So I've got a chest freezer coming in this week to store my nicotine and chicken nuggets 🙂 I have 4 liters of 100mg VG nic from River Supply still in the plastic containers wrapped in the plastic bags they were shipped in.
Are these containers suitable for long, long term storage? Using the vccalc calculator, my nic could last 10-12 years. Or should I transfer it to 100ml amber Boston Round bottles? Also, how easy is it to purge the bottles with argon?
So I have more nic than you do actually, stored in a freezer, in 4oz amber glass jars. The cost of the jars or bottles is trivial. I'd suggest you locate some pure argon wine preservative to put in the bottles after they are filled. It's a clear gas, so you can't see it. Just a small gentle spray into the containers before capping. It is heavier than air, so it displaces the air and/or creates an invisible barrier so oxygen doesn't touch the nic solution. Oxygen is your actual enemy, it causes the nic solution to turn brown and go bad. One last note, be extremely careful with the jug, the vapor in it when it's empty is extremely dangerous. It can make you very sick from one breath.
> One last note, be extremely careful with the jug, the vapor in it when it's empty is extremely dangerous. It can make you very sick from one breath.
Caution is always a good thing but this is over the top and not true for 100mg/ml nicotine.
I hope you get an answer. I have been wondering the same thing. Like is freezing absolutely necessary? If it is in a very cool room away from the light in it's original container not enough for long term storage?
I do know that it's absolutely necessary to freeze it if you don't expect to use it in about a year or so, maybe two. My question is more about the material of the storage container.
Plastic containers do allow air to get into the liquid over time, which will oxidize the nic and render it unusable. Some plastics allow it in faster than others, and amber Boston Round is best. I'm just wondering if it's worth it to break the seal on my plastic containers to do it 🙂
If your not planning on using all your nic in the plastic containers in the few months, yes it's worth transferring it into amber glass bottles. Ultimately it's your call but many mixers and the nicotine manufacturers recommend amber bottles for longterm storage.
Damn, I was hoping I would't have to buy glass bottles. Thank you.
If you get them in bulk, they are dirt cheap, 40 bucks or so. The smaller bottles just make it easier handling it and keeping track of the quantity long term.
Thank you! Any recommendations on sites that sell them?
These are the bottles I ordered, they worked really well and were inexpensive. If you have any questions or problems feel free to message me. :)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N9K1GO1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
> nicotine and chicken nuggets
Hmm...how can you be old enough to use nicotine without being too old to use chicken nuggets?
Everyone talks about amber bottles what about the blue ones it's not like light gets into a freezer
I've had nicotine river basic plastic 120ml in the freezer 3 years and still tastes fine to me. I read after a year it'd go bad but no issues whatsoever on taste or effectiveness.
>Its all about oxygen transfer rate in the material. See this. Plastic Barriers Properties Comparison
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>Glass is the best with 0 0^(2) transfer. PET is next at 60. Color, Blue, Green, Amber etc all block UV rays so having in a freezer is irrelevant and you can use clear if you wanted unless you are going to take it out and stare it it on a shelf all day :-)
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>If you were to fill the smaller bottles to the rim and cap you don't need any noble gas. in-fact if you stop just short of the rim there is so minor oxygen in the bottle that there will be no noticeable oxidation. Oxygen is used up during the reaction so once it reached its end-point no more oxidation occurs until you re-open the bottle and let more in.
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>The easiest way for plastic, original PET bottles is to squeeze the bottle to raise the liquid then cap then store.
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>Our recommendation for long-term storage has always been to use glass if possible but break down your stash into the smallest manageable units that make sense. If you have a gallon, break down to 3 Liters, then 1 500mL, then a couple 120mL as an example. Filling them to the rim, means you are only working with a small portion of your stash at any one time. When your 120's are empty, break open a 500 and down-size it into the 120's or some 250's so you keep pushing down the volume wile keeping the air out.
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>short of a gloved box vacuum chamber, or argon to flush the headspace each time this method seems to work very well.
I just recently had this same situation even ordered from nic river :). I got the glass amber bottles and transfer it before putting them into the freezer. Its a lot safer and easier and will keep much better than the bottle that it came in. I am about to post a video of what I did if you would like I would be glad to send you a link when I get it posted. If there is anything else you would like a video on, or any help I would be glad to help just let me know. Best of luck and Happy Vaping!!! :)