This has definitely been mentioned probably about a thousand times but I feel like its good to reiterate it as I still see it quite a bit.
DON'T MAKE YOUR FIRST RECIPES IN BOTTLES LARGER THAN 10ML.
Especially if you're new and creating your own recipe. Chances are you're going to make a lot of mistakes, and if you have never tried the flavor before you will really be wasting a lot of your supplies and in that case also your hard earned $$$.
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When I first started i was way over-confident and made a lot of random ass poorly balanced recipes in 30ml bottles. Ended up just dumping a bunch out.
It's human nature to bite off more than we can chew. But trust me, you will thank yourself later when you're only dumping a few ml's of failed juice down the drain versus that feeling of dropping 30, 60 even 120ml into the sink...
Actually, 30ml bottles work great for mixing 10ml testers. I find the openings on most 10 and 15ml too narrow for my aim.
You're luckier than I was, I went straight for the 120's. "Hmm, I bet fa honey and Bavarian cream would taste great" spoiler alert: it didn't.
I heard that FA Honey tastes like cat piss
I've seen a lot of reviewers saying it needs heavy diluting and I have to agree with them. It should be diluted with gasoline, set on fire, and the ground salted after. It's terrible and no amount of thinner or overpowering it with other flavors will ever fix that.
...it's a great additive to a cup of ear gray tea though so it wasn't a complete waste of cash. Couple of drips and you're good to go.
Good tip, when started i would make 20-30 mils and most of what i made i ended up throwing away at the time i was trying to clone Bobas Bounty following many others recipes, I started 4-5 years ago and haven't had a stinky since. What I can say is the best recipes to start with are simple ones with 2 to 4 flavors.
We’re you ever able to recreate Bobas ? I’ve poked around a little at the recipe sites but didn’t really see anything.
Agreed, did my stand alones in 10ml and that was too much, did my first mix in a 30ml and it was ok but I had a really hard time going through all 30mls. Luckly a friend was still using unflavored juuls I showed him how to refill the pod, and he thinks the stand alones are delicious 😹 so he's got my through that so I don't have to dump it 😹😹
I definitely agree new mixers should make small batches at first. At least until they get a handle on what the individual flavors actually taste like and how they react with each other.
Even 10mls can be a ton to vape with an unbalanced recipe lol.
After some experience, you can tell if the recipe suits your tastebuds or what changes you need to make before mixing it.
What if the only flavor you vape is fruity pebbles? I have caped for about 4 years and the last 2 I haven't went to another, everyone I tried was terrible. But i do like different so called (pebbles) flavors, I get bored with one and switch a few days. Lately it's been Slurp by breakfast e-liquid which is actually under froot loops on ejuicedb page. The other I absolutely love is Pebbles by vape Crusaders. I want to make my own, but have no idea how to tell what someone's recipe is like and I know the Pebbled, Slurp, etc can be remade, but how do I learn what is in it? Someone obviously made it or made something that taste just like it even if the recipe was different.
I think it is ok to start with 50-60 ml.
but the Flavor Dosage need Room.
I mix 60 ml. “in the right Direction”
and divided this in 3 smaller Bottles and play with the Flavor Dosage.
Anyway, there is a Time (5 Days- 3 Months) nearly all Juices are vapable!
It'd be nice if River Supply Co would have sent me bottles that were under 30 mL in my DIY kit......
Maybe more of an advanced beginner:
Once you have a number of single flavors you like and want to start mixing them (say a peaches and a cream) make up a bottle of each using the PG/VG/Nic amounts you like to vape, but at 20% flavor. Also make two unflavored.
Then for quickly mixing batches you can almost eyeball it at first (measuring of some kind is always better).
E.g. if I want to try 5% Peach + 1.5% Cream I would use 25% from the peach bottle, 7.5% from the cream and the rest from the unflavored. (at 20% the flavors are diluted by 5 so multiply by that amount).
Really helps when making small test batches since errors will not have as much impact)\. Also makes it easy to add a touch more to see if one is going the the right direction. Once the general ratios are known I find I can hit it in just 1 or 2 exact attempts using full strength flavors.
You could use a lower percentage, but your max flavor percentage in the final mix will always be <= max flavor mix percentage. They also don't have to be all the same percentage in the high ratio mixes, but then it starts to throw in a level of complexity that reduces the value of the method IMO.
This sounds awesome, is the unflavoured full percentage?
So say I mix at 30/70 2mg, I mix some flavours 20%, with the above but do I mix the unflavoured at 0%flavour and mix? Just to keep it all easy and the same?
Yup.
The idea for me was I can take a 10ml bottle and just start squirting in to see how something is w/o having to pull out the spreadsheet and it is easier to make 5ml test batches since my room for error is much larger (easier to do 2ml than .4ml).
Don't really need big bottles of the stuff either. I'll use 120ml for the unflavored because I go through it a lot, but things like mints just a 10ml of premix is usually enough. Also nice if I just feel like making the tank I'm vaping atm be a bit minty or something just for something different.