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#This week's flavor is... ROOT BEER!
How did that get to be the FOTW?
It was requested!
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#In case you missed it, last week's FOTW was: Nonsense Names
#Next week's flavor will be: Tea
The week after that will be: Caramel
The week after that will be: Cookies & Biscuits
The week after that will be: Elderflower
The week after that will be: Mary Jane
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The week after that will be: Watermelon
The week after that will be: Bavarian Creams
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The week after that will be: FOTQ2 (New Hotness)
The week after that will be: Cheesecake
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The week after that will be: Rose
The week after that will be: Fruity Cereal
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The week after that will be: ??? You decide ???
Here are some notes I made after the last time Root Beer was the FOTW.
TFA Root Beer - tastes like smoking crack with a root beer barrel candy and a piece of black licorice in your mouth. For the record, I’ve never actually smoked crack, but I’ve been around people who were smoking it. You could call it a “plastic” off-note, but if you want to get specific about what kind of plasticy off note, it’s like the smell of crack rock being smoked. It’s present in the top notes and lingers in the aftertaste. Ignoring that crack note, it tastes like root beer with WAY too much licorice flavor. There should be some anise flavor in root beer, but this is way way too much of it.
TFA Root Beer Float - Way less offensive than their root beer. Still tastes sort of like it, with that plasticky thing going on, but with a little more of a cinnamon-like spiciness. But it’s also diluted by a creaminess, and less of that OG TFA Root Beer is definitely better. Not really a root beer float, though. Nowhere near as thick and rich as that. Maybe like a root beer float made out of whipped cream instead of ice cream. Vanilla whipped cream in terrible root beer to make a terrible root beer float? Also, I found it to be a little harsh.
FW Root Beer Float - Much better than TFA Root Beer Float, still not a float, though. Tastes like root beer barrel candy if there were some imaginary cream-filled version of them. Nice thick sweet texture, smooth vanilla finish.
FW Root Beer - Root Beer Barrels, all day. Full-flavored, full bodied, saturated syrupy sweet body. Hard to describe why they are more like the candy than actual root beer other than it’s flat, but it’s also a bit heavier on the spicy and herbal side, with a lot less wintergreen and vanilla.
FW Sassafras - Like one big piece of the root beer puzzle, the herbal part. I’ve not encountered sassafras outside of root beer but I couldn’t begin to think of how to build one from scratch without it. Seems like it could also work to make another root beer flavor more real, natural, interesting, or whatever. By itself it tastes like herbal molasses.
LB Root Beer - At 9% (I think this was recommended by LB) I get too much throat hit from this. It hurts a little to vape it. But 5% seems plenty flavorful, with increased harshness seeming to be the main difference between 5% and 9%. It seems fairly well balanced and rather than those barrel candies, it tastes more like a flat root beer; it lacks anything resembling effervescence. Mouthfeel is ok for a beverage but it feels like it needs some more syrupy sweetness down low to be all it can be.
FLV Root Beer - So this is the champion Root Beer of all the ones I've tried. People say it’s top heavy and I get that, but when I say top heavy I’m usually referring to something like what a lot of Real Flavors Super Concentrates did, where much of the flavor is just gone long before the finish. Instead, I’d say this one has a weird little hole in it. Because it finishes beautifully and that finish is what really sets it apart from something like LB Root Beer. It has this light creamy almost foamy lingering finish that calls to mind that thick foamy head on a big mug of root beer; you can almost feel the bubbles in it. It’s right before that finish that there’s the odd hole in the flavor. This is where it could use some syrupy sweet depth or depending on what you’re mixing up, something to fill that hole. Upfront, though, is also ridiculously vibrant and well balanced. It nails that wintergreen note that stands out in a good root beer that’s lacking in others, hits the vanilla better than others, and has a bit of herby sassafras, bittersweet molasses, a touch of spice, and a very subtle licorice taste that belongs there and doesn’t stick out obnoxiously like with TFA Root Beer. Bottom line, beware of the hole in this flavor, but other than that, wow!
FWIW, I have not tried Delosi Root Beer, CAP Root Beer, or Tasty Puff Rasta Rasta Root Beer. Forgot Delosi existed. And I forgot to order CAP... AGAIN! And I still haven't gotten my mitts on that Tasty Puff. I heard Tasty Puff Rasta Root Beer is the best-in-class root beer. I had trouble imagining that it’s better than FLV Root Beer. His Holiness /u/hocuskrokus said this to me: "I honestly think Tasty Puff slightly edges out FLV, but the fact is it's not very accessible, way over priced for the potency, and more limited in application. For those reasons I still feel like FLV is the overall champion because the pricing is similar but it's 3 times as potent at least and near equal flavor. Tasty puff's potency is a big limiting factor. It needs 10-15% single flavor to do the job, where FLV needs 1-3% generally. This means I can layer FLV into say ginger beer, floats, or other herbal sodas or drinks (like Moxie or an aperitif type cocktail) where with tasty puff I'm pretty much only going to get a 20% root beer style vape because it's taking up a lot more space."
I don't have any new Root Beer flavors to try this week, but I do have a handful of different Root Beer recipes mixed up that I'm excited to try.
In the grand scheme of things, Crack actually tastes pretty good.
I definitely stand by Tasty Puff being the better overall flavor but with a much more limited range. Price and potency are a huge factor also. FLV is superior in every other regard and definitely very good. FW being the next best IMO
Could you elaborate. How is it a better flavor. What about it makes it taste better. On the flip side what limits the range. I’m generally curious as I’ve never had puff but am crazy about flavorah.
I don't have notes with me but here goes.
Tasty Puffs is a more complete flavor, like a one shot almost. It's a bit sweeter but not quite candy sweet. It's got a bit more syrupy body like you'd expect from an actual soda, like Mug Root Beer. It has a smidge of effervescent type thing going on the top end which kind of round it out to a whole experience. It's limiting because it's a very weak concentrate and you need 10-15% to get a full effect. This sort of makes mixing it with other stuff sort of difficult. It's really difficult to get away from how sweet it is. And it really just takes up a lot of space. It's also more expensive than FLV once you break down how much you use vs how much you mileage you get out of it.
FLV is a pretty complete flavor. A bit more on the artisinal/crafted root beer side of things flavor wise, but wayyyyy more potent. It's easier to work with because as you add more sweet, soda, creams, whatever's it sort of tones down the higher herbal notes and you can tailor the experience to your tastes. So I feel FLV is overall superior because you can go in more directions with it as a building block vs a premade toy castle
I don't think they are comparable. Flavorah RB is (to me) a bit like a flat, artisan root beer that you poured yesterday and accidentally took a big drink of today. It is what it says it is but it isn't enjoyable straight up at all for me. You could make root beer out of it.
Rasta Root Beer is sweetened (like root beer), it is not a coil gunker. And it has the delightful wintergreen top note that Flavorah forgot. The other spices are more kind of support behind the wintergreen. I mix it at 4% and 1% inw vanilla. I tried FLV with it and it can supply the kind of musty spice thing if you are into that.
My root beer mix is delicious. The most requested amongst friends anyhow.
LB root beer 3%
FW root beer 2%
Cap super sweet 1%
Cap root beer 1%
FLV root beer .5%
Class act math pun. I approve. Flv root beer was one I was very excited to try, tasted it once, and was disappointed because it didn’t match my expectations. I just wanted a Barq’s with bite.
Someone one time, I think it was kindground, in an out of the box flavor combo suggestion said flv root beer and vanilla for pipe. I should follow up on that...
You should!
I love FLV Root Beer compared to other root beer flavors but it is a bit A&Wish, which is all Barq's with no bite. You could easily add some more spice to it, though.
I know it sounds weird but grape happy rancher from OOO has that bite you might be looking for I use it in my rootbeer mix and the grape flavour doesn’t come through when mixed with the other flavours I use. I posted my mix in this thread as well if you want to take a look at it
Did it match another commercial root beer drink flavor profile more closely?
I know Barq’s isn’t that sweet or creamy so I’m wondering if it was more like Mug (sweeter IMO) or A&W (creamier IMO)?
It's very are that I have actually had a root beer, being the filthy northern European that I am.
That suff is hard to come by here. But I have had it and I like it!
Now concerning vaping, I might join the folks raving about FLV Root Beer for sure. I kinda wanna fiddle around with FLV Root Beer and some rum now. Maybe VT Light Rum, FA Jamiaca Special and perhaps finally getting over my scare of WF Rum & Cola.
I like root beer in real life
Fitz’s has been on my radar for a while now but that Holy Vanilla though
DIYFS Holy Vanilla 1%
FLV Root Beer 5%
CAP Super Sweet 0.25%
I told Mr B he needs to figure out a different vanilla now that Holy Vanilla is dead and he says he's been working on it
I subbed in Inw Shisha Vanilla at 1% and it was pretty good imo.
this is a very tasty recipe!
You have Holy Vanilla? Lucky bastard! Holy Holy Grail is another loss. They're trying to clone it on discord
I'm gonna take a shot at this with subs for everything with flavours on hand, hah!
INW Shisha Vanilla 1%
FW Root Beer 4%
INW Natural Mint 0.2%
WS-23 0.75%
In theory, this should be at least passable :)
That looks cold.
I have no gripes with subbing just don't expect the same thing. Oftentimes subs turn out to be better, an improvement
I have been working on this root beer for a couple months 007 cola gave me the inspiration to try and make a rootbeer by using ingredients that are used to make rootbeer to me it taste like a craft rootbeer
Bakery spice blend VTA %1.25
Happy rancher grape OOO %3.00
Salted caramel FW %2.5
Sassafras Fw %2.0
Vanilla bourbon FA %4.00
I know some of these flavours sound weird but the happy rancher doesn’t taste like grape mixed with the other flavours it gives it that bite/mouth feel you get from some root beers you have to taste the flavour to know what I’m talking about it is hard to explain.
The bakery spice blend is a mix of cinnimon anise brownsuger and vanilla it is not to over powering it boosts and blends all the other flavours Together
Sassafras It’s a weird flavour to describe it gives the rootbeer that unique root beer flavour.
Here’s the link http://tjek.nu/r/zCdF
I knew if someone built a root beer from scratch it would have to have FW Sassafras in it. That looks very interesting.
I've got tfa root beer float and flv root beer. One of them, cant remember which, is pretty darn good solo. Being newish to mixing, I have no recipes with either but have at one time made a nice root beer floatish milkshakey mix that was pretty decent. Anyway, both of these flavors are really good in my opinion, recommend fo sho!
Best Rootbeers I’ve tried is FLV and FW bothe very good. Although find I have to use FLV very low or I get some off notes.
Have you tried that? The combination of flavors looks great, the amounts of them look messed up to me. Not just that they're all really tiny, but that is a lot of Smooth Vanilla in relation to everything else. It's looks like a nearly full-sized dose of Smooth V against itty bitty baby concentrations of everything else, because Smooth V is so potent.
Root beer floats are some of my favorite guilty pleasures. Vaping it scares me. It’s like black licorice, I love to eat the stuff, but I’m not sure how vaping it would be. I’m guessing the only way to find out is to dive right in. And to watch noted.
Flavorah root beer is one of the best flav concentrates I have ever had. I love root beer in real life and this nails it right on the head. It’s so rich and vibrant and you 100 can feel the fizz that would be carbonation. I vape Wayne’s from diyordie root beer float everyday. I always have a bottle of it mixed up. If you are looking for root beer this is the one you want to get. I’m going to try mixing it at 5% and throw some em in it and see how it tastes like that with some ws23. I’m fairly certain it would just taste like a chilled can of root beer.
I absolutely love Rootbeer. Both Flavorh Rootbeer and FW Rootbeer float are awesome. I have never bought regular FW Rootbeer. what's the difference between FW Rootbeer Float and Rootbeer? There Rootbeer float tastes like straight up rootbeer, no cream it it at all. Just curious haw the two differ. Since I started DIY back last August, I have gone through about 100ml of Rootbeer Float. I will even vape this on it's own for a lazy shake and vape.
So far, I have found it difficult to make a good Root Beer Float with FLV Root Beer. I keep getting way too much Root Beer. I’ll probably have to bring down the percentage and add a supporting Root Beer maybe? I don’t know, but I have yet to tame the beast that is FLV Root Beer...
Noted Ep. 153: ROOT BEER (ft. Mr Burgundy)
(Aired 2nd June 2020)
(Ranked from first to worst)
CAP Root Beer: (Not part of the rankings, not the worst) One of the sweeter root beers. A bit weak, 5% wasn't super bold. Light on spices. A little bit thin and dry. Tested like a root beer gummy, without any chewy texture. Candy sweetness, but that keeps its from being too dry. Nice wet flavour. No real wintergreen note. No mouthfeel or body, just linear, candy root beer flavour. Not hugely impressive, but not terrible either. Tested at 5% 6.28
Recipes:
Rootbeer Float CPBoy (ELR) 8.27
Root Beer Float by Uncle Bump 10.56
Tasty Puff Rasta Root Beer: (Not part of rankings) Apparently the best? Nobody had tried it this week. But Kopel says if you want to vape a stand alone root beer this is the one. But suggests FLV as the better practical option. The flavour of Tasty Puff is better than FLV, is a more complete flavour. Almost like a one shot. It's a bit sweeter, but not candy sweet. Got more syrupy body than you'd expect from a soda. Has a Touch of effervescence on the top end. But has a much more limited range. Costs as much as FLV and is far less potent. It's weak, need 10-15% to get full flavour. Makes mixing it with other things difficult, takes up a lot of space in a mix. Also hard to get away from how sweet it is. FLV is a pretty complete flavour, more on the artisanal crafted root beer side. Far more potent, easier to work with as can add more sweetness, soda, creams etc. Tones down the higher herbal notes, can tailor it to own tastes. So FLV is overall superior because it can be taken in many more directions, more versatile. It's a building block as opposed to a pre-made one shot. 13.34
(Tasty Puff is available at DIY Vapour Supply)
FW Sassafras: (Not part of the rankings) Pretty root beer-like. If you wanted to build a root beer from the ground up FW Sassafras would likely be an essential ingredient. Or if you wanted to tailor a root beer to your tastes. Can help add realism or make a root beer recipe more interesting etc. The herbal, molasses part of a root beer. A bit strange, but not gross. Seems pretty authentic. Those who are really interested in root beer should check it out. 16.38
TFA Root Beer: Tastes the least authentic. Tastes like smoking crack, with root beer candy and some black liquorice in your mouth. Plastic type off note that's present in the top notes and lingers in the aftertaste. Anise is a component of root beer, but TFA has far, far too much liquorice. 17.48
Recipe:
Root beer float by Johncox245 (ATF) Has 7% TFA Root Beer along with 2% Vanilla Swirl, 4% LB VIC and 1% CAP SS. The plastic/ crack note is still front and centre. Hasn't been subdued by the other flavours and the sweetener. Very liquorice-y, To the point it overwhelms the VIC and VS. Even overwhelms the sweetener. 20.02
TFA Root Beer Float: Far less offensive than TFA Root Beer as it's diluted with some creaminess. But it has a cinnamon-like spiciness the original doesn't have that is out of place for a root beer. It stands out a lot, even at a low %. 22.18
Recipe:
Float the Boat by MixinDAD (ATF) The ice cream base he used could make a really good milkshake. 1% FA Cream Fresh, 0.5% CAP Marshmallow, 2% TFA VBIC. Also use 1.5% FW Butterscotch Ripple, 0.5% TFA Dulce de Leche which gives it a nice darker sweetness. 23.45
FW Root Beer: ID10-T gets root beer barrel candy. Emily's favourite, doesn't get candy. It is pretty sweet, too sweet to be truly authentic. She layers it with FLV Root Beer to add sweetness. Has more of a dark spiciness that root beer barrels don't have. Heavier on the spicy and herbal side with a lot less of the wintergreen and vanilla elements root beer has. Mr Burgundy gets root beer lotta pops, would just need a touch of vanilla. 26.18
Recipe:
Cheapskate Float by hyperlite310 (ATF) Uses FW Root Beer Float. Perfect ice cream for a root beer float, 1% CAP Marshmallow, 3% FW VBIC, 1.5% TFA Vanilla Swirl. 27.51
FW Root Beer Float: Worse than FW Root Beer, better than TFA Root Beer Float. Not a float. Like a cream filled root beer barrel candy. Or a root beer flavoured popsicle with creamy centre. Really nice, set texture and nice smooth vanilla finish. Not a bad tasting flavour at all. Just not a root beer float. But can use FW Root Beer and add own cream, easier to build on. 29.30
Recipe:
Creamy Root Beer by Chrisdvr1 (ATF) Uses 1.5% CAP Vanilla Cupcake. Emily uses it in the same way, if used low you just get the frosting part. So can use it as a sweet thickener. Really nice recipe. Like an A&W root beer float. Really interesting how it works as a recipe. Even get some of the foamy head of the float. Maybe how the FA Meringue and CAP Vanilla Cupcake are working together? Only used FW Root Beer Float at 1.25% and it surprisingly wasn't overwhelmed by all the other ingredients. Vapes a little warm for a root beer as FW is lacking in wintergreen. May need a little cooling. 30.41
LB Root Beer: Feels like a more complete, more balanced root beer than FW. Like a flat root beer or root beer syrup, without the syrupy texture. Not too candied. No effervescence. Mouthfeel was ok for a beverage. For root beer syrup could use some more syrupy sweetness. Has been used successfully in root beer flavour recipes so definitely usable. Tested at 9%, ID10-T got a strong throat hit. Mr B steeped it for a week and it was a little sharp, but not very harsh. At 5% it was less harsh and had plenty of flavour. Between 5% and 9% there wasn't much difference in the strength of flavour, it was just less harsh. 34.00
Recipe:
Vanilla Root Beer by Neceros (ELR) Mr B's favourite recipe he tried this week. Reminiscent of his Fitz's recipe. Uses 3% TFA Vanillin, which seemed high. But it really works. The vanilla didn't mute anything as it sometimes can. Maybe because it is straight Vanillin. Didn't have any EM etc some other vanilla flavours can have. Uses the tried and true combo of TFA Bavarian Cream and Vanilla Swirl. This recipe could maybe be improved by replacing the LB Root Beer with 5% FLV Root Beer? 35.40
FLV Root Beer: Most authentic, robust root beer. Dark, spicy. Really great wintergreen top note, that so many of the other root beers are missing. Creamy, almost foamy finish. Seems top heavy, due to that bright wintergreen note. But isn't exactly top heavy, has a hole in the middle. Needs filling with something. FW Root Beer fills it nicely. Can also use other flavours that aren't even root beer to fill it, depending on what profile you're aiming for. Use around 4-5% for main root beer note. Can get a bit pricey as it's FLV. Can use as an accent as low as 0.25-0.5%. 38.27
Recipes:
Fitz's by Mr Burgundy (ATF) Uses DIYFS Holy Vanilla, which has been discontinued. Needs a little bit of a creamy vanilla to fill in the gaps and finish the exhale. Mr B suggest using something like 1% FA Vanilla Bourbon and 0.5% Vanilla Swirl. Holy Vanilla V2 isn't great, but Holy Resurrection apparently very similar to the original, so may be able to use that. Simple recipe. 1% Holy Vanilla, 5% FLV Root Beer, 0.25% CAP SS. 41.44
Butter Beer 1707 by Folkart (ATF) Uses VT Butter Toffee Base and VT English toffee. Great combo. 44.56
Can do a lot of creative things with FLV Root Beer. Kopel has a gingerbeer, ebc88 has a banana and root beer smoothie, Chrisdvr1 has a root beer doughnut, DoctorDoobie has a chocolate ice cream root beer float...
Cookies 1707 by Developed (ATF) Butter Beer cookies. ID10-T found it nauseating. But loved the idea of spicing a cookie up with root beer. 46.43
Root Birra by NaChef (ATF) All FLV recipe. Really great recipe. Slight hint of chocolate adds dark pint of interest. The hole in FLV Root Beer is filed with a creamy butterscotch. Rich, flavourful. 49.05
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I still have yet to mix with root beer because I’ve been intimidated that it’ll just taste flat and turn me off from wanting it, and I already knew FLV would be the best bet but most expensive just to see if I’d like to even vape root beer. Perfect opportunity here 👌🏼
This reminds me I need to order flv root beer
Put it on a list.
I hate lists. All they ever do is grow. I don't mind most times but it gets annoying after a while and it's the rabbit hole we chose to jump into
Yup. Rarely does my list every actually reset to zero as well. Either the place I'm buying from is out of something on my list or they don't carry something at all. I've had stuff on my list for months that I just can't seem to get. Like HS Australian Chocolate. Seems like nobody has it in stock. It looks like my only option at this point is to buy direct. Even that looks like it might not even be an option
I finally just purchased my first Root Beer flavors from BCF and Can Not wait to get them. I purchased Capella and Liquid Barn Root Beer in hopes either together or single they will thrive. Or did I buy the worst ones?
Hey can I suggest a profile for FOTW? I don’t think cereals have been covered for quite a while. I’m sure loads more flavours have come out since then.
Hey Dix - of course you can! But there are so many different types of cereals out there, it seems like we could narrow it down to a specific type or category of cereal. Any particular type of cereal you’re interested in? Loops, Pebbles, O’s, Flakes, Crunch?
What I would love to know about is plain cereals. Could be flakes, crispies, oaty types etc. Just anything without fruit or cinnamon and whatever else companies like to put in cereals. Does that count as a category?! I would have thought there were a fair few of them? Hopefully enough that you haven’t covered before.
One of my most recent loved drink flavor is VT Creaming Soda. It's delicious and can be bent in many recipes.
Ingredient|% :---|---: Creaming Soda (VTA)|5.00 Fizzy Sherbet (VTA)|1.50 Super Sweet (CAP)|0.50 Tangy Orange Drink (VTA)|3.00
Flavor total: 10%
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