As always, the purpose of this thread is to gather the community to explore a category of flavor and its many uses. And it's also to have FUN!
Post recipes containing this week's Flavor of the Week, as the star or in a supporting role, with or without development notes. Talk about other people's recipes that use it. Compare and contrast different manufacturers' versions of the FOTW. Ask for help using that flavor in general or to achieve something specific, offer advice, brainstorm ideas, consider substitutions, suggest pairings... really anything at all as long as it's on topic.
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#This week's flavor is... MARY JANE!
#Please note:
This is about marijuana-flavored concentrates. Not THC vaping. Flavors such as FA Reggae Nights, TFA Mary Jane, TFA Cannabis Type, Euro Flavors Amsterdam, and Tasty Puff Sweet Leaf, to name a few. So be a real grass act and keep your THC talk elsewhere.
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It was requested!
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#In case you missed it, last week's FOTW was: Elderflower
#Next week's flavor will be: Walnut
The week after that will be: Watermelon
The week after that will be: Bavarian Creams
The week after that will be: Syrup Delivery Systems (Pancakes, Waffles, French Toast)
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The week after that will be: FOTQ2 (New Hotness)
The week after that will be: Cheesecake
The week after that will be: Chocolate Milk/Milk Chocolate
The week after that will be: Tobacco Time: Sweet Stuff
The week after that will be: Cones
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The week after that will be: Fruity Cereal
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The week after that will be: Pumpkin
The week after that will be: Cranberry
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The week after that will be: ??? You decide ???
I have nothing to contribute on this FOTW so I will tell funny story about marijuana in Japan. It has been a while since I have used it and propagated it so I’m not current with the law now but you can buy seeds and grow it legally and it’s only illegal when it flowers, making THC. Weird, yeah?
We are funny country. Same with nicotine law and vaping. Legal to use and import but illegal to be sold B&M. WTF?
Wow, that makes me wish to live there even more. You can get a really potent tea from the leaves without ever letting flowers grow lol
Tea is different unless you’re talking about magic mushrooms. In my teenage years magic mushrooms could be purchased almost anywhere but now is illegal. So spores can be purchased legally or imported but harvest is illegal. Confusing, yeah?
Tea is not different, in fact! I've read a scientific paper before specifically evaluating brewed vegetation and you get a majority of the resin into the water extracting it through brewing. Resin production is lower on non-flowering parts but it is still found on every outer surface outside of the rootsm
In the US, it's the same situation with magic mushrooms. You can buy the spores legally, but once the mushrooms grow it's illegal.
Oh, I didn’t know that.
last time I ate them was from an Australian friend. He just had them in a bag, lol. They tasted like shit, not cow shit, like pure bitter taste. It was a good times on a cruise ship with four decks and different music on the first three. Really hard speedy techno on the bottom deck, smooth mellow psy trance on the second deck, and like house music on the third, the top of the ship was just open for chill out, drinking booze or water and throw up from sea sickness haha
That seems really cool for a trip. I always did them out in the garage with friends and different light setups.
Taste sounds about right too. Best descriptor would be athlete foot or gym bag taste. And honestly they're just as bad fresh. I would mix up the diced fresh ones in a shot of straight lemon juice.
u/ID10-T, I know you are tortured regularly in the pursuit of the FOTW: we much appreciate it and I continue to pray for your sanity. But I'm a bit sadistic and enjoy your titles :)
I've never even thought about mixing a cannabis flavored vape, so this is going to be interesting.
Made the mistake of trying TFA Mary Jane once. It was like vaping one of those tree-shaped, pine scented air fresheners while driving past a dead skunk.
Oh god it's so bad lol. Probably one of the worst single flavors I've tried followed closely by TFA Chicken and Waffles. That says a lot because we used to have like 1500 different concentrates when mixing.
MJ and hops (yes beer hops) are closely related. IDK what else to share except I would hope you all have fun experimenting!!!!!
too bad you can not really use those terpenes used in cartridges in eliquids or atleast i was not able to get it right
Did you try cannabis derived terps or just a random blend where they try to approximate the real thing?
I have nothing to add, as all the flavors in that family I have tried have been pretty bad. Ranging from straight up pine tree, to dirt mixed with some rancid off notes.
But I can't wait to watch this episode :)
It sounds like you're referring to FA Reggae Nights and TFA Mary Jane
There's probably not going to be much useful info on this week's Noted - but there ought to be some good one liners. I wonder if any of them can top this -> Cheeba's Advice
hahahahahahahahaha
I cannot fathom a situation where these, even if they are accurate, could legitimately enhance a mix.
Then again, I haven't tried any of the Mary Jane flavors, assuming one or more is grossly inaccurate it could be a sneaky good thing.
Never tried any actual "Mary Jane" flavors .. butt!To me FLV Guanabana tastes like crappy hashish .. like earthy, dirty, mossy, piney nasty stuff. Like licking the ground of an old forest, and then lighting your tongue on fire.
Blasphemy! FLV Guanabana is life. It tastes like everything that is good and bright and tropical and wet.
...Did you get a bad batch?!
it wouldnt be too brazen to say that i live with and off weed for its the only medicine that helps. and yes, i as well use it as "creativity enhancer" but only the fresh and hip ones. now seriously, for insomnia its pretty much the best thing you can have thats actually applicable, as scientific studies have proven.
downers to get stoned isnt much of my thing. i love the citric green and the deep lush brown, and ofc the oily black gems, but cant seem to think that cannabis works as flavor... the TFA tastes like meadow... i challenge you setting up a recipie that would come close to ANY of the following:
joint, bong, pipe, chillom, or even pure... either weed or solid, brown or black - or even a "wax-inhaler" taste - its gonna be like cherry: somehow something alike, but ultimately meh!
guess im too addicted to the real thing, and really have developed some tongue for the various tastes of the many different types (others develop taste for wine, some for tobacco or teas) so im not expecting much from this one, but im looking forward to hear what you guys got to say ;)
what Failyx2 says: "This is stupid. I like stupid."
I don’t think i’ll ever vape cannabis flavors. I’ve done my fair share of using it the old skool way back in my late teens/early 20s, being from The Netherlands and all. But now that i’m halfway in my 30s, nah i’ll pass (it to the lefthand side)
Noted Ep. 158: MARY JANE (ft. Hex)
(Episode aired on 7th July 2020)
FLV Yakima Hops: Kind of tastes like an herbal tea with citrus. Bright, mildly floral. Pine-y top note. Not full on pine tree, but pine-y in the same way some mangos are pine-y. Some vague, somewhat refreshing citrus notes. That citrus note is petty prominent. A little earthiness, but a pleasant, bright earthiness. Nice body. Thick and robust. Has a depth for something that's so bright. It's not nearly as bitter as hops actually are. But has a little bitterness. Gives a lot of body and depth to a recipe. A really interesting accent to all sorts of mixes. Works really well in a hopped apple cider. A good starting point for a beer. 6.08
Tasty Puff Puffy Le Pew: Really disgusting. Tastes like a dead skunk?! Also the worst parts of the worst coffee flavours. Strong chemical cleaner taste and smell. 10.27
TFA Cannabis Type: Supposed to be an improvement on TFA Mary Jane, but is mostly a remarkably accurate lemon scented Pine Sol of with some grassy-ness. The same grassy note that is in TFA Mary Jane. It's a little bit sweet. 14.31
Tasty Puff Sweet Leaf: One of the more authentic cannabis flavours this week. But ID10-T also found it pretty gross. Soft pine-y, grassy top note. Kind of accurate. The bad it thick and almost sickeningly sweet with a skunky, nasty, cheap dirt weed taste. Missing the high, citrus-y, terp-y or aromatic floral notes. Also has a bit of a chemical off note, like the smell of opening a new pack of printer paper. Makes it taste more artificial and combined with all the sweetness it Tested like a terrible, artificial weed flavoured candy. Tested at 3% 16.28
FA Reggae Night: Doesn't taste like weed. But it's crisp kind of refreshing. Clear juniper note up front, very similar to gin. Sticky, resin-y pine and a slight citrus note behind that. With a little bit of grass clippings in the background. A little sweetness on the finish. Sticky body. It's weird, but could maybe be usable in some like an abstract mix? A little reminiscent of FA Zen Garden, although not nearly as dry and doesn't have the prominent basil note that ZG has. 18.50
TFA Mary Jane: Has a reputation as being lawn clippings and awful. Not as bad as it been made it to be. Maybe they tried it too high? Like gross, cheap weed where the seeds and stems haven't been picked out. Clear pine-y top note. The body is herbal, but not fresh. Kind of like dried seasoning. Kind of woody. Has a warmth, almost a medicinal quality. Not very skunky. Just pine-y, dried oregano-ish herb and woody. No citrus-y notes. If used low it could maybe emulate the slight weed flavour of an edible? Like a brownie, a cookie or a gummy recipe? Maybe if going for a brownie use CAP Fudge Brownie? Reminiscent of FA Zen Garden, even more so than FA Reggae Nights. It's kind of dry, similar savoury taste, woody. Zen Garden is a bit cleaner and not so weird. Tested at 2%. Plenty of flavour. 24.24
Tasty Puff Sweet Leaf Blends:
Tasty Puff has blends where they use their Sweet Leaf, which isn't that great, and mix it with other flavours.
Tasty Puff Sweet Haze: TP Sweet Leaf mixed with TP Purple Haze, which is lavender and vanilla. Like rolling a blunt with a dryer sheet. The most prominent flavour is a lavender-ish floral. Tested a lot like dryer sheets. The skunky-ness and the vanilla are barely detectable. A little pine-y, possibly perceivable as weed, with the chemical, copier paper off note that the Sweet Leaf has. Accentuates the dryer sheet feel of the lavender. Smooth, full flavoured. Almost a creamy texture. But overall gross. if you did want to vape this profile would be better off mixing INW Purple Rain, FLV Yakima Hops and a touch of TFA Mary Jane. 29.43
Tasty Puff Pineapple Daze: Sweet Leaf mixed with pineapple. Not a lot of the Sweet Leaf. But the chemical, copier paper off note is still present, even if nothing else of the Sweet Leaf is. The pineapple over powers it. Not a great pineapple, kind of candied. 32.18
Tasty Puff Sweet Pine Haze: Pretty terrible. TP Sweet Leaf blended with TP Purple Haze and TP Pineapple Daze. Pineapple express, dryer sheet wrapped blunt. Still has the floral, dryer sheet quality. But with a sweeter, fruitier base. The pineapple is a bit sharp and acidic on top and combined with the dryer sheet floral it makes it a bit harsh too. The base is just pineapple candy. Pineapple is petty overpowering in this blend as well. If you wanted to recreate this profile could use INW Purple Rain, FLV Yakima Hops, maybe a touch of TFA Mary Jane (around 0.75%) and a better pineapple. VT Sugar Loaf Pineapple would go well with that combination of flavours. Would probably be pretty good. 33.34
Tasty Puff Calypso Leaf: Supposed to be TP Sweet Leaf with hints of coconut and lemon lime. Hex liked it, but it didn't taste anything like weed. More like a spice. Could probably work in an autumnal tobacco mix? ID10-T thought the coconut is pretty good. Got a thick and creamy, coconutty finish. Hex didn't get any coconut. The pine comes though a bit, but tastes strange paired with the citrus and coconut Tested at 3% and 4 or 5% 36.22
Tasty Puff Island Leaf: TP Sweet Leaf blended with TP Tropical. The balance is off. Very little of the Sweet Leaf. Mostly tastes like a really rich, thick coconut. No suntan lotion. More of a nice coconut cream. Natural tasting deep, creamy banana. Indistinguishable tart fruitiness in the top note. Similar kind of tartness to kiwi, strawberry or pineapple. A little pine in the top note, but that's pretty much all of the Sweet Leaf that's present. TP Tropical seems like it would be really good, but TP only sell it as a finished e-juice, not as a concentrate. Is a bit reminiscent of FLV Guanabana. 39.40
Hop Along Sally by Ediblemalfunction (ATF): A 123 recipe - 3% TFA Honeysuckle, 2% FLV Yakima Hops, 1% CAP Sweet Tangerine. 42.54
EUR (Euro Flavors) Amsterdam: Has a little bit of a grass clippings note at 4%, but manageable. Could be covered. Nice green, herb-y flavour. Smokey note. Interesting flavour. Tested at 4% 45.39
IPA Smoke by Matthewkocanda (ATF) 47.37
Chrysalis by Ediblemalfunction (ATF) 52.05
Aura: Forest by CheebaSteeba (ATF) Uses FA Forest Mix with Yakima Hops. Really nice combo. 54.08
When you’ve done some of the flavor profiles, you’d test the food/drink against the accuracy of the vape concentrates. My favorite was the whiskey, will you be doing the same with this? I’d definitely watch that. I’ll watch it anyway, I look forward to it. I do have a question about a flavor profile coming up, the syrup delivery one, will you include crepes with that? Just curious. ✌️
Had a mmj card in a couple states and loved the edibles. If I was gonna get back into it a butter making machine is the way to go.
Mj as a flavor was always whatever to me. Not sure though how I'd use those mj flavors in vape recipes.
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from what i've understood flavors intended to taste like cannibis taste like dirt or shit. the only reliable way i've read about (since i am not brave enough to drop the money on it) is through terpenes.
Linalool (floral citrus), Limonene (citrus) , Pinene (pine), Myrcene (earthy musk), and Humulene (hops) are all good starting points. you can also order strain specific terps from some places although i can't vouch for any of them, and good god they are expensive. 50ml of a blue dream terpene mix is $400 from TrueBlue. Fuck that noise.
I like cannabis **despite** its flavour. I didn't even know the made e-liquid cannabis flavours, now I've got to try at least one -_-
P.S. this weeks puns are just brilliant. top 3, easily.
I don't partake any more but I remember that back in the day, smoking really good weed out of a clean glass pipe tasted so good.
The last time I encountered fake MJ it was from a guy in a convertible in Maui. This guy was an artist, burlap strands and rolled up leaves and buds from a bush that grows out there. I was experienced and got fooled. I’m not sure if any of the flavors this week can fool people the same way. But I guess you’re gonna tell us.
I’m pretty intrigued to find out if any are actually similar to the real thing. Pretty interesting fotw for sure, glad to see that the quirky flavors are included as well!
Yeah, haven't smoked weed in 10+ years, I have zero urge to want to create a zero THC/CBD flavor. That being said ill check the show out. I came here to thank ID10-T for talking about Trader Joe's Cookie butter and how delicious it is. My girlfriend ordered a jar based on his recommendations and holy bat balls this stuff is delicious. I had to stop my self from just smashing the whole jar with a spoon
It’s insane, right?!? Let me know if you come up with some new fun thing to do with it. If you’re able to resist smashing the rest of the jar with a spoon
So after the weekend I wouldn't say I came up with anything fun or exciting to do with it. I ate it right out of the jar with a spoon and ate it between two pieces of Dave's killer bread. my girlfriend tried it on toast and on a tortilla. I did find a interesting recpie for cookie butter cups, they where like Reese's with cookie butter instead of PB. That would have required another trip to Trader Joe's as it takes the actual speculoos cookies along with the cookie butter, so next trip they are on my list. I'm convinced you could put this on a hot steaming pile of dog crap and it would make it delicious.
Oh the puns. This should've been the flavor of the week for April 20th. The only one I have is FA reggae nights. I tried to mix with it but never had success. Maybe I'll learn me something this here week. Hopefully nobody has police show up inquiring about a suspicious odor.
Also need a spearmint/wintergreen/mint week! I'm still trying to remix sweet mint gum. It was my adv for over 4 yrs & they went out of business. Whole reason I got into diy.
Have you seen this? I don't think much has been added to the spearmint/wintergreen family of flavors since then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ8eTdGV0T8
Try Wonder Flavours Double Mint.
I have that one. Too much peppermint for what I'm trying to make. I'm trying to clone/remix pop vapors sweet mint gum. Was my adv for 4+ yrs. They went out of business around January. Sucks. But now I'm in the wonderful world of diy! & I'm just mad that I didn't take the plunge sooner!
This recipe of mine is the closest to "weed" I have made. It's really a pleasant vape and is more like a basil and juniper flavor with nice body.
Ingredient|% :---|---: Botanical Gin (VTA)|3.50 Hibiscus (CAP)|2.00 Oba Oba (FA)|1.50 Pear (FA)|1.00 Zen Garden (FA)|0.85
Flavor total: 8.85%
What does Sun Cookie taste like? I also would love to try the Cherry Blossom...
It’s got an actual cookie base that does a better job of being a baked good than most of FLV’s other bakeries as it actually has some nice, crispy body to it, but there’s all sorts of weird stuff going on with it. There’s some kind of green nut in here. I’m not sure, but it tastes like the cookie itself is green. Not artificially green, like a very natural, earthy green nut. Not a pistachio, more like sunflower seeds but greener. Extra super organic vegan sunflower seeds? IDK. The cookie base tastes like hippy food, basically. There’s also a pile of tart and sweet natural lemon on top. Like a big pile. So it’s a green nut cookie with handful of lemon zest all over it. And a touch of anise in there will the lemon just to completely ruin it for me.