Since we had some issue with the broadcasting with tonights Noted episode about teas, I figured I should share my notes. We apologise for the techical difficulties we had the first half hour of the show.
I'll go from worst to best in the categories of "others", "iced- and sweet teas", "chai tea", "green tea" and "black tea".
Keep in mind I don't have all flavors on the market, but I did manage to collect 19 flavors of this and that, which I believe should be useful for someone.
Please remind, that these are notes I wrote during my flavor testings. I didn't go as deep into them as I would with a review. I might not share the same opinion as my co-hosts and therefor these notes shouldn't be seen as the overall opinion of the rest of the Noted crew.
In advance I apologise for any typos!
Here goes:
Others:
- WR Bubble Peach Tea: I fail to find the tea in this. I simply can't pin point any tea. I find can a dull peach that at least brings some sweetness, a little tapioca which is also fine and then a hit of menthol, which I would have liked to be without. I assume it was added as cooling, but it's menthol! But where are the goddamn tea?!
- FA Cornish Cream Tea: Now, a cornish cream tea is more of a sensation of a meal, rather than a tea. The phrases stems from UK and is actually consisting of tea, scones, jam and clotted cream. When that is said, this is more heavy on a white tea and I pick up some notes of yeast, oats and cream. The white tea is there in the back, but up front you get a lot of oats and yeast. So this is probably more suited for a dessert than an actual tea. Although, I know there are things such as oat or wheat tea, where this could come in handy. I'd prefer it a little stronger tea though.
- LB Cherry Blossom Tea: It's a full on floral cherry blossom and the tea is very, very subtle. I wouldn't have picked up the tea, if I didn't know it was there. That's how subtle it is. Good cherry blossom - and by blossom, I do mean blossom NOT a cherry, despite a minimal plastic note. But that's about it.
- MB Lychee & Dragon Fruit Premium Green Tea: Floral, slight bubble gum taste from the dragon fruit, little bit of green tea. Not picking up a world of lychee in it. Detect a little sweetness, which I assume are the lychee. It's nothing spectacular, but nothing terrible or bad to say. Would like a little stronger green tea.
- FLV Red Tea: FLV Red Tea is supposed to be a south african rooibos. However, South Africa will not allow anyone to call their tea a rooibos, unless it comes from the special rooibos plant found in South Africa. This flavor I don't see fit for a sweet beverage. I can find far better tea flavors for that. However, FLV Red Tea would excel great for tobaccos and booze, due to its excellent work with darker and more wooded notes along with rich vanilla flavors. The higher you go with this, the harsher it'll get and you'll find notes of licorice in it. Use this one low, if you don't want to it to be too harsh. It does have a nice round tea note to it, somewhere behind all the deep spices.
Iced- and sweet teas:
- TFA Sweet Tea: Slightly sweet, slightly plasticness. Not a whole lot of florals. Rather boring. This is the kind of tea you'd find in an iced tea. No deep floral dark notes of tea, that lingers in your mouth and making it all cozy and warm. It's so light that you can push this to 10% with no issues. Sadly, the lack of dark and deep tea notes makes it very boring and uninspiring.
- FA Lemon Iced Tea: I detect some deep earthy notes in this with an almost rich bitter tea. There's a hint of lemon too, as advertised on the label. It's not an overpowering lemon and it aren't sweet either. It's a kind of bitter lemon. Could benefit from other teas, sweeter lemons, but overall it's alright. There's a tiny amount of cooling in it that lingers a little on your tongue. Not bad. This is pretty close to a real lemon tea, not that commercial Nestea bullshit.
- FW Iced Tea: Much like FA Lemon Iced Tea, deep earthy notes with a bitter flavor of tea. Again, no sweetness so pretty close to an actual tea. This one doesn't have any cooling in it as far as I can tell, but would be an alright base for any iced tea recipe. Little bit of a plastic off-note, but I'm sure that can get covered up.
Chai:
- TFA Chai Tea: Instant powdered chai tea, with heavy notes of clove, cardamom and allspice. Essentially not a bad flavor, but it's not a tea. I find zero tea notes in this, due to the overpowering of spice. So I'd rather see this as cardamom flavor than a tea. At best can be used as a spice space for a chai tea, and then you'd have to add all of the tea on top of that. If the spice had been less abusive and if there had been an actual note of tea in this, it could have been pretty solid.
- FLV Thai Chai: Thai Chai is not really a tea. It's the spices you'd expect would be in a chai, such as clove, cinnamon and I might pick up a little anise seed and all-spice too. There are some tea notes in the end, but would need a boost from other teas. Good solid ground spice base for a chai.
- CAP Chai Tea: Chai teas comes in all sizes and shapes. CAP Chai tea I would categorize as a spiced chai. It reminds me of a powdered instant chai tea, that you often see in many cafes or can buy at the supermarket. It has a good amount of spice, based on cinnamon, clove and a little anise seed. Lacks a little in the dairy department, but that's easy to fix. Somewhat good amount of actual tea, but it is a bit overpowered by the spice, so for a more natural chai tea, you'd need to add more tea. I'm not picking up anything terrible, but bottom line then this is just an instant chai tea.
Green Tea:
- MB Green Tea: Visible green tea flavor, that doesn't kick you in the balls with earthy notes. Somewhat deep, half-rich and a little chalky. Although, it has the notes of a cheap green tea, that you'd find at shady coffee houses, which does let this down a little bit. I would have appreciated a more rich green tea that would coat my mouth a little more and bring a little more warmth.
- FLV Eisai: As Concreteriver explained in his review of FLV Eisai, this is matcha rather than a green tea. While they do share many of the same flavors, they are still slightly different. FLV Eisai is a fine substitute for a green tea, if you don't have anything else. Or, simply let it work together with another green tea is also an option. Flavorwise it's pretty good. It lacks a little of the deeper tea notes that as an example FLV Green tea has, but it does contain the green leafy taste which they both share. I'd probably use this for deserts and sweets, but has the options for beverages combined with another tea - black or green etc.
- FE Green Tea: One of the better green teas I have tried. It has a nice bitter tea flavor that dances on your tongue. It also has a generous amount of florals, that can be really creative with. Add some honeysuckle, and you'd have yourself a decent sweet green tea. The floral can however turn slightly perfumey, but honestly I'm not bothered by it. Nice floral flavor.
- FLV Green Tea: Very good green tea, although slightly on the mild side. Has some deep notes of the good green tea, but lacks in the floral department. Why by all means doesn't make this bad. Great alternative to any other good solid green tea, if you aren't looking for the perfumey floral note.
Black Tea:
- FAB (Fab Mix) Black Tea: Oh no. When I first smelled this, it smelled fantastic! It smelled like what a good black milk tea taste like. But the flavor is awful. There are barely any black tea in this. But, what we do have a whole lot of is mushroom. Yes, there are a strong note of mushroom as if you're vaping the leftover water after you soaked some dry mushrooms and it's really not pleasent. Chefsflavours dropped the ball with this one, and I'm deeply disappointed.
- VT Black Tea: Earthy bitter note in this, but not an earthy note that I would combine with tea. Tastes a little bit like tree bark. I also pick up some odd hint of sweetness and an odd hint of spice that I can't quite place. Not really a thing I would indentify with black tea either. With a little imagination, I guess there are some tea hidden in there somewhere, but this needs a lot of help from other black teas. Kinda let down.
- FA Black Tea: FA Black tea is a strange one. It's not really terrible, but not the best I have had either. The tea note is visible, but so are the earthy note. Sadly, the earthy note is so deep that it has a pinch taste of mold. It's not really the best black tea you'll find on the market, but an alright substitute if you don't want to cash out for FLV Black tea. To me, you can't really compare them and FLV Black tea is the way to go. FA Black tea is what I would call a second rank black tea, thanks to the moldy earthy note. However, as u/Foment_life explains - to which i agree, it's a very viable and versatile flavor, where the moldy notes I detect disappears the second you add anything else to it.
- FLV Black Tea: Warm, delicious deep notes of chalky black tea. It's round in flavor with an almost dairy texture, without being incredible creamy. It really accompany the round taste greatly. The earthy notes aren't overpowering, but aren't invisible either. Almost perfection. I would like it to be a tad darker in texture, but all around I see it as the best choice of black tea for my sake.
I hope these notes will have some sort of useful information for somebody in our little community.
Thanks for putting your notes up Kitty! I suppose I can throw mine in as well, so... here they are
#Chai
TFA Chai Tea - really ginger forward, similar to ginger ale but with other spices coming in on the exhale, warm cinnamon/allspice and a little bit of clove seem to all come up in the exhale. I don’t really get any tea here. This feels like what you’d pile in on top of a tea base to turn it into chai rather than just being the whole chai tea option. I don’t get any licorice/anise notes here
VT Chai Masala - this is a really nice blend of spices. Not necessarily a strong tea presence but the ginger and cinnamon are most forward with some allspice included without leaning too heavy in any given one direction. I could see this being really useful for a spiced/mulled cider recipe as well as a tea recipe depending on the mixer’s preference
FLV Thai Chai - This is the only chai where the tea is really coming through for me. It’s probably the most balanced of the bunch. Ginger is very mild, cinnamon is forward, there’s a real little bit of clove here that’s coming through in a very pleasant, complementary way
#Green Tea
FA Green Tea - this is fairly accurate to an over-steeped cup of green tea. Bitter, vegetal, generally unpalatable. It is clearly a tea, but it’s tea made kinda wrong.
TFA Green Tea - It’s wet. It’s tea-like, but it’s bland and definitely grassy though. Green tea is pretty mild and this is mild, but it’s mild in the worst way, which is to say it’s flat and boring. I’m not offended by it. It is grassy/vegetal but there’s just very little to it overall.
FLV Green Tea - almost like yerba mate more than green tea. There appears to be a bit of citrus, specifically lemon here as well. I don’t really taste mint so much as it feels like yerba mate with lemon. Grassy, a little bit of dirt. I don’t get any “mint” here, despite Dave mentioning it previously.
FLV Eisai Tea - This is rock solid as a green tea, strongly reminds me of the bottled green teas from lipton or maybe pure leaf.
#Black Tea
TFA Earl Grey Tea - SOFT but very floral, in a very perfumy way. Whatever semblance of tea is here is being very much lost in the floral notes here. I know there’s bergamot in here, that should be the thing you pick up most here, but I’m not really reading any clear defined citrus here.
FLV Black Tea - kind of weaker than I was expecting, there’s a bit of lemon here, this is just sort of something that’s uneven to me. It tastes like a tea of some kind but maybe it’s bordering on an earl grey with the floral and citrus notes. Nothing bitter or oversteeped here, but definitely not a straightforward black tea.
FLV Red Tea - This one is odd, the same hint of floral is behind it like the black and lemon teas but it’s kinda musky and has a touch of something nutty here as well. Maybe leaning toward a walnut, but with the floral and earthy vibe it’s almost unsettling how this comes across the palate.
TFA Earl Grey 2 - less abrasively floral than the OG earl grey (granted at a lower percentage) this one is more agreeable, might be a touch sharper and letting the citrusy elements through.
FLV Lemon Tea - the lemon is on the artificial side and the tea is a touch floral. Almost like someone mashed up a snapple lemon tea with something much more high class. I think the tea body itself could use a bit of help but it’s on track to be useful for building something that really leans into a lemon bottled iced tea.
FW Iced Tea - At its normal use rate, It’s just… bland. Kinda like 4C or lipton powdered tea mix, but not quite sweet enough. At Emily’s behest I pushed it to 9% and it’s rather good at that super high percentage. It definitely finds its groove and can be quite viable if you push it well past the realm of reasonability (much like TFA Sweet tea in that regard) When you take it that high the tea itself becomes more authentic and reminiscent of a proper sun tea. Glass pitcher on the windowsill in the dead of summer kind of tea.
TFA Sweet Tea - at 12% this is very mild. It absolutely is like lipton tea with as much sugar dissolved into it as could be mustered. I have trouble wrestling with anything that needs to be used this high, but it is good at what it does regardless.
SC Black Tea - It’s a sweet tea, but it hits a bit of a floral note to it that feels out of place if you push it past around 3%. If it weren’t for that floral note, and a need to bolster it with a more neutral tea below that level, it is a brilliant sweet tea.
FA Black Tea - Slightly astringent, “oversteeped” black tea, nothing really sweet here. The astringency is easily buried in a mix with fruits or creams, but might not play as nicely in other applications.
I'm currently flavor testing FW White Tea and will have notes posted soon. It was used as the tea flavoring in Dream Tea which I'm been trying to clone for ages (told directly by MtBakerVapor staff).
Please do keep us posted. I'm fairly interested in FW White tea!
Current notes so far:
3 bottles, 65vg/35pg, testing 0.5%, 1%, and 2%, Falcon 2 on an Aegis Legend
Day 0:
0.5%: Soft, throat hit is 1/10, like a very neutral tea, very fluffy, just slightly sweet but in a very natural, herbal fashion
Day 1:
1%: Getting clear notes of honey in the tea. Still soft on the throat, very fluffy. This could likely be the percentage needed to be a primary note.
2%: now about 2/10 throat hit, pronounced honey notes, but in the sort of honeysuckle. Closest comparison to this flavor would be elderflower.
1.5% might be the sweet spot, but I could easily see this working even at 2%.
General impression is very soft, white tea flavor with gentle floral notes and noticeable honey sweetness. I'm a fan.