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Hey all you cool cats and kittens, it’s Tobacco Time and Flavor of the Week is purring about Meowica!
submitted over 5 years ago by ID10-TWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

As always, the purpose of this thread is to gather the community to explore a category of flavor and its many uses. And it's also to have FUN!

Post recipes containing this week's Flavor of the Week, as the star or in a supporting role, with or without development notes. Talk about other people's recipes that use it. Compare and contrast different manufacturers' versions of the FOTW. Ask for help using that flavor in general or to achieve something specific, offer advice, brainstorm ideas, consider substitutions, suggest pairings... really anything at all as long as it's on topic.

 

#This week, this is also where you can comment to win the Tobacco Flavors Pack ($70 value!) from Flavorah and the new Flavorah recipe book!

This pack includes Arabian Tobacco, Cavendish, Classic Cigarette, Commercial Cigarette, Connecticut Shade, Cured Tobacco, Kentucky Blend, Native Tobacco, Oriental Tobacco, Pucker Tobacco, Red Burley, Sweet & Smokey Tobacco, Sweet Cigarette , Tatanka Tobacco, Turkish Tobacco, and Virginia Tobacco.

And, check this out, FOTW now features a neat new poll where you can vote for your flavorites:

#DIY SURVEY - VOTE HERE PLEASE

##DIY SURVEY - SEE PREVIOUS RESULTS HERE

#This week's flavor is... Tobacco Time: 'MURICA FUCK YEAH! (tobaccos with America, American, USA, US, Cowboy, or Western in the name).

Some of the flavors in this fun category include:

  • HS: Red USA, USA Mix, USA Mix Light
  • SC: American Red, USA Mix, American Tobacco, Western
  • INW: Tobacco Western Blend, American Type Tobacco, American Dream, USA Mix
  • TFA Western
  • MB: USA Mix, Western
  • GF American Blend Tobacco
  • VT USA Tobacco
  • Mom & Pops American Blend
  • DV American Blend
  • JF American Blend
  • FA Cowboy Blend
  • FW American Tobacco USA Blend
  • DIYFS: American Blend, Cowboy Bend
  • OoO Cowboy West Tobacco PG
  • DFS Cowboy Blend
  • EF: American Blend Gold, American Blend Silver, American Blend Black, American Blend Blue

 

How did that get to be the FOTW?

It was requested!

>If you're not interested in the upcoming FOTWs, please take this opportunity and comment to request one that interests you (or send me a PM to do that).

 

  • Past FOTW posts can be found here

  • The NOTED podcasts, which are basically video FOTWs, are listed on this sheet, maintained by /u/apexified

  • You can find these and more in a comprehensive collection of Flavor Facts created by /u/OdieDoodah

 

#In case you missed it, last week's FOTW was: Macadamia Nut

#Next week's flavor will be: Nonsense Names (for reference)

The week after that will be: Root Beer

The week after that will be: Tea

The week after that will be: Caramel

The week after that will be: Cookies & Biscuits

The week after that will be: Elderflower

The week after that will be: Mary Jane

The week after that will be: Walnut

The week after that will be: Watermelon

The week after that will be: Bavarian Creams

The week after that will be: Syrup Delivery Systems (Pancakes, Waffles, French Toast)

The week after that will be: Breakfast Breads (Croissants, Muffins, Nut Bread)

The week after that will be: FOTQ2 (New Hotness)

The week after that will be: Cheesecake

The week after that will be: Chocolate Milk/Milk Chocolate

The week after that will be: Tobacco Time: Sweet Stuff

The week after that will be: Cones

The week after that will be: Blue Raspberry

The week after that will be: ??? You decide ???

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12 points
 
by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

Why am I actually sad now that I do not have inw western? Frankly, I love TPA western. Unashamed to say it. I like it at 3% but this time I am trying at at 6, for science. If you think it doesn’t have its uses, please try Silk Road and tell me again that using a flavor in the right application Makes all the difference. Or just hate leather mouth :)

5 points
 
by gunsanonymousover 5 years ago

Silk road is my ADV. I actually just mixed up a batch here the other day and it is steeping right now.

3 points
 
by ID10-Tover 5 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

That's probably amazing. I love when people use terrible ingredients to make incredible things. Sometimes it's a bit irritating when the terrible ingredient is expensive or difficult to source but if it's just TFA that you can get for less than $2, why not?

4 points
 
by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

Tpa western is hardly terrible. I am certain you’ve had worse, flv tobacco fan boy or no.

5 points
 
by ID10-Tover 5 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

Worse tobacco than TFA Western? You bet, at least three just from the same flavor house.

3 points
 
by kvn4over 5 years agoSir-Mix-A-Lot

I like it also at 3%.

2 points
 
by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

Because you are a mixer of fine tastes, friend.

2 points
 
by kvn4over 5 years agoSir-Mix-A-Lot

Why thank you good sir

11 points
 
by ID10-Tover 5 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

I haven't tried very many of these yet but here are some brief notes on the four I have tried so far.

TFA Western - I get dirt as a main course, with sides of leather, tobacco, wood, and weird underripe fruit. But mostly dirt and leather. I’m not a fan of it personally but I'm a big fan of Flavorah's tobaccos and it reminds me of a huge hole in FLV's lineup. They really don't have anything that provides that leathery note that we're sometimes looking for in a tobacco. So basically it makes me sad.

INW Western Blend - I complained that FLV doesn’t offer a tobacco with leathery notes anywhere in their line up, but this is NOT what I had in mind. First of all, I don’t get any tobacco. It just tastes like licking a messy toddler’s chocolate fingerprints off of a old saddle. I guess there’s something dry and dirty about it that could be tobacco-eqsue, but seriously it's mostly saddle but also has a lot of inexplicable chocolate, and some faint fruity cherry/prune/fig type of flavor way in the background.

HS Red USA Mix - It tastes like opening a pack of Marlboro’s and finding that someone has stuffed a couple of grandma’s prunes in there with your smokes. It does impart an aroma highly reminiscent of Marlboro Reds, especially at first, and that needs to include that strange hint of musty fig-like pruinish fruit in there, but this is unbalanced, with way too much prune flavor, and it’s so, so sweet, especially in the finish.

SC Western Tobacco - When I said I wanted a leathery note in a tobacco and was crying about FLV not offering one, this is what I meant. It’s a slightly toasty tobacco and it does unfortunately have a touch of cocoa, but not full-on chocolate like INW Western. It’s mostly exactly that leathery note I was looking for.

This week I'll add SC USA Mix, SC American Red, and MB USA Mix to my list of flavors sampled, but for the real deep fried freedom crank up Toby Keith light beer blue eyed white Jesus paint your taint red white and blue wave your star-spangled boner in foreigner's faces 'MURICA FUCK YEAH! blood for oil level dedication to the cause of trying these types of flavors, I'm going to rely on /u/isuamadog , who's got like dozens of them.

2 points
 
by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

turns out... i do have inw western. Tasted it and somewhere in the back of my mind, some flavor codex from the mayans was unlocked and i remembered i'd heard of this taste before. Your description is a little off... It's actually just raisinettes. Raisinettes that were left in the crevasse behind the car seat for 4 months in the texas heat of summer in the daytime and frigid cold of night, alternating hot and cold to destroy what was left of the hope for the fruit to be a candy and turn them into little leathery strips of fruit in hardened powdery cocoa shell that simultaneously turns to dirt when touched and yet also curses you like some lost treasure from a bad Indiana Jones sequel.

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please update your notes accordingly

7 points
 
by jaberwkyover 5 years ago

prr +1 for all tobaccos! Was hoping to see some Virginias, but I guess those could make for another episode!

INW US Light Mix is dissapointing and weak af, I hope no one tries it over 5% like me and gets a yucky floral note in their face.

INW US Red Mix on the other hand is pretty woody and rough, and should be kept real low. Interested to see how you guys might use it.

TFA Western for me is a great additive (or if you like burning old leather jackets, ofc). I used it to steer the great Brigade 2506 from pipe-ish to cigarrete-ish, and then swapped all for my favourite tobaccos and got my go-to which I called Eastern Brigade:

|Co.|Flavor|%| |:-|:-|:-| |TFA|Western|1.0| |INW|Tobacco Absolute Garuda|1.2| |INW|Dark For Pipe|1.0| |INW|Tobacco DNB|0.5| |FA|Black Fire|0.8|

(I have most, so if I win give it to /u/TBX-12 as long as he/she shows us what he/she comes up with)

Edit: formatting is hard

5 points
 
by TBX-12over 5 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Haha thnx man, i’ll see what i can think of in the coming days!

2 points
 
by jaberwkyover 5 years ago

wait for the SFTs, maan (good luck btw!)

3 points
 
by ID10-Tover 5 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

There are so many Virginias that could easily be its own FOTW.

4 points
 
by jaberwkyover 5 years ago

the polish mafia alone has 6, but we can cut it short as INW Tobacco Absolute Virginia blows all I know out of the water (but that's cheating, somebody told me it's a NET).

4 points
 
by kuri_sanTouover 5 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

>the polish mafia

Thank-you for my smiley face

2 points
 
by LilBearLuluover 5 years ago

Thanks for making me spit my Pepsi all over my screen 🤣

3 points
 
by TheDudeWatchesover 5 years ago

Quite interesting how different people perceive the same flavouring.

You’re absolutely right in saying US Light Mix is weak, but I totally dig the mouthfeel.

Your Eastern Brigade looks really clever!

What you reckon, should “we” open a Brigade tribute thread?

1 points
 
by jaberwkyover 5 years ago

I probably overshot the % will try it lower again.

Brigade was the recipe that convinced me DIY could really be worth it, so hell yeah!

3 points
 
by ChemicalBurnVictimover 5 years agoresident tobacco expert

It’s the recipe that got me through all the other tobaccos that I tried that all mostly fell short. And it’s the recipe that’s still holding me over since I’ve mostly quit mixing the last year or so.

Last couple times I’ve mixed it I’ve also done a little variation. Mostly because I ran out of TA Cuban and have been too lazy/cheap to buy more. Basically, just replacing the TA Cuban with 1.25% Flavor Revolution Woody Tobacco.

I’ll have to give your version a try because I need another recipe to put in my other daily setup.

2 points
 
by TheDudeWatchesover 5 years ago

I’ll (finally) include TFA Western with my next order from Chef’s and report back, but from looking at the recipe alone it can’t be bad.

As for variations on Brigade, None More Black by the man himself is really, really good.

I did a variation on NMB so to speak, dropping the berries and teaming the FLV Connecticut Shade with FA Maple Syrup. I like 0.25 CS with 0.5 Maple Syrup, or for a shorter steep 0.5 CS and 0.75 Maple.

This isn’t a Maple flavoured vape, but the Maple mutes the CS and leaves only some deep, rich dark earth with a hint of bitter syrup sweetness.

The room note is quite, erm, prominent and it’s probably not a very sophisticated recipe and might not cater to everybody’s tastes, but when I need something bold and straightforward, it does the trick beautifully.

5 points
 
by Foment_lifeover 5 years agoSeto Kaiba

Regarding this week's flavors? I'm kind of terrified of TFA Western. I don't disbelieve that it can be good. I've just got a lot of apprehension after tasting a few commercial tobaccos that (presumably) were built on Western that tasted like someone tried to smother a camp fire with a leather jacket.

Regardless, I'd love to see a few more tobacco episodes coming up

One that sticks out to me is the non RY4 dessert tobaccos. Stuff like SOHO and presumably some of FA's other oddly named tobaccos. It looks like INW has a Cappuccino tobacco that might be interesting.

Past that there's a lot of specific tobacco subgenres that'd be worth looking at. Stuff like 555s or maybe just British tobacco in general? "Desert ship" and/or Turkish & Arabian tobaccos perhaps?

4 points
 
by ID10-Tover 5 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

All of those could have their own FOTWs! I'll add Sweet Stuff to the schedule right now.

5 points
 
by Foment_lifeover 5 years agoSeto Kaiba

Thank you!

5 points
 
by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

Some possible ideas:

Tobacco metals: gold silver etc

Tobacco colors: red black etc bulk honey/mile.

Tobacc-a-likes: poorlament, 555, wenstons, donehill etc.

Anti-federalism: Virginia, Kentucky etc.

Tobacco by the numbers: no.5, ry1-3, 4.5+, am4a.

Sweet leaf, forests and trees blends: 7 leaves, woody tobacco

Cigars: cherry cigar, Cuban

Pipes or been done? Am4a.

Bases: tobacco additive, tobacco absolute, tobacco.

Islama-tobacco: Arabian, arab, arabesque, desert etc.

ABC’s- m type, c-type, am4a etc.

Governmental bureaucracy: Congress, parlament etc.

Brooklyn vapes: ry4geddaboutit.

​

Maybe abc’s/123’s?

Edit: formatting is hard.

3 points
 
by ID10-Tover 5 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

Lol Governmental Bureaucracy tobaccos

4 points
 
by TBX-12over 5 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I have 0 experience with vaping bacco's.

When i quit smoking almost a year ago and switched to vaping, i was like well now i can taste other things then tabacco. So why vape tabacco, know what i mean?

Now, after almost a year, i see why people would. You can customize your tabacco vape just how you like it. Maybe more citrus-y? More mint? Do whatever.

​

Now that i write this down, i feel like a citrus-y fresh tabacco vape would be delicious!
So, for that reason, and that reason alone, i hope to win this FLV pack.

3 points
 
by ID10-Tover 5 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

Zero experience with vaping tobaccos? FLV Tobacco Pack is almost certainly one of the best places to start.

3 points
 
by TBX-12over 5 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Looking forward to the "randomizer" next episode!

>!(dm me your paypal, i'll slip you a fiver on the downlow. Nobody will ever read this, i promise) !<

2 points
 
by Glass_Memoriesover 5 years agoPalate of a Trash Panda

Also have 0 experience with baccos, but was just about to pick up a box here shortly.

4 points
 
by TheDudeWatchesover 5 years ago

Tested on an Wasp Nano RDA, .30 Ohm, 30 Watt

INW US Light Mix @ 2%, steeped for the fcuk I care

I actually like that one quite a lot. It’s slightly ashy, otherwise clean but mostly creamy with just a hint of vanilla. Not much tobacco. I wouldn’t call it an RY4 flavour though Very nice slick mouthfeel. One of the creamy flavour that doesn’t make me want to puke. That should go into a cigar recipe for sure. It’s got lactic acid in it if anyone cares about that.

INW US Red Mix @ 2%, steep for I seriously can’t give a damn

Right, I can see this working at 0.25 % as an addition, but standalone it’s just chocolate rolled in an ashtray. Sickeningly sweet and damp cigarette ends in an ashtray ashy. Again, might stand up well against those very bold cigar mixes to give a hint of ash and chocolate, but as a stand-alone: hell no!

Please don’t include me in the raffle, others will get much more enjoyment out of it!

1 points
 
by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

you dont get banana out of USA Light mix?

2 points
 
by TheDudeWatchesover 5 years ago

Man, don’t do this to me! As if Inaweras naming of concentrates isn’t screwed up enough, now I have to research if it’s even the same flavourings we’re talking about!

Yes, I can see what you mean but to me, no banana as such. How long did you steep it and at what percentage did you try it?

I dig US Light Mix for the slight sour note, the faint vanilla but especially for the creamy texture. That’s what I would be expecting from a mild cigar with a hint of nicotine strength. Don’t think it would work in a pipe tobacco, but the sour taste might be handy dragging sweetness down a notch. Can’t say right now I’ve got a concrete idea how to inject this in a recipe, as it’s a rather weak concentrate, and pushing it could make it a bit too dairy milky? Idk yet.

If you’d ask me if this would go well with an ever just so slightly underripe banana, oh yes, it would indeed!

1 points
 
by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

I tried it at like 5 days and again at 7 and 10. The banana disappeared by 10 and left that creaminess you mentioned. Mix a sample and try it early on. I could totally see this as a peanut butter banana bacco vase.

4 points
 
by kuri_sanTouover 5 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

IMO not an authentic bacco but as close to one I will vape

https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/18039

This is gold

2 points
 
by jirafoover 5 years ago

I just read the reviews.

"I shoe horses for a living and I find horses sticking there noses in my beard when I'm vaping Apple-Bacco."

If horses like it, it's good enough for me!

2 points
 
by kurplop666over 5 years ago

That's a good one for sure.

3 points
 
by duncanyoyo1over 5 years agoMixologist

I also like TPA Western. But it is a hard flavor to use.

I like the woodsy and earthy notes it brings into a mix.

I find using it low, as an accent to other tobaccos works pretty well. But it's a bully and will easily smother other flavors in the mix.

And that Flavorah Tobacco pack is such a good deal, for anyone looking to get into tobacco flavors it's easily the best place to start IMO.

1 points
 
by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

i think tpa western gets a bad rap. if you like it, you dont mind the bullying. mtl i find it shines because it comes through very clearly and not necessarily with all the extra that it brings dtl

3 points
 
by kermie2000over 5 years ago

Been turned off of tobacco flavors that were made around the ego twist days. Where should I start, if i was inclined to start messing with tobacco flavors?

2 points
 
by ID10-Tover 5 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

By winning the flavor pack this week. Or, if you're not so lucky, maybe getting the stuff to try one of these:

https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/58127#southerner_by_kopel

https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/47894#abuela_by_fear

https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/134966#ry4_custard_developed_by_developed

1 points
 
by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

i'd second southerner by kopel (the smell is astounding), i'd pass on abuela myself, and throw in sweet leaf, gold, native god, cabin, and silk road

3 points
 
by glasschalice468over 5 years agoMissing One Flavor

Not an entry, just praises for Flavorah, The Noted Crew, Guests, Viewers, and, the whole damn community.

1 points
 
by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

eff that, you're entered

1 points
 
by glasschalice468over 5 years agoMissing One Flavor

I mean, if you insist

2 points
 
by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

I’m not in charge but enter that. If you really feel strongly about sharing the wealth, pass on the doubles in discord.

3 points
 
by -DixxleRoo-over 5 years ago

Hey, I've posted some notes for the Hazelnut and Macadamia episodes of Noted in their respective FOTW threads. Hope they're of help to someone!

(Sort by 'newest comment' first to find them)

2 points
 
by apocalypticdiynewbover 5 years ago

I have tried time after time to make Tfa Western work in a recipe because I already had it. I'm convinced that's impossible lol.

3 points
 
by gunsanonymousover 5 years ago

Works well in silk road check it out. I'm sure there are other recipes as well and I'm working on developing one myself.

1 points
 
by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

honestly, if you dont like it, you dont like it. i tried a bunch for this week and, by comparison, i was impressed by how much i still liked it.

2 points
 
by automaticfailureover 5 years ago

I have a few tobaccos, mainly for mixing some of FEARs recipes, but I am always too scared to attempt something again myself. Last time I tried it tasted like wet toast soaked in a mud filled Reebok.

3 points
 
by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

Mixing fear’s recipes sounds like automatic success to me!

3 points
 
by automaticfailureover 5 years ago

Oh of course, I'm addicted to his Creamy Cuban recipe. Such a perfect vape for the Kayfun.

3 points
 
by kuri_sanTouover 5 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

That is very descreptive :)

2 points
 
by Dogtre4tsover 5 years ago

All my tobaccos are RY 4 :/ I would suggest "Cones", if possible. I don't recall an episode where the show covered them. These are the only ones I could find.

Waffle Cone (FW) Sugar Cone (WFSC) Caramel Cone (OOO) Sugar Cone (OOO)

3 points
 
by ID10-Tover 5 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

Adding Cones now!

2 points
 
by Dogtre4tsover 5 years ago

That's awesome! Thanks

2 points
 
by redditisnowtwitterover 5 years ago

You just reminded me that nicotine river sent me a free bottle of pralines and something. That’s a good mix with my RY4

1 points
 
by Dogtre4tsover 5 years ago

Is it Purilum Butter Pecan Praline Ice Cream? I don't have that. Have you tried it?

1 points
 
by redditisnowtwitterover 5 years ago

A little. Just adding it to RY4 double.

And it’s TFA pralines and cream. I found it.

1 points
 
by Morgan_Druryover 5 years agoCoil Sauce Sommelier

FW Waffle Cone is delicious

2 points
 
by FieldGreensover 5 years agoMissing One Flavor

Now this is something I can sink my teeth into. I haven't actually used anything that's being reviewed this week, but I've started getting into other tobaccos and have used them, mostly with credit to u/foment_life and /u/isuamadog. I'm really looking forward to seeing this week's episode to expand my horizons a bit more.

3 points
 
by Foment_lifeover 5 years agoSeto Kaiba

Thanks! Doggo is a big part of why I started diving into tobaccos myself, made me a believer that I could in fact enjoy tobaccos.

Still don't trust TFA Western though.

2 points
 
by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

the gift that keeps giving... i find myself reaching for red burley again cause of you!

2 points
 
by Foment_lifeover 5 years agoSeto Kaiba

Wait, what'd I do this time?

1 points
 
by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

truly flv is king in the end. the INW steep times are actually a fun challenge, but sorting through them is a little annoying. three week wait to be disappointed isn't very fun.

2 points
 
by T-a-r-a-xover 5 years ago

I only got some tobaccos fairly recently and so far really like the recipes I mixed with them.

My experience is very limited though. So, I'm not gonna lie, this is more a comment to enter for the flavour pack than anything else.

2 points
 
by redditisnowtwitterover 5 years ago

Still looking for that good, OG USA mix that hits the spot. Kinda sweet. Anyone?

2 points
 
by mkweiseover 5 years agoMissing One Flavor

> Some of the flavors in this fun category include

You left out all the tobaccos that predate the white man's arrival...such as FA Latakia, FA Perique and FLV Native. Was that intentional, or are Native American tobaccos included in this category?

2 points
 
by ID10-Tover 5 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

The topic is 'MURICA! FUCK YEAH! Native Americans are just sports team mascots and filthy hippies protesting our good ol 'MURICAN fossil fuel pipelines across our land that is definitely ours that we deserve because blue eyed white Jesus obviously wanted us to have it when he wrote Manifest Destiny into the Bible.

But yes, we should do a whole separate FOTW on Native American tobaccos. Also tobaccos named after states like Virginia and Connecticut, which aren't included in 'MURICA because they are home to too damn many Demonrats!

2 points
 
by mkweiseover 5 years agoMissing One Flavor

Well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree then. I've always hated Joe Camel and the Marlboro man, and you don't get along with Vaginia or Cuntnecticunt...so be it.

2 points
 
by ID10-Tover 5 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

Joe Camel is a mooslim terrorist

2 points
 
by sturkrazee411over 5 years ago

I normally add around .5% of American Dream and .5% of 555 Tobacco to my Tribeca recipie Sweet Leaf. Pretty good ADV when i need that "cigarrete- esque" punch.

2 points
 
by RumPirate613over 5 years agoMissing One Flavor

I had no idea what a bastard child TPA Western was til I read the comments here. I have a brown sugar/vanilla/tobacco recipe with Western that I’ve used since I started mixing and my friend only vapes that. I don’t necessarily like it solo but it adds a good base to a mix IMO

2 points
 
by Arternative1over 5 years ago

well all I currently own is TPA RY4 Double and I must say it is a flavor that does not get old. I have made several recipies with it (one new one currently steeping.) I'll share the one I have made several batches of

https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/26114#root_kit_exe_by_matthewkocanda

Noow this recipe has JF RY4 but I obviously made the substitution. Needless to say it works for me. Since I do not have the JF RY4 I cannot speak on how the original recipe is. ha!

2 points
 
by kurplop666over 5 years ago

I just mixed root_kit.exe. I had all the flavors so no subs. That is a solid recipe with a solid name!

2 points
 
by kurplop666over 5 years ago

Soho, RY4 Double = delicious vape almost always. The rest I've tried are like moldy leather pulled from a swamp. I think I have around 20 tobacco's and 2 for sure I like. Hopefully this week will change that. I'm terrified of my tobacco's. Mixing what could be the tastiest mix of all time and then 1% almost any given tobacco, and just like that swampy leather. ¯(°_o)/¯

2 points
 
by Antique_Cornerover 5 years ago

when i first stopped smoking by switching to vaping i bought juices that purported to imitate cigarettes . god they were awful !! i,m surprised i stuck with it ! i then graduated to some mixes that had just a hint of tobacco with fruit or custard or dessert and finally pretty much away from the tobacco to fruit or dessert or custard vapes . since then i,ve shied away from tobacco - now i realize that when i smoked i was not tasting the tobacco flavour but ash and tar and chemicals. this fotw does not excite me but i will watch it anyway just for id10-t 's descriptions of the awful flavours !!

1 points
 
by TheDudeWatchesover 5 years ago

You’ll find that vaping good tobacco concentrates is much more than what you remember from smoking commercial cigarettes.

To my experience most “tobacco” liquids are either a load of ammonia or rancid creams and custards. While ammonia does occur in actual natural tobaccos, I don’t think anyone can appreciate the full load. And while a cigar can be pleasantly “creamy” I’m not prepared to clean out an old custard container with the end of a stick and smoke it.

In my personal vaping experience I never got much satisfaction from all those cream/custard/desert vapes, but the world of vaping tobacco concentrates is so intriguing to me.

2 points
 
by Teezixxover 5 years ago

last year I got most of the Molinberry tobacco line including western and USA mix, either I have a problem tasting them (which is a possibility ) or they're very light. tried them at 2%-4%-6% and all the way up to 8% and it still felt like it's diluted. I got hints of nuts in one and probably Anise(?) in the other. in fact I found most of their tobacco line to be very light except for (Ash cigar)

this is a newbie's experience so take it with grain of salt. in mixes neither the USA mix nor the Western were unpleasant, but it was to me more effort to figure out whether I'm tasting something in the mix or imagining it, whether I have a problem with my mix or my coils than actually enjoying the vape. which made it highly unlikely to ever get them again.

2 points
 
by s_2_k_over 5 years ago

The new polls are great! Awesome add guys!! Had to go TPA Western sadly cause it's the only tobacco I own and have worked with

I soooo neeeed this tobacco pack!!

Western is a hard one to work with and very limited in use as it is very picky with its neighbors so fingers crossed I win this week!!!

Thanks for everything you guys do!!

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by s_2_k_over 5 years ago

Brilliant use of TFA Western if I do say so myself http://tjek.nu/r/zw0a

I desperately need this flavor pack!!

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by humanpuckover 5 years ago

I still haven't really tried much in terms of bacco. I do have to say the peanut butter banana bacco I did with u/isuamadog was really nice, but we used HHG and I only have about 5 ml of that stuff left :(

This is a daunting profile to get into, I feel like you can easily screw it up.

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by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

we all start somewhere :) despite being 'into it', I'm hardly an expert. The weird thing about tobaccos to me is what you use to accent it is (or can be) totally different than what you might accent fruits, bakeries or custards. You'd never have Lovage if you're a custard lover but a drop can just wet up some HS dryness and make them less... dry and brittle?

so i dont think it's 'screw this up' so much as adding to your toolbox, which is why flavorah baccos are so amazing. Aside from being both good and shake and vapable, they're much more 'complete' which starts you closer to a finished product without needing supports. That said, I love watching what non 'tobacco lovers' mix up because the add-ons they are familiar with make for interesting out-of-the-box combinations for me. Foment's Coco Bacco is a prime example of that to me. I never woulda thought to either buy or try horchata in a bacco mix and it is lovely.

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by humanpuckover 5 years ago

Stupid Horchata and Smooth Vanilla, I'll have what I need to try that in the next couple weeks though. I am looking forward to it.

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by Ziggy-Wayover 5 years ago

Sorry to come in this late, just got some Molinberry Tabacos in, and have been steeping for 5 days now. Not big on tabaco’s, but thought I’d share my thoughts on these.

USA MIX, @ 4% - Has some tabaco in there, but fairly light. Tabaco seems slightly dry and contrasts with a moistness coming from the sweetness provided by a watered down caramel. Some vanilla in there too. Not fully saturated at 4%, feels like this could go up a percentage or two. As an RY4 its too weak and missing the mark. Molinberry says there’s some nuts in there, might be a hint of something in there, but not identifiable, maybe a slight roasted note or just power of suggestion and trying to find something remotely nutty. Its going to need a lot of help to make a winner out of this, cowboy!

Charlie Tabaco, @ 5% - Well, I thought Charlie in the name would be American enough to hit the mark for the profile of the week. So this is even lighter than the USA Mix, in every way. Not fulfilling at all. Its supposed to have some apple in there, but really, its as faint AF, this doesn’t deliver. All round very light and watery flavor. Maybe these percentages need to be pushed to the 8% mark. No off notes, not bad per say, just unflavourful and no character whatsoever.

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by ID10-Tover 5 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

I didn't read Molinberry's description of USA Mix before now. At first I described it as a "toasty" mild tobacco under a ton of light brown sugar (light as in not dark brown sugar), but the more of it I've vaped, the more I have been noticing just a little hint of nuttiness. It's nice, but sort of like you described it, it mostly tastes like an incomplete RY4. It needs vanilla (I'm not really getting any) and of course a lot more tobacco. I want to use it for that light brown sugar flavor and hint of nuttiness though. To complete the RY4, maybe some INW Vanilla for Pipe and one of any number of FLV tobaccos depending on which direction I want to go with it (Red Burley, Kentucky, Native).

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by JoelOl75over 5 years ago

I don't have many tobacco flavors and no Flavorah tobacco's although I hear nothing but good things about them. My favorite tobacco that I do have is FE Inport which is a solid menthol tobacco flavor and super concentrated. Just 1.5% of this flavor is perfect. I also have FA Desert Ship which is a little too ashy. And I have TFA RY4 Double and JF RY4 Double... that's it. Here's my favorite tobacco recipe to date:

Fog Vapes Magical Menthol [CLONE] #530 

|Ingredient|%| |:-|:-| |Desert Ship (FA)|0.35| |Halo Sub-Zero|4.00| |INPORT FLAVOR (FE)|1.40|

Flavor total: 5.75%

Remember to rate it at e-liquid-recipes.com!

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by -DixxleRoo-over 5 years ago

Noted Ep. 151: AMERICAN TOBACCOS (ft. Isuamadog)

ONLY HALF THE STREAM AVAILABLE (Episode aired 19th May 2020)

Ranked from worst to first by Isuamadog

Isuamadog steeped most for 10 days. But some only for a couple of days and they were the ones that ended up near the bottom of the rankings. So they may change over time?

Not Worth the Money:

HS USA Light Mix: Mint cola. Tasted like a bad cola with coolant. Unpleasant. Only steeped for a couple of days though. 9.12

FA Cowboy: Has an odd funky leafy note, like a lot of FA tobaccos. Only steeped for 5 days. But Isuamadog has tried other FA tobaccos after a lengthy steep and they still had that leafy note. 10.30

JF American: Biscuit leaf. Very biscuit-y and AP heavy. 12.38

FW American: Sour maple leaf. Funky, musky, mildly sweet maple. Strangely sweet, sour, leafy, tree sap. Probably needed more of a steep? But questionable as to whether it would improve based on FW previous track record with tobaccos. 14.15

EUR American Blend Tobacco Black: After a couple of days steep has a really strong, sharp woodsy note, either pine-y or cedar-y. With a strong, sweet fruitiness which clashed with the woody note. Some people might enjoy it? 16.36

HS USA Mix: Pretty boring. Probably the tobacco that was under all the minty cola in HS USA Light Mix? Kind of sweet, definite fruitiness on the exhale. Tested at 4%. May be low for HS but may get a lot sweeter if percentage was increased? 20.04

Boring tobaccos can be good to use to fill out other tobaccos. FLV Cured, although it does taste pretty good, is a bit boring. But has a lot of body. It's pretty dry so won't make a mix soggy.

Not Worth the Work:

DV American Red: Odd leafy note. Not as leafy as FA Cowboy but had the same sickliness. May be difficult to balance in a recipe. Might like it if you like FA Seven Leaves? Tested at 5% 23.15

INW Western: Dusty leather and fairly prominent chocolate with a faint fruity, cherry, prune, fig type note in the back. 27.25

INW American Type Tobacco: Tobacco gin. No booze, just the botanicals. (Audio issues so missed some). Tobacco not too great. 29.31

INW USA Light Mix: After a couple of days steep had really strong banana note. After 10 days banana subsided...(stream cut out). Usable. Could be used to make a banana tobacco? Maybe with peanut butter or a banana RY4? 31.03

Recipe: RY4 Custard by Developed 33.46

STREAM CUT OUT. HALF THE EPISODE IS MISSING.

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by cxxxxpabout 5 years ago

I am aware that tobacco flavours do not taste like cigarettes but I'm still yet to try a tobacco flavour!

When I imagine what a tobacco flavour would taste like, I think back to Port Royal rolling tobacco, with it's sweet aroma and notes of vanilla, caramel & rum and this doesn't sound so bad, especially in a custard or dessert mix.

Let's say someone wants to live on the edge, venture out and maybe take a walk on the wiiild siide... (*suggestively wiggles eyebrows up and down*)

What are some mild/smooth or sweet tobacco flavours you'd suggest for them to start out with? (They like the sound of WF Vanilla Ruyan Custard/FLV Sweet & Smoky)

Thanks fam :)

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by Apexifiedover 5 years agoThe Kingmaker

####Find links to reviews, podcasts, recipes, and other info about 300+ Tobacco Flavors here -> Flavor Facts - Tobacco


####Discover other flavor profiles here -> Flavor Facts - Home Page


> Courtesy of /u/OdieDoodah

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by Jasona1121over 5 years ago

I'd love to with the Flavorah pack since the only tobaccos I own are red burley and ry4 double at the moment and can't do anything for the FOTW LoL

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by gunsanonymousover 5 years ago

I love tobacco's. I vape silk road as my ADV, and chemicalburnvictim's casino night is great as well. Still working on building up my own recipes and building up the tobacco flavor stash. I'm actually getting ready to place a new order here after rewatching the noted tobacco series.

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by transmothraover 5 years ago

Oh gosh this is exciting. I only just recently got into DIY and I've always preferred tobaccos. So I can't wait to find out what other people like best and what's good with what. I've just been futzing about with random tobacco flavors but haven't run into much that blows me away yet. I'm all ~~ears~~ eyes! Thanks for this one!

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by PassedMyPrimeover 5 years ago

Carefully, you might get hit with a trademark infringement for that opening line in the title /s

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by ID10-Tover 5 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

Can't wait to get smeared with sardine oil

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by PassedMyPrimeover 5 years ago

Don’t want to get your fancy boots messed up though

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by SigmaLanceover 5 years ago

I’d like to find something that was smooth, maybe woodsy or caramel with a hint of menthol. Maybe even like a spearmint.

Shoutout to Flavorah!

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by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

I like LB White Chocolate Peppermint, CT Shade, and a little ry4 and Chocolate Deutch. u/FieldGreens tried it and got lots of leafiness, i get chocolate mintiness. Depends on what you're used to but a combo worth checking out. Recipe

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by bc74sjover 5 years ago

Hmm can't wait. I wasn't nuts about vaping nuts, and I've yet to taste a tobacco in 4 years that I like but I did quit vaping with NicQuid Soho and I liked Juul's Virginia.

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by InternalScene5over 5 years ago

Oh boy Tobacco the one taste I have stayed away from just because I feared it drawing me back to smoking.

I quit not that very long ago, but perhaps enough time has passed that I could at least give it a try.. I really don't miss my 2-3 pack a day habit, but oh that fine occasional Cigar along with a good vintage wine, a fine Cognac or a fantastic Kentucky Bourbon I do miss dearly...

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by isuamadogover 5 years agoRenaissance Mixer

based on what you've said, then i'd recommend Brigade. 3 flavors and you could probably even get a good sense for it without the DNB.

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by Morgan_Druryover 5 years agoCoil Sauce Sommelier

FLV Oriental Tobacco is amazing.

Anyone got a good recipe similar to those Camel Margarita Mixer cigarettes from around 2000?

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by ChemicalBurnVictimover 5 years agoresident tobacco expert

I tried a while ago

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by Morgan_Druryover 5 years agoCoil Sauce Sommelier

I'll check it out when I get the flavors. Thanks.

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by ID10-Tover 5 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

This might scratch your itch: https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/102517#chem_twista_lime_by_chemicalburnvictim

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by Morgan_Druryover 5 years agoCoil Sauce Sommelier

Thanks for the heads up.

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by Jugglo55over 5 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I have no tobacco flavors. I want to try cabin soon.

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by duke4eover 5 years ago

I have a request for FOTW - how about we make an unusual flavor/unusual combinations/hidden gems FOTW. For all the people that are willing to go outside of tobacco, strawberries, creams, and all the other popular profiles. I wanna see cucumber mints, garlic tobaccos, pear fruit loops and pie gummy candy 😂

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by ID10-Tover 5 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch

Cucumber mint is a thing thanks to Flavor West, that was included in both cucumber and mint FOTWs. Do you know anyone who makes garlic tobacco, pear fruit loops, or gummy candy pie flavors?

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by d-babsover 5 years ago

Tobacco used to be confusing to me because it didn't taste like a cigarette. I'm vaping the GLV el kamino clone and it tastes like wood.

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by mysticalbuffaloover 5 years ago

Been waiting for this one, looking forward to the episode. Lots of purchases to make.

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by Zab87over 5 years ago

'Merica is #1 FUCK YEAH!!!

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by OOOdragonessOOOover 5 years ago

i was going to pass on this,after talking about it, realized idk what that would taste like. tobaccos are not like tasting a cig lol. so now im curious.

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by LilBearLuluover 5 years ago

Commenting for a chance to win and to say as always that this is one of the best threads on Reddit every week. Informative and hilarious all at once.

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by KiltOfDoomover 5 years ago

Just starting to get into tobaccos! Thanks for all you do!

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by Vapicus_Maximusover 5 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Flavorah is an amazing company with solid flavors. One of my facorites is Red Burley. Exelent solo. Kentucky Blend is also in my top flavorlist. Solid and a good ground for a good tobacco vape. If you seak a good recipe try out Fear's Cardinal IT IS FIRE :) https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/24962#cardinal_by_fear

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by mladrick2over 5 years ago

RY4 Double is all I've tried. I've made a couple recipes with it that I could vape all the time.

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by JediMind_79over 5 years ago

Haven't really tried many tobacco's. Mostly just RY4 Double and Vanilla Ruyan Custard, both of which I enjoy as stand alone or in a mix. I'm currently waiting on Flavorah Oriental I found a interesting recipe that takes it and FLV Rootbeer, Butterscotch, Cream and a few other FLV concentrates.

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by UncontrolledVariableover 5 years ago

Flavorah fanboy here. With the exception of 3-4 flavors my tobacco stash is dominated by flavorah. My only murica flavors are Kentucky and Connecticut, so i'm interested to hear about the others.

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by Briguy520over 5 years ago

The extent of my experience with tobaccos is with ry4s, ry4 double being the one i am most familiar with. I am curious about going deeper down the rabbit hole, and exploring some darker and more aromatic types of concentrates. Looking forward to Noted this week.

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by Wildgypsy70over 5 years ago

Wow.....on that entire list, I have ONE. FA Cowboy.....picked it up for the FA mixing contest. Didn’t use it. I’m not a huge tobacco mixer.....I have a few FLV and INW. Definitely looking forward to hearing about all the flavors I don’t have!

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by notsonattynateover 5 years ago

I’ve been really enjoying RY4s and tobaccos since starting diy. I love the organic taste of it. It’s like coffee, dark beer or good ganja, and for some it’s an acquired taste but worth giving a fair chance. The type of flavor profile kind of grows on you, that is, if you don’t appreciate it right away. I would love to get my hands on this flavor pack! Thanks for the opportunity!

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by Sebass55over 5 years ago

I love tobacco vape but unfortunately I can't make any contribution to this post because I don't have any of the flavoring that will be discussed tonight, and that's a shame! I'm going to pick 3 or 4 of the best flavors and add them to my " next flavor to buy list". Always enjoy the show and thanks for all the flavor testing and great recipe that you created! Yo!

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by dabrewskiover 5 years ago

Love to try Flavorahs Sweet and Smoky, but i love tfa western Flv Native, Red burley and Inawera flue cured

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