It's best to just leave flavors at room temp. There are quite a few that separate and get weird at cold temps in a fridge. Can't imagine what a freezer would do to them.

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by Eevurskinabout 5 years ago

We are having the same regulations in Finland. The regulations came into effect in 06/2018. I have been storing nicotine since then in my freezer. Im pretty sure that PG nicotine will last longer than VG. I don't know if this trick has any particular effect on the nicotine, but I prefer to re-seal the bottle with aluminium foil. The freezer gets opened regulary and I don't want to expose my nicotine to air.

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by Skyttlzabout 5 years ago

What upcoming regulation is this!l?

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by otrogueroabout 5 years ago

Pmta in the US

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by Passanabout 5 years ago

The vapepocalypse

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by mikenite69about 5 years ago

Maybe he is talking about Pmta's and Bans that are popping up on a weekly basis.

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by [deleted]about 5 years ago

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by MaltaMaltaMaltaMaltaabout 5 years ago

Usa

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by delancey517about 5 years ago

I keep all my nic in the freezer. I have a 1L bottle and a 30mL dropper that i use to mix. I take the dropper out of the freezer a half hour before mixing and it works fine. Whenever the dropper runs low I refill it with the big bottle. I haven’t had any problems, though it has only been 4 years so far

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by mixsomniaabout 5 years ago

Nic goes bad pretty damn fast in PG at room temperature

I recommend you mix like a few hundred mls of flavourless at a time and keep that in your drawer instead

i Make 70/30 or 70/20 flavourless then all I have to do is add flavours and pour in smaller bottles, it really speeds things up

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by lvl5Lokiabout 5 years ago

I've kept a 60ml bottle at room temp for mixing for the 2yrs I've been mixing. That 60ml lasts me around 6 months. I've never noticed a difference.

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by mixsomniaabout 5 years ago

That's surprising when i tried it went bad in weeks your call but mixing big batches of flavorless still saves alot of time and they last years

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by lvl5Lokiabout 5 years ago

I know I could streamline my mixing process in many ways. Just right now it works for me and switching it up would require a larger purchase than I can afford right now.

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by moto4shoabout 5 years ago

i have 100mg pg nic divided into 30ml bottles and in the freezer for over 4 years, no problems. I try not to leave any air in the bottle.

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by [deleted]about 5 years ago

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by Saintz-WDabout 5 years ago

I have nic in freezer vacuum sealed and argon gas sealed in glass canning jars that is going on almost 10 years. I test my nic for strength before use and it has dropped from 100mg/ml to 97. It is crystal clear. I suggest you use a test kit when storing nic long term. You can test for peppery taste by dilution in unflavored juice. That will also let you know if it has gone bad.

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by lvl5Lokiabout 5 years ago

I never thought to get test strips

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