Is Zeppola a main note or an accent?

submitted over 5 years ago by TimInElmira

I'm trying to replicate the batter for a deep-fried treat. The real thing is a simple flour, egg, milk and oil recipe, much lighter than a donut. I can't figure out if I should pair Zeppola with CAP VC v1, or up the % and use it as a main note. Thoughts?

EDIT: I'll add that I have never worked with it, but it keeps coming up on my radar.

Comments

3 points

by Denske203over 5 years ago

Zeppola is a bold flavor and while you can use it as a an accent I personally think its best at 3-4% as a main note. You could pare it with cap vanilla custard but not too high because cap vcv1 starts to covering things up high.

1 points

by TimInElmiraover 5 years ago

As a main note, does it taste like fried dough? I think that's the effect I'm after.

2 points

by St1llFrankover 5 years agoThis flavor... This is not my kind of flavor

> As a main note, does it taste like fried dough?

It tastes like nutmeg or cinnamon spiced donut to me.

1 points

by vergaerdover 5 years ago

I get cinnamon and more cannoli type than donut from FA Zeppola. Incredibly potent as it would stand out at 0.2% in my mixes.

u/TimInElmira As far as WF DFPD goes, its a light, airy dough crust with indistinguishable fruit filling upfront and cinnamon back notes. Apart from the mouthfeel, the deep fried part leaves much to desire. I really have to search for it and its only in the dough crust as a back note. If anything I'd say it's more of a component to build some sort of artisanal pastry that you can take to a savory profile if you'd like.

FLV Sweet Dough may be of interest to you. Will be trying this myself in the next few weeks.

1 points

by Denske203over 5 years ago

I would get wf deep fried pastry dough for that if thats all your after. It also pares well with zeppola, they work fantastically together imo.

1 points

by essellarover 5 years ago

Very much so. It takes some time to come around, though - give it an absolute minimum of four days. There's a very distant background dusting of cinnamon that's easily overridden by just about any pairing as long as you keep it to around 3%. There's no good reason to go over 3.5%; it just tastes oily any higher, like dough you tried to fry in cold oil.

2 points

by Kewkewmoreover 5 years agojust add sucralose

If you want an additive that adds a fried dough note, try FA joy

2 points

by jasone414over 5 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Zeppola has a strong flavor and for me it sticks out in every recipe I've used it in. I'm not experienced enough to create my own recipes yet so I think that the lowest that I've used it at was 2%. But just considering those few recipes that I've tried, I didn't like this flavor at all. However, I could see it working well in a cinnamon donut recipe because it has a cinnamon spice type note to it.

2 points

by St1llFrankover 5 years agoThis flavor... This is not my kind of flavor

> Zeppola has a strong flavor and for me it sticks out in every recipe I've used it in. ... it has a cinnamon spice type note to it.

This is what I taste with Zeppola too. It's like cinnamon or nutmeg or a combination.

3 points

by Lord-Graysonover 5 years ago

I’ve had luck using Zeppola thus far with the following percentages and flavor combinations for fried dough/ doughnut flavors:

2-3% FA Zeppola

0.75-1.25% FA Joy

0.50-1.25% CAP Sugar Cookie

0.50-1% INW Biscuit

0.5-1.25% FA Cookie

As others have said Zeppola has a cinnamon note which needs to be considered in your recipe. I do find that Zeppola and strawberry doesn’t mix well together or I haven’t been able to make it work for me yet.

Hope that helps. Happy mixing.

1 points

by SaschaAlexandraover 5 years agoDelightfully Mediocre

WF deep fried pastry dough is delicious, but I think it’s more Twinkie than fried dough. If you have zeppola, try it. If you have Joy, try that too. They will both work. Keep Joy low as previous comment suggests. You’ll have to try them for yourself.

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by TimInElmiraover 5 years ago

I've tried Joy in the past and was not impressed. I think I'll be trying Zeppola in low % in conjunction with some creams.

1 points

by SaschaAlexandraover 5 years agoDelightfully Mediocre

My donut and cream has zeppola at 3% I really enjoy it. You should like it. I definitely get that fried dough taste. I think it has to steep. And then you’ll pick it up, and say, wow, I made that and it’s pretty good. Good luck.

1 points

by TimInElmiraover 5 years ago

Do you use Zeppola on its own, or in conjunction with something? Seems to me that the notes on it cover both, but not real clear it.

1 points

by SaschaAlexandraover 5 years agoDelightfully Mediocre

Also, I don’t know if you’re a pepper taster, or if you’ve worked with cap vanillas, I taste pepper in them. I don’t know if that normal. But it’s something to keep in mind.

1 points

by St1llFrankover 5 years agoThis flavor... This is not my kind of flavor

> cap vanillas, I taste pepper in them.

It's usually TFA Vanilla flavors that make certain people taste pepper. A lot of mixers who can't use TFA VBIC use Capellas version (which are nothing alike IMO).

1 points

by TimInElmiraover 5 years ago

I've heard some people taste pepper in TFA flavors and barf in CAP v2's, but I don't. I prefer CAP VC v1, but have used v2 in some recipes and TFA VC in some. They all work for me.

1 points

by MiLlIoNs81over 5 years agoJust put the DAAP in the bottle & nobody gets hurt

If you want to "grease" a recipe\texture you can use it low as an accent. I think it would go good with apple if you're planning on adding some cinnamon anyway as it has a definite spiced note. So if you get a texture you like could add to it low enough for a bit of a fried effect.

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by dbazazian777over 5 years ago

You know who else makes a good concentrate and it's cheap, nicotine rivers brand called "sweet fried dough" I believe. I use it all the time, very similar to wonder flavors deep fried pastry dough and a bit cheaper. Flavorart "Joy" is good for fried Taste, as well as adding a small bit of any butter flavoring with these will make for a nice fried base.