I'm having a period where I don't want to taste anything sweet. Fruits, bakery, etc. - NOTHING. I just want to enjoy vaping without the sweetness associated with it.
Now, I tried vaping unflavored VG/PG(70/30) but even that had a sweet taste to it.
Although I would love to have something that doesn't taste like anything at all, I am willing to settle for a recipe(maybe?) of something that tastes bitter or sour or anything else.
So, is it possible or am I being unrealistic here?
FA Bitter Wizard & VT Bitters, you sadist.. you
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According to my preferred vendor's website:
"With Bitter Wizard, you can reduce, or even eliminate the basic sweet taste of PG or VG. Adding a small amount of Bitter Wizard to your DIY mix will give you a pleasantly bitter aftertaste, and it only becomes more effective as you increase the dosage. Bitter Wizard blends extremely well with dark and tobacco flavors."
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Sounds like this will do just the trick.
I just have to say this dude - what the fuck man. I don't mix at 8% supersweet but to eliminate any sweetness? For science, maybe....for pleasure? Watch it, boys, this is one sick puppy.
Ok. So the description on the vendors site, made me think: I've never actually DIYed tobacco mixes and it says Bitter Wizard goes well with tobacco flavors.
Do you have any experience with tob? Any recipe you'd recommend (ATF is down AtM)?
It's not so much that BW goes well with tobacco, but that anybody who's looking for a cigarette- or cigar-like tobacco (or a straight pipe flake, as opposed to, say, a Cavendish) is probably looking for a way to eliminate the sweetness of VG, and to a lesser degree PG, and BW will do that. It makes an authentic tobacco more like authentic tobacco. Do note, though, that BW is a sweetness-killer by virtue of being godawful bitter - if you use enough that you can taste the BW, it's not a pleasant thing at all. Add by drops until the undesired sweetness is gone, then stop.
Menthol or sour flavors maybe
I have WS-23, it didn't do anything to the flavor, just makes the exhale cool. So, I'm not sure if it would help with the sweetness.
I've never ventured into sour flavours, could you suggest any good recipes?
Fw pink lemonade is very tart. It's not super sweet that was the only juice I vaped for a year or so it's really sour and tangy Its awesome
VG is sweet. Try lowering it?
I use an iStick Mix mod with a GeekVape Zeus X RTA.
What would be the minimum I can take the VG on my setup?
This is the first time I'm seeing anyone who thinks even VG is too sweet lol
Anything floral works great.
I'm sorry, I'm relatively new to vaping and the years of smoking has ruined my sense of taste and smell, so I suck at imagining recipes or distinguishing flavors on my own.
Any "floral" recipe or particular flavor you can suggest?
If I could reproduce the florals from Kai Virgin Vapors that would be awesome. They have a rose vape that is more dry than sweet. Also their lavender is true to taste. What i find is that its a balanced all day kind of vape.
It is believed that they source from Medicine Flower or possibly Natures Flavors. You can tell their flavoring is not the typical sweet bakery type like Flavor Arts. For instance the Flavor Arts rose is a rose candy flavor while Kais is a true rose taste almost as if you bit into a rose petal. I think its because its a true extract not just a lab made flavor
You can dig through these posts if you're so inclined:
I know of some recipes you should try then:
Yogurts: Addy's Yogurt , Blue'addy Yogurt , Peach yogurt fresh03 recipe
Bitter notes: Pumpkin Cream Pie (i'd personally put less pumpkin spice in, but it's definitely not sweet this one)
Other: Blackberry Custard Pie (this one has no sweetener and it doesn't taste sweet, despite FW blueberry tasting kinda sweet ish it's nowhere near flavors like inw shisha strawberry and such)
and I won't even bother formatting this one since you've probably already tried it, Ella's Shortbread Biscuit is an accutare shortbread biscuit and it's buttery, crumbly but not sweet:https://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/550035/Ella%27s%20Shortbread%20Biscuit
I've used Bitter Wizard in the past and it does the job, it IS potent. I used one drop per 30ml or 3 drops for 60ml because I'm crazy like that. I cannot stand sweet juices, especially ones that leave a lingering taste in my mouth. unflavored is too sweet for me as well. you can go overboard with it, and your vape will turn dry as cardboard, BUT NOT SWEET. ha.
I had the same issue with unflavored. I found just a touch of wintergreen and/or spearmint did the trick to cut that dull sickly sweet flavor of VG.
Last batch, I used something like .4ml total in 250ml of juice.
And if they want to turn it up a bit: 3% TFA Wintergreen, 1% TFA Peppermint, and .5% Ws-23 makes for a good mint recipe that isn't sweet.
Peppermint is too sweet for me. Some spearmint contain peppermint, I prefer those that don't. Menthol is good sometimes too. I like it when I feel stuffy.
I think I would keel over at 3-5% flavor. :0 ..but I know many like it.
Don't add sweetener.