As always, the purpose of this thread is to gather the community to explore a category of flavor and its many uses. And it's also to have FUN!
Post recipes containing this week's Flavor of the Week, as the star or in a supporting role, with or without development notes. Talk about other people's recipes that use it. Compare and contrast different manufacturers' versions of the FOTW. Ask for help using that flavor in general or to achieve something specific, offer advice, brainstorm ideas, consider substitutions, suggest pairings... really anything at all as long as it's on topic.
#This week, this is also where you can comment to win the Dessert-Type Flavors Pack ($70 value!) from Flavorah and the new Flavorah recipe book!
This pack includes FLV Toffee and as well as Brie Cheese, Cheesecake, Cream and Cookies, Creme de Menthe, Graham Cracker, Greek Yogurt, Marshmallow Treat, Milk, Popcorn, Red Velvet, Smooth Vanilla, Smore, Vanilla Bean, Whipped Cream, and White Chocolate.
And, check this out, FOTW now features a neat new poll where you can vote for your flavorites:
#DIY SURVEY - VOTE HERE PLEASE
##DIY SURVEY - SEE PREVIOUS RESULTS HERE
#This week's flavor is... TOFFEE!
How did that get to be the FOTW?
It was requested!
>If you're not interested in the upcoming FOTWs, please take this opportunity and comment to request one that interests you (or send me a PM to do that).
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Past FOTW posts can be found here
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The NOTED podcasts, which are basically video FOTWs, are listed on this sheet, maintained by /u/apexified
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You can find these and more in a comprehensive collection of Flavor Facts created by /u/OdieDoodah
#In case you missed it, last week's FOTW was: Cola
#Next week's flavor will be: Almond
The week after that will be: Red Apple
The week after that will be: Green Apple
The week after that will be: Applepalooza (Apples that don't fit in red or green)
The week after that will be: Gin
The week after that will be: FOTQ (new hotness)
The week after that will be: Hazelnut
The week after that will be: Macadamia Nut
The week after that will be: Tobacco Time: 'Murica FUCK YEAH! (tobaccos with America, American, USA, Cowboy, or Western in the name).
The week after that will be: Nonsense Names
The week after that will be: Root Beer
The week after that will be: Tea
The week after that will be: Caramel
The week after that will be: Cookies & Biscuits
The week after that will be: Elderflower
The week after that will be: Mary Jane
The week after that will be: Walnut
The week after that will be: Watermelon
I’m hoping to hear the magic words that will help me find the perfect Werther’s original flavor. Maybe a misnamed toffee? What’s the difference anyway between a hard caramel and toffee? Am I too young to like Werthers originals? Get off my lawn
I saved a werthers recipe somewhere, I'll try to find it for you. But I don't think people consider werthers a toffee, but more like a butterscotch or caramel. To me, like .. what is the difference?
Did you find the recipe?
Ok guys, mainly coming to make everyone aware that there is a thing called VTA HOKEY POKEY. It seems to have gone under the radar. It is an excellent Toffee, maybe their best. This one lands between VTA Toffee Ice Cream and VTA Butter Toffee Base. Tested at 3% solo, and its good. It could go higher, but found it flavourful and saturated enough. Maybe 4% for just a notch more of saturation. Toffee is almost identical to VTA Toffee Ice Cream, but the body is creamier in a buttery way. I'm hopping it gets reviewed in the show, would really like to know your thoughts on it. If you like VTA Toffee's, grab this one, it does't dissapoint. And let me take the opportunity to thank you all for what you do. It is very much appreciated. God bless you all with loads of grandchildren!
I've never mixed with toffee. Does this lend itself to a candy or a desert?
BTW, Dave and the crew do a great job every week. I felt bad for u/ID10-T last night: I'm sitting there waiting with a few people for the start of episode 141, when Dave comes on and says "I don't know where everyone is", but they eventually showed up and it was another wonderful episode. Much appreciated!
I don't know the short form, but I brought a bottle of treacle toffee by chefs flavours, on my last order, it was cheap and I thought why not, added 1% to custard now recipe, and BAM I had treacle toffee and custard, was definitively treacle (which is burnt sugar). Been experimenting with it since and its OK up to 3% on its own (recommended is 10%) but I feel I'm missing something to make it pop.
All the VT toffees are good, hard crack, ice cream, butter base & English. They go from soft and buttery all the way to heavy almost burned hard toffee. Full round of yum!
Congrats on the bull city section, super awesome to see! As for toffee, I have vt toffee ice cream but have yet to use it. I bought it to make samoa sammies by developed but I'm still having trouble finding mb bounty. Anyway, wow, how did I forget about skor bars? As always, thanks for the plethora of knowledge each week guys, very fine job!
Is it just me or is flv toffee terrible?
I haven't tried it by itself yet. Maybe it's a very difficult ingredient to work with. But it's in these recipes, and these recipes are awesome:
You're leaving out the most fun fact about this week's FOTW - It's possibly the last flavor (along with blackberry & papaya) to make it's debut on Noted. It seems like the gang have covered all the bases. Everything on the upcoming list is a repeat flavor. Are there any unexplored nooks and crannies left?
I don’t know that there are any flavor profiles left, but there have been times we’ve raced through too many flavors at once and it might be helpful to have narrower categories where we can slow down and cover a smaller number of flavors more thoroughly
so you're saying that you'd like to see requests like . . .
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Bavarian Cream instead of all Cream
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Mocha instead of all Chocolate
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Burley instead of all Tobacco
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French Vanilla instead of all Vanilla
or take the deep dive and fill in obscure corners of the flavor world . . .
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Wine - wine / sangria / moscato
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Bread - Croissant / Dough / Canolli / Cornbread
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Cream Soda - 3 of them have more than 10 recipes - hahaha
There hasn't been much information on components in aromas and their effect on recipes. For example Acetoin, Triacetin, Cyclotene, etc. Would be an idea to make a list of the most important components and some flavors to showcase their properties.
I know its a bit out of the way, but if you run out of ideas, or if the subject is interesting enough, I'm sure many mixers would love to hear more about this subject.
Noted Ep. 142: TOFFEE (ft. Fresh03)
Ranked by Emily.
VT Hard Crack Toffee: Ranked lowest because it's not toffee. Tastes like coffee with toffee. An ok coffee though. Although ID10-T thought it wasn't that great, touch of burnt popcorn off note and slightly skunky. Lingers in atomizer- won't come out of cotton. 10.19
TFA English Toffee: Pretty nasty. Toffee flavoured cheese. Tastes like it has some TFA Cheesecake in it (not TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust). Out of place astringency. Very thin. Might be possible to use it in a toffee cheesecake? 11.55
DV Toffee: No real off notes. But quite thin, not very sweet. A little dark. A little harsh. 13.19
HS Caramel Toffee: More caramel than toffee. Good, rich caramel. Very dark. Not very sweet. Would maybe be good as the top of a creme brulee as it has a rich, dark, almost burnt flavour. Not something you would build around, but tart you'd add to something to give it some extra darkness. Can be a little bit dry. Not very thick or smooth. But not astringent. 14.25
Toffee is darker and richer than caramel
FLV Toffee: As a SF it doesn't taste that great. But it's in a lot of recipes that it works really well in. A bit thin. Not as sweet as a toffee should be. It's very dark without tasting burnt and buttery. Has an odd fruity sourness that can be covered in a mix. But not the easiest toffee to work with. The easiest way to use it might be as a sweetener for a tobacco. Our use it in the same way as Milk and Honey- for adding a touch of darkness- plus some butter Recipe- Buffalo Burlington, Pheasant Ridge both by Fear Jacked up Sundae - Tam Vapes 16.18
FLV Caramel - Fear described it as golden syrup and ID10-T as Brown Sugar. The Toffee is the darker version of that.
VT Honeycomb: ID10-T's favourite in the toffee category- although not a straight, classic toffee. Rich, dark, very sweet. Slight chocolate note- more implies chocolate. Can use it to darken other things. MaxSavage used it in conjunction with something else to caramelise a pineapple in a pineapple upside down cake. Versatile. Crispy, crunchy texture. Recipe- MaxSavage used it to caramelise pineapple for pineapple upside down cake. 20.50
Also used at 6% in Honeycomb Custard recipe.
VT Butter Toffee Base: ID10-T would have put this at the bottom as has a strong sour off note, like off milk. May be butiric, but not quite enough to make it vomity, just sour. But he used at at 3%- too high! Emily used it 1% said it had a twang, but it's not unpleasant. Smells bad and tastes bad on back of hand test. At 0.5-0.75% works really nicely. Very rich and very buttery. A little dark, but nowhere near as dark as something like FLV Toffee. Would work great in a brown butter ice cream. Don't use above 1%. Gets sour. Recipe - Butter beer mix by Folkart. 22.51
FW Toffee Dream Cream: Ranked much, much lower. A highly rated flavour that people use all the time. But everyone ranked it pretty low. Astringent, thin, weird spiciness that can't be covered. Not very sweet- odd for FW. Tastes like has a lot of AP in- beyond nutty to just weird. Some vanilla cream. The only place it might work is bakeries because of the AP. May work with Yellow Cake. Or maybe a tobacco? 27.00
FW Butter Toffee: Would be ranked lower. Pretty good. More butterscotch, or buttery caramel sauce. Not quite as dark as VT Butter Toffee Base, but just as sweet. Use up to 2% max. (Used much higher on ELR- ignore that!) 29.32
VT English Toffee: Best classic toffee flavour? A really good toffee. No off notes. Very rich, very thick, very smooth, great mouthfeel. Sticky, very sweet. A little butter, but still dry enough for hard, crunchy candy type toffee. Does trail off a little in the finish, but means it would be great on top of a cream or custard. Versatile, use it anywhere you need toffee. 30.40
VT Toffee Ice Cream: Rich, very buttery. Nice sweetness. A little dark. Surprisingly good mouthfeel as the ice cream is of medium thickness. It's like FW Butterscotch Ripple but darker. Very versatile. Can use in ice creams that are darker and sweeter, Doesn't necessarily have to be toffee ice cream. A little bit fluffy and not custardy or eggy enough for some. But easily fixed with something like LB Vanilla Ice Cream or TFA Vanilla Custard II, wouldn't mess up the toffee element. But if you prefer ice cream to be fluffier it's good as is. Really nice depth and saturation. Can use as low as 0.75% to add a darker accent. Or can use at 6-7% as a SF. 32.20
Fresh03 uses 0.75% VT Toffee Ice Cream with 4% LB Vanilla Ice Cream for quick ice cream mix.
INW Horned Toffee: Amazing- Fresh's must have flavour of the week. Perfect toffee syrup layer. Rich, dark, very sweet. Authentic toffee flavour. Melted toffee sauce. Fresh used it with VT Toffee Ice Cream in a sticky toffee pudding. Not that good as a single toffee or toffee main note. Works best as an accent. 36.25
OOO Butter Toffee: Really good. Nice, rich butter. Dark sweetness. Can be a bit thin, benefits from something like a butterscotch to back it up. Very potent, use between 0.5%-1%. 38.10
**Fresh backs up all butterscotch, caramels, toffees etc with another flavour. They need layering to get a full, rich flavour- very few exceptions. Whatever the main note toffee, caramel etc is missing he will add by accenting it with another flavour. If there Not enough butter adds a butterscotch. Not enough dark sweetness adds some sort of a caramel.
Recipes:
Michigan Scone by MINikon and Addy Tuney- a lemon blueberry scone. Uses 0.5% VT Butter Toffee Base. 42.06
Buffalo Burlington by Fear Pheasant Ridge by Fear Jacked up Sundae by TamVapes All use FLV Toffee 44.17
Thanks for adding all these notes. Easy to find and very useful quick info
I’m glad someone is finding them useful. I was just about to upload the almond episode ones.
I’ve been given a corner of the DIY_ejuice Reddit to upload all my notes in one place. I’ve done a lot of the older episodes as well. It’s been hard finding the time to get that sorted. Now I’m not allowed outside I’ll get started with it. When I’ve done it I’ll make a post with the link.
No toffee in my stash yet, but I love dessert flavours, generally. Maybe some kind of Toffee Custard would be good...
Also, commenting for that flavour pack. And I must say, FLV Brie sounds intimidating af.
I just recently found that I love vaping toffee flavors! I have 3 toffee, all by vape train , toffee ice cream ( so good, so buttery) English toffee and honeycomb( love it in my custard recipe). Really looking forward to the show tomorrow! I want more toffee falvor!
So is Peanut Brittle considered a toffee? I have Wonder Flavors Peanut Brittle, this stuff is pretty good as a stand alone at like 2.5 or 3% . Only problem I have with it is any mix I try to make with it, it completely dominates it even at low % . Anyone had any luck mixing with this, if so how did you make it work.
I have no toffee flavors. Looking forward to seeing what people have to say in this thread.
Also, I saw the dessert flavor pack and Smore jumped out at me.
Anyone that's used it, what do you think of it?
> Looking forward to seeing what people have to say in this thread
For the most part, they're saying -> "I'm posting something so I can get entered in the contest for free stuff" (grin)
Like many others, I do not have any toffee flavors in my flavor stash. But I do love dessert vapes. Looking forward to Noted giving me some solid recommendations on ones to try. Sure would love to get my hands on that FLV dessert pack and recipe book!
I currently have VT Toffee Ice Cream and HS Caramel Toffee. VT I like a lot. HS...well, as some of you know, it’s like vaping on Grandma’s shawl for me.
> VT Toffee Ice Cream
That one just tasted like buttery ice cream to me IIRC. Can you taste a toffee flavor when using it?
Picked up some inw horned toffee on a sale, anybody have a good way to use it? Haven't had time to try it yet.
It is not bad, better than FLV toffee but that is not a huge achievement. I use it low in a cookie recipe, .50% if I remember correctly. It adds a little sweetness and rounds out the chocolate in there. I tried other toffees in that mix and the INW was the only one that gave me the desired effect.
I'm with you all, no toffee in the collection right now. I've looked at VT Hard Crack Toffee as my starting point. I've been digging the VT flavors. Are there any toffee flavors that aren't named with the word toffee? I feel like there are some in my collection that might lean toward toffee, but are not named as such. I may be thinking wrong, but I have always thought of toffee as being a mix of caramel, coffee, and maybe some butterscotch. Does that sound crazy? Am I making stuff up in my head again? Lol
VT Hard Crack Toffee definitely has a coffee note to it, still delicious but you will taste coffee. It is a powerful mother too, not much needed and it can overpower other flavors. I love it but it can be tricky to use
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Only 12 hours late posting this. /u/OdieDoodah you think anyone will still click?
Don't stop posting apex, the patient ones always click
Appreciate the encouragement ;)
What is discouraging is this sub is the best resource for DIY but yet new guys want a quick and easy answer.
I lurked on this sub for 6 months before placing my first order. You guys set me straight and launched me in the right direction where others have failed.
I love all my mixes and I want everyone else to as well
Though I really enjoy real toffee I haven’t had it in vape form. All of the vape train toffees caught my attention and in case anyone missed noted or hasn’t seen bull city lately, bcf is offering a 10% discount of fotw on its following week... So if you needed an excuse to order there it is. It’s definitely going to be my excuse to order next week. Looking forward to making folkart’s butter beer and maybe the 1707 cookies using butter toffee and English toffee.