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DIY salt nic juice burns pods WAY more quickly than store bought juice
submitted over 5 years ago by chainy

I've been experimenting with making flavorless eJuice and it always seems to not wick properly and burn up my coils within a day. I've tried it in both the Smok Novo and Orion DNA, and it kills a coil within a day or two.

I've experimented with PG/VG ratios of 40/60, 50/50, and 60/40. I've tried adding some water. I've tried two different salt nic solutions (Wizard Labs 100% VG and Liquid Barn 100% PG). I prefer flavorless, but I tried adding 5% Liquid Barn menthol, and I can't seem to get a juice that wicks properly.

I'm not sure what I could be doing wrong. Any advice?

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by mkweiseover 5 years agoMissing One Flavor

The only possible cause I can think of is that you might be hitting it too hard or too many times in quick succession. It does seem plausible that you might unconsciously tend to do so with unflavored juice, especially if you're accustomed to oversweetened commercial juice.

Anywhere from 40/60 to 60/40 should be fine for a pod system, just make sure you give the wicking a chance to catch up between hits.

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by stabloggerover 5 years ago

Yep, the ratios are fine and just PG, VG, nic and maybe menthol don't clog coils at all, like e.g. sucralose does. Is it a coincidence that you nick is "chainy"? No offense, if you are chain vaping that's totally fine, but your devices are simply the wrong ones for this kind of use.

I'd try lowering the nic a bit and pick a slightly bigger device, e.g. some stock coil tank on a mod. Pods are great in some situations, but their coils are really tiny and even if the wicking holes look pretty big, there isn't much cotton in them. Less contton means they are more prone to dry hits if you are vaping too fast for the coil.

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by juthincover 5 years agoI improved Grack and all I got was this lousy flair

The DNA board in the Orion should be preventing dry hits tho.

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by mkweiseover 5 years agoMissing One Flavor

Are you speaking from personal experience, or just assuming that their "dry hit protection" works as advertised?

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by it_unlimitedover 5 years ago

I use 100% VG, no flavor in my Novo and the coils last a week or 2. Which coil are you using? I only use the lower ohm one. 0.5 I think?

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by juthincover 5 years agoI improved Grack and all I got was this lousy flair

Sounds like a run of bad coils. As long as your math is right, 40:60 should not have trouble wicking.

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by Binsky89over 5 years ago

The Orion only has bad coils. They stuff too much cotton in, so you have to open the fill cap every 5 hits to let the pressure equalize.

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by cjinctover 5 years ago

There are 4 or 5 different acids that can be added to nic to create a nic salt. It's possible that whichever acids that WL or LB use are not the same as what you're used to buying and they have a detrimental effect on the coils you use.

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by DontWorryItsEasyover 5 years ago

This is very possible. Had the same thing happen to me a couple months ago. Went through about 10 coils. Probably going to dump all my salt

Edit: ordered from LB

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by mkweiseover 5 years agoMissing One Flavor

True. TMK, nicotine benzoate is still by far the most common, but it sure wouldn't hurt to ask vendors which salt(s) their products contain before buying.

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by lonedogmacover 5 years ago

I agree with the other folks, but I wouldn’t mix water in with you juice. Just thought I’d throw that out there.

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by apaulo617over 5 years ago

Lol speaking of salt nics was wondering if a drop rda running single coil at like 30 wats would be too much or nah?

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by PinheadXover 5 years agoMixes By Weight

As long as you’re not trying to do similar nic levels as a pod system you can certainly use nic salts in a non-pod device. If you hit a high nic level in a dripper, you’ll likely OD on nicotine because of the higher volume of vapor you’re inhaling

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by apaulo617over 5 years ago

How much nic do they put in a pod?

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by PinheadXover 5 years agoMixes By Weight

Well, I think Juul does 50mg/ml. Some others do 30 or 25.

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by THAT0NEASSHOLEover 5 years ago

Nah, my brother does something similar. He uses a dual coil rda at 40w with 16-30mg/ml juice(he literally eyeballs measurements). Hits like a freight train, but it's by no means a horrible throat hit. I do not recommend.

Edit: I use salt nic for my 4mg/ml juice. You don't have to use freebase if you don't want. Salt nic seems more shelf stable to me, so that's what I use everywhere.

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by th3_p0wd3rfulover 5 years agoYellow Cake Apologist

It "may" be the NIC. I own an online eliquid store and often import eliquids from USA.

1 month back, I assume NKD switched their nic salt supplier because the liquids we were recieving from them started to be fully transparent as opposed to before it has a slight yellow or dark yellow tint.

Our customers started complaining that their coils burn in a day or two. It tasted the same but coils would just burn so quick.

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by jasone414over 5 years ago

The only way I have ever been able to burn through a coil in a day or two was from chain vaping. Those juice ratios should wick just fine assuming you are vaping properly. Unless you have a run of bad coils. But if you are using two different kinds that's highly unlikely. You have to give the coil time to cool and the cotton time to re-absorb juice between puffs. Give it at least 30 seconds in between.

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by pxlcrisisover 5 years ago

Maybe flavors just help to mask off tastes from used coils for a while longer. Thatd be my guess

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