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Juice crystalized after letting sit for a couple hours. How did this happen?
submitted over 5 years ago by Says_Watt

See picture Here

The juice is made up of.
0.75% INW vanilla.
5% FA spearmint.
2.5% FLV creme de menthe.
0.75% super sweet.
2.5% koolada.

75/25 VG/PG

In sorry the juice became extremely cloudy and viscosity became near solid

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11 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 5 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

Overflavoring of the mints and coolant. Was it also cool where it was stored?

2 points
 
by Says_Wattover 5 years ago

Interesting. Nope room temperature. The other mix didn't precipitate

4 points
 
by Southern_Strangerover 5 years ago

I've also found that you need a high amount of pg in your mix to avoid precipitation of mints/menthol/cooling. I make strong (not rediculous) Menthol for a friend. I have to get the nic, pg and Menthol to mix well, and run it under warm water to mix the Menthol fully, then add the vg to stop precipitation, and I've noticed anything less than 30% pg will precipitate, particularly if it's cold

3 points
 
by TeslaDelMarover 5 years agoI Survived Grack

FA Spearmint contains peppermint oil, and you're using it at a pretty high percentage. I'm not sure of the exact reaction that's going on to give you that precipitate, but my guess would be that the spearmint is involved. Did that same thing happen to the juice in the bottle you mixed it in?

1 points
 
by Says_Wattover 5 years ago

No strangely it didn't. Though the mix doesn't have the koolada or sweetner. I was thinking it's more the CAP sweetner. When I put it into a mix it immediately precipitated but then mixed within solution. Damn, peppermint oil is on the safety list and FA peppermint is very good.

2 points
 
by JustAboveOhmover 5 years ago

If it's turning into a solid I'm betting it has to do with temp of your storage zone (Too Cold)

>2.5% Koolada

When I first seen this I immediately thought it was KoolAid ,🤷‍♂️😂🤦‍♂️

3 points
 
by RoninVXover 5 years ago

Lol when I starded DIYing I thought Koolada was Koolaid flavouring since I had never had that Koolaid shit (afaik it's lemsip basically?).

But nah Koolada is WS-5

1 points
 
by noccy8000over 5 years agoMixologist

WS-3 iinm :)

2 points
 
by ClashOrCrashmanover 5 years ago

Somewhat related, I keep my flavors in the basement now where its about 50-55 degrees F, and my bottle of TFA Koolada has precipitated a bunch of crystals. I don't really use Koolada anymore though, so it doesn't matter much to me, but I assume if I warmed it and shook it up it would go back to normal.

1 points
 
by Ialwaysassumeover 5 years ago

What type of container are you storing it in? Glass? Plastic?

1 points
 
by Says_Wattover 5 years ago

In this case it was the plastic pod that I use but it seems to have crystallized somewhat in the glass bottle as well

1 points
 
by dolphin_master_raceover 5 years ago

It's the koolada. Try warming it up a bit and shaking it.

1 points
 
by Says_Wattover 5 years ago

It's koolada just menthol crystals?

2 points
 
by stabloggerover 5 years ago

Menthol is dissolved menthol crystals, Koolada is WS-3, a cooling agent invented Wilkinson Sword. A white crystalline powder, also usually disssolved in PG. While both trigger similar receptors, it's two totally different things.

My guess: It's the high VG. Polar solvents like VG and water are bad to dissolve non-polar substances like WS-3 (and menthol), because the polar atoms like to flock together, like tiny magnets attracting each other. Heat or shaking will only help temporarily. With a non-polar solvent, like PG or ethanol, WS-3 (and also menthol) easily dissolve. If this theory is true, it should be clear at the beginning and crystalize the longer it steeps.

1 points
 
by Says_Wattover 5 years ago

Yes your definitely right. It must just be super saturated - that also explains why some mixes call for ethonal... How can I safely add ethanol? Thank you for the wonderful explanation. I love this subreddit ❤️

1 points
 
by rabidnzover 5 years agoElixir Sommelier

Koolada crystalizing

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