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Which flavor is gunking my coils?
submitted over 5 years ago by tubthumper36

Hi all,
The following recipe is currently one of my favourite ADV's, however it gunks up my coils/wicks in no time at all. I know CAP SS is often a culprit, but this recipe smashes my coils far beyond other recipies I make that have 1% SS.
Im tipping that one of these flavors is either packed with sucralose itself or has some other component that is casuing this. Id like to try and identify the flavor responsible and experiment with substitutions.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!

3% TPA DragonFruit

1.75% FA Fuji

1.5% FA White Peach

0.75% TFA Pineapple

1.5% TFA Strawberry

5.5% TFA Strawberry Ripe

0.5 % CAP Super Sweet

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9 points
 
by billj81over 5 years ago

Tfa strawberry ripe is loaded with EM. That could have something to do with it?

1 points
 
by tubthumper36over 5 years ago

Thats a good point. Ill have to do a bit of digging and see if EM can contribute to gunking!

2 points
 
by josefbudover 5 years ago

Maybe anecdotal but my ADV a while back used to be a Strawberry Kiwi that was 6% TFA Strawberry Ripe, and it never gunked up my coils as much as yours.

1 points
 
by tubthumper36over 5 years ago

Yeah I have also used it in similar percentages in other mixes and never had this issue. I have also seen other recipes using similar and being described as fairly clean.

6 points
 
by funkymonkeybunkerover 5 years ago

Side note: i fucking love that white peach

2 points
 
by tubthumper36over 5 years ago

Its not bad hey! The original recipie called for FA Peach but I didnt have it on hand and only had White Peach. Its pretty damn tasty.

4 points
 
by Flanker6or7over 5 years agoMixologist

Have you both tried FLV Peach? I was on the FA Peach/White Peach combo train for a while, but this is the gospel!

3 points
 
by nakedzover 5 years ago

JF Honey Peach is pretty nice too.

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by tubthumper36over 5 years ago

I havent yet no, but ita definitely on my short list! Unfortunately FLV is a bit hard to come across in this country but Im always on the lookout.

2 points
 
by Flanker6or7over 5 years agoMixologist

Have you both tried FLV Peach? I was on the FA Peach/White Peach combo train for a while, but this is the gospel!

2 points
 
by funkymonkeybunkerover 5 years ago

I havent mixed it with FLV peach... but ive done it with WF peach gummy and those work well with each other. It goes well with candied flavors in general. Iv found that sometimes i like subbing some sweetner with a little white peach.

4 points
 
by Beepasaurusover 5 years ago

Probably the CAP Super Sweet.

2 points
 
by tubthumper36over 5 years ago

I add 0.5% CAP Super Sweet to pretty much all of my mixes and none of those have the same issue. Even my other ADV containing 1% CAP SS and 1% TFA Sour, doesnt gunk coils nearly as fast.

4 points
 
by jasone414over 5 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I would agree. 0.5% Super Sweet is not as bad for your coils as alot of people in this sub think that it is.

1 points
 
by tubthumper36over 5 years ago

Definitely not so bad that it would cause a coil to gunk up in half a day! haha

4 points
 
by keeganspeckover 5 years ago

Assuming there's one flavor doing the gunking, and it's not something weird happening as a result of interactions between two or more flavors (which seems unlikely to me but it's always possible, I guess), then if you want to avoid vaping 10mL of each single flavor seven times (or doing the same and cutting a single one out seven times) you could always try this:

1a. Divide them into two sets of flavors: one set with three of the flavors, and another set with the other four flavors. Make a batch of the four-flavor set (you get to vape ~57% of the flavors this run).

1b. Vape that batch. Now you've determined which set has the gunker; if the set you vaped gunks up then it's in that one (the four-flavor set), and if it doesn't gunk up then it's in the other one (the three-flavor set).

2a. Divide the "bad set" of flavors into two sets: one set with half of the "bad set" from the last run, and one set with the other half. If the four-flavor set turned out to be the "bad set" (i.e., the stuff you vaped gunked up) you'll end up with two two-flavor sets (obviously) and if the three-flavor set turned out to be the "bad set" you'll end up with one one-flavor set and one two-flavor set. Pick the larger of these two sets (or pick one at random if they're both the same) and make a batch with that subset plus all of the flavors from the "good set" from step #1. You'll end up with either 5 or 6 flavors in this batch, so you get to vape ~71–86% of your flavors this run.

2b. Vape that batch. Now you've determined which subset has the gunker; if the set you vaped gunks up then it's in that one (the two-flavor subset you chose in the previous step), and if it doesn't gunk up then it's in the other one (the two-flavor or one-flavor subset that you didn't choose).

3a. If it turns out to be in the one-flavor subset (i.e., the stuff you vaped gunked up the first time and the second time it did not gunk up), then you found your gunker, and you can stop! If not, you now have two flavors that you know contains the gunker. Take one of those flavors and combine it with all of the other flavors (except for the other undetermined flavor), and make a batch with that. There will be 6 flavors in this batch, so you get to vape 86% of your flavors this run, guaranteed.

3b. Vape that batch. If it gunks up, the gunker is the flavor you chose in the previous step. If it doesn't, then it's the one you didn't choose. You're done!

Benefits:

  • Could take only two batches if you're lucky and the gunker is in the "smaller half" both times, or a maximum of three batches otherwise.
  • You always get to vape with the majority of your flavors, no matter what, so you don't have to deal with vaping a one-note mix.
  • In only two or three batches, you'll have already given the "mix without the gunker" a good trial run to determine whether you can live with the recipe without that gunker flavor.
2 points
 
by tacofiller10over 5 years ago

Genius!

1 points
 
by tubthumper36over 5 years ago

Thats a great idea! Its like SFT-lite haha.
I may well do this if no luck on any other fronts. Thanks for the suggestion!

2 points
 
by QMakerover 5 years ago

I've used all of those flavors extensively with no issues, except for two: FA White Peach and super sweet.

I've used the TPA sweetener and had gunking problems. I Don't know if the CAP super sweet is the same. Yes, I've had sweeteners cause gunking in half a day. I've never used white peach.

If I had to guess, I'd say the sweetener is the problem. It's probably compounded by sweet flavors in white peach and strawberry ripe.

1 points
 
by tubthumper36over 5 years ago

Ill do a bit more digging into the White Peach and see what people are saying about it. I have used similar (if not greater) %'s of Strawberry Ripe and Super Sweet together before without issue, so perhaps the White Peach and Super Sweet (or all three) are creating the perfect storm.

2 points
 
by Setagaya-Observerover 5 years ago

Try to the Aluminum Check:

Prepare the Foil, drip a few drops of the Base and add each flavor (solo), heat it up and let it flow under constant heating!

Observe what is happening.

1 points
 
by tubthumper36over 5 years ago

Ive never heard of this sort of method before but makes sense!. Ill have to give it a go. Thanks!

1 points
 
by TheFriendlyCactus1over 5 years ago

Have you tried single flavor testing?

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by tubthumper36over 5 years ago

I have for some flavors; any I was going to use to make my own recipes. I didnt bother on flavors I bought only to make others published recipes.
I was hoping to avoid vaping 10ml of each one of these individually just to find the culprit haha.

2 points
 
by TheFriendlyCactus1over 5 years ago

Yea that was my thought it would be a big task to figure it out

1 points
 
by tubthumper36over 5 years ago

Thats it! haha. I was hoping that perhaps it was common knowledge in the community that one of these flavors was notorious for gunking. Ill have to do some more searching/reading to try and find the main offender!

1 points
 
by AugustCelestialover 5 years ago

What is your vg/pg ratio?

1 points
 
by tubthumper36over 5 years ago

From memory my current batch is 60/40 but I have done previous batches at 70/30 with the same result.

1 points
 
by SeldenScum516over 5 years ago

Also depends on what wattage, coils, voltage your using. Are you using a Sub-Ohm tank?

1 points
 
by tubthumper36over 5 years ago

Im using a few different 22mm RDA's; usually the Haku Venna running twisted 30g SS316L, 8 wraps at 2.5mm. Comes out to around 0.65ohm and is perfect at 30w.

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