I’ve perused the FAQ’s but clearly I am new and this shit is confusing as hell.
I’ve got a nic base that’s 50/50 PG/VG and a bunch of TFA flavors. I understand that working with a 50/50 base will make it more PG after adding flavor...if I add regular VG to that would I be able to lean it more toward the VG side?
I’ve got lots of coils less than 1.0ohm and from my understanding you need juices with a higher VG for coils less than 1.0? I understand adding VG would dilute the nicotine content, but I’d rather have better PG/VG ratios I suppose. I don’t even know plz help lol 😩
Hi! Please have a look at the sidebar. There’s an entire section dedicated to ejuice calculators. I assume you have stock coils. Your PG/VG ratio really depends on the hardware you are using (pod or subohm tank?). Pods usually do well with a ratio of 50/50 or 60/40 (VG/PG), whereas subohm tanks like 70/30, sometimes 80/20 ratios. Lower Watt devices need thinner juice to keep up with the wicking, ergo 50/50 to avoid dry hits.
There‘s a lot more useful information to be found in the FAQs on the sidebar. Good luck.
Read the FAQ. If you want to make juice with a high level of nic salts, what you need to buy is 100mg/ml nic salts in either 100% VG or 50/50. Then you also need to buy separate VG and PG. Use a juice calculator to tell you how much of each to use. There are stand alone calculators or recipe websites that have them and they are listed in the FAQ as well. The nic that you have you can use, but only mix at 12mg max, or it will be very harsh. Your best bet is to use that to make your 6mg juice. You will probably have to buy some PG also. You can also check out the diy Dischord. We have a "check my order please" room there so you can avoid making mistakes and buying the wrong stuff in the future. Always look at recipes before ordering flavors, and do not use 99 recipes.
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Not sure if it was clear, but I did indeed purchase stand alone VG (no nicotine) so I can use it to add and mess with the ratios. I just have no idea how to do the math on the whole shabang.
Say you want to make 100ml of e-liquid. You add your flavors ( I don’t know what recipes you are using or at what percentage, let’s say you are mixing at 10% and all of your flavors are PG based ), then you have 10ml of PG.
Then you add nic, depending on the strength of your nicotine base and the desired strength of your eliquid. Let’s say you have a 20mg/ml strength and want a juice with 4mg/ml nic. You will need to add 20ml so the total amount of nic is 400mg/100ml or 4mg/ml.
Since your nic base is 50/50, of the 20ml you added 10ml is PG and 10ml is VG. That brings the total to 20ml PG and 10ml VG.
If you now add 70ml of pure VG, you will get a 20PG/80VG eliquid. The nicotine ratio isn’t diluted because you just calculate how much you want.
Now if this all seems a bit too hard or crazy, use an e-liquid calculator (there are a lot on the internet).
Yeah I ended up fucking around with the math myself and figuring out some stuff on paper that way, but are most juices more like 10% flavor or more like 20%? I can’t really find any good recipes with the current flavors I’ve got, so I was planning to experiment, but I wasn’t sure what mix percent I should start at?
I’m starting to confuse myself over here. I’m having trouble with the online calculators because, while some allow me to input that I’ve got a 50/50 base, if I select that I want say-70/30 for the final pg/VG ratio, when it spits out the calculations it seems totally messed up and the percentages equal more than 100...idk of that makes any sense. Basically it doesn’t seem like it can compute, as it’s not accounting for the fact that I’ve got separate VG to add into the mix? I could be totally wrong, but if you’ve got advice for a calculator that will specifically work for calculations with a 50/50 base and still allow me to make the final product high VG, plz explain lol
It's worth while looking at the e-liquid-recipes site. Create a free account, and then create a recipe. Ignore the top bit, go for add flavours and start typing it in, making sure to select the right brand of it. It'll come up with recommended flavour percentage.
More often than not, on the website you buy the flavourings from it'll show suggested percentages as well. But they are just a guide. I tend to add more with the apple when I'm doing a plain apple menthol as that's the way I like it.
Note, if you're experimenting. Don't make a ton of it. Make like 10-30 mls first, otherwise you will waste your base, nicotine etc if it's not good.
And if it's not good first time, throw it in a cupboard for a week or so and try again. Some really do need to steep.
Every recipe is different, there are recipes with as low as 3% flavor that are really good, all the way up to around 20/25%. It depends on what flavors you use and what you are mixing it with. I would suggest trying some recipes that are known to be good instead of mixing some random flavors together. Making your own recipes is the result of understanding different flavor profiles and trying them at different percentages, in different mixes at different pg/vg ratios,... It takes a lot of knowledge, so I would advise sticking to already created recipes for now.
I think there are some good calculators in the sidebar? I don’t really know, I always calculate my ratio’s on paper.
I seemed to be figuring it all out, but my brain is starting to stall and I feel that I am thinking in circles now 😂
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Don't buy 50/50 base just make your own in the future
You don't need high VG for less than 1 ohm coils at all
small devices usually need more PG and struggle with anything higher than 70/30 and they happen to have coils over 1 ohm generally so it depends what your using to vape
Good to know. I’ve got a couple different pod systems, and the coils for each are around 0.7 resistance. Guess I’ll just have to do some tinkering. I usually use 50/50 juices so maybe I should just start there for now. Mostly got lower resistance so I could get a stronger throat hit and I find I like the pull better that way
What mg nicotine is your base? What's your target nic strength? How much juice are you planning to make in a batch?
I usually vape salt nic, so I’m just now realizing that I only have regular nicotine liquid base, hence now I’m unsure how strong I should make it. I usually buy 30mg bottles, but I’m assuming if I’m making regular eliquid and NOT salt liquid, I can’t make it nearly as strong or it would be completely harsh, yeah?
That's correct, the regular nic that you have is called freebase. 12mg is about the limit for freebase nic without it being too harsh. That's why we have a very exhaustive FAQ, and we have recommended reading. It's best to read all that stuff before you make your first order to avoid making mistakes when purchasing supplies.
-1. Look at the nicotine you have. Tell us what nicotine you have, we need to know to help you, i normally use 36mg VG 100ml or 500ml. -2. Go to google search for steam engine juice or ejuice calculator. Steam engine i use start with your bottle size i do it 2 ways so, start with 30ml bottle select mix by weight. Enter 30ml in the target size. -3. Add a flavour i mix most of my single flavours at 5% -4. Now you need to know some stuff enter the nicotine that you have enter it into the nicotine that you have. Mine is 36mg 100% vg -5. Now you need to know what type of ejuice you want. I personally use 3mg to 2.5mg ejuice for two reasons. I was a light smoker And im now a chain vaper. If you want direct lung juice 3mg is great If you want mouth to lung, if you are a light smoker 6mg and you can go up all the way to 18mg. -6. Then you enter the ratio that you are aiming for 8020 or 7030. Then when you are done entering all that it will give you a weight and a ml guide i mix by weight.
I must confess i after mixing a few months i want the easyest way out. I take a big empty 5lt bottle Add 100ml 36mg nic vg Add 100ml pg Add 1lt vg Mix it all together shake it up good Leave it to sit then just weight the flavour and add the base.
I’ve got a 125ml bottle of 36mg nicotine, it is pre-mixed, 50VG/PG. I’m trying to make a juice that is at least 70/30. Not sure about how much nicotine to put, as I’m usually vaping 25-30 mg salt liquids, I guess when I was vaping regular E-Juices I usually got a 6.
There are calculators to help you out, but it's also nice to be able to do the math yourself. Don't over complicate it, it really is as simple as it sounds.
Using random numbers, say you have 10 mL of 50/50 liquid, that's 5 mL PG and 5 mL VG.
If you add 3 mL PG (flavors) you now have 8 mL PG and 5 mL VG and a total of 13 mL. (8/13) * 100 = 62 so the juice is 62PG/38VG.
Add 3 mL of VG, you now have 8 mL PG and 8 mL VG and a total of 16 mL. (8/16) * 100 = 50 so the juice is again 50/50. Just think of it in the simplest terms.