WEEK 46
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Hello, denizens of DIY_eJuice! Since u/RancerDS seems to be MIA for now, or taking a midseason break, I'm taking over the posting of this single flavor testing submission.
Please share any concentrates you have tried on their own. Feel free to be as detailed as you can be when describing your thoughts. Does it pass for a good solo flavor? Or is it best utilized as part of a fleshed out recipe?
Its been a long time since I've done any kind of detailed testing on my own, so for flashback purposes, and for a good laugh this morning, I'll retread some notes from....
INW Wunder Waffle (one that is a lost cause)
It was nauseating. I'm not even sure how to describe the taste I got from this flavor, but I'll do my best. There was a subtle artificial chocolate note, which I was not expecting. What hit me next was this disgusting, rotted bread, yeasty note. I've honestly never tasted anything like it in a flavor before. It was so bad I was gagging by the time I was done exhaling. Definitely unusable at that point. I don't think anything would help it, either.
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A bunch of Bananas.
SC Banana - Candy banana + nail polish remover.
FW Banana Nut Bread Black as satan’s asshole, doesn’t vape right. The banana doesn’t come through very well, it mostly just tastes like spiced bread, and there’s an extremely dark sweetness to it like the spiced bread is soaked in molasses. And it only took a few mls to start crusting up my wicks.
TFA Ripe Banana - Spiced ripe Runts with a chemical aftertaste.
CAP Banana - Clovey, waxy banana.
CAP Banana Split - Soft candy banana with some vanilla and a thick and sweet but waxy body but a bit of a weird, bitter burnt sugar aftertaste like dirty wicks.
Magical Flavours Banana - Smooth, sweet, subdued artificial/candy banana, with a thick syrupy body and an odd woody off-note.
FW Banana Split Mostly tastes like sweet vanilla heavy whipped cream. Fairly thick and very smooth. Banana on top, chocolate or other dark sweetness, and something else fruity and a little tart but hard to decipher. The banana tastes artificial, candy-like, and taken all together, the whole thing tastes like a banana split-flavored gourmet lollipop.
PUR Banana - Green underripe banana on top, that bit of greenness, mixed with overripe, like bordering on but not quite rotten, banana. Imagine using a thin, hard slice of underripe banana like a tortilla chip to scoop up a big glob of brown smelly banana goo and ingesting that.
WF Deep Fried Plantain - Nailed the doughy breaded and fried part, but this plantain is lacking in cooked fruit flavor and seems to take a backseat to some indistinct warm spice note that’s more prominent. The spice is not really clove, not really cinnamon, I’m not sure what it is, but it is fairly dominant here. It’s disappointing that it’s a bit overpowered by spice. The plantain that takes a back seat to that fried dough and spice is a bit on the green side, as if undercooked, and there’s a bit of lingering astringency here that’s either part of the fruit or a side effect of the spice. It’s more like an under ripe banana flavor than an authentic fried plantain. It is sweet overall, but the sweetness comes in more like a powdered sugar afterthought than something that dwells inside the starchy center.
MB Green Banana & Bamboo Milk Bizarre, but not “bad.” Does indeed taste like an underripe banana, but less astringent than that, on top of a cream that tastes similar to sweetened coconut milk but with an odd woody tone to it.
INW Banana - Underripe, grassy, Runts.
LB Banana Laffy Taffy mostly, but with some realistic banana that is a bit under-ripe and a little green. Also quite a bit thin.
LB Orange Banana -- Harsh and sharp by itself. Orange is actually pretty good; banana is very similar to their banana but thicker and fuller. Seems like it would be tasty with creams to smooth out some of that harshness.
FA Banana - Realistic, sightly underripe banana, all thin, dry top notes with essentially no creamy base at all.
LA Banana Cream - Laffy Taffy, without the taffy texture, thin.
DIYFS Banana Cream - Tastes like mostly LA Banana Cream, but with something added to it to make it very slightly smoother, creamier, thicker, sweeter, and more mellow, with a hint of vanilla.
SA Banana Custard - Candy banana cream flavor, a lot like Laffy Taffy. It also doesn’t really have anything super custardy about it, it’s more like a blatantly artificially flavored banana pudding, like Snack Pack. It’s not a very bold candy banana, though, it seems to be tampered down by the sweet dairy cream with some vanilla in here.
FW Strawberry Banana - Lots of candy banana, especially on top, and light artificial strawberry backnote. Sweet, smooth.
FW Banana - Tastes like Runts, sweetness level on par with Runts, feels like Runts - kinda powdery? A little thin - not very creamy - even very slight acidity like in the candy.
TFA Bananas Foster - cooked banana with a light hint of cinnamon and brown sugar, not really any rum taste like actual bananas foster, also the cinnamon is a bit off and not a full-on realistic bakery cinnamon like FLV Rich Cinn.
TFA Banana Cream - Top note is straight Runts, but light. Under the Runts, a thick creamy banana pudding, like a mixture of pudding with actual bananas and a banana Snack Pack.
SC Banana Cream Pie - Really tastes like the cheapest, shittiest version of a banana cream pie, where the prefab crust is a little flavorless, doughy, and undercooked and the banana is just banana instant pudding and the whipped cream is just cool whip. Pretty complex, very sweet flavor, maybe a little waxy or lacking in texture. Also a hint of caramel.
HS Chocolate Banana- It literally just tastes like their banana and their Australian Chocolate mixed together. So the chocolate part is a little nutty and a little dry but not gross or weird like you’d expect from a lot of chocolates. But it’s also not chocolate syrup like a banana split or the usual chocolate-coated banana coating.
HS Banana - At 1%, not a bold flavor, but it is a more realistic very slightly creamy and mostly ripe but definitely not mushy banana, while still having that exaggerated artificial banana aspect. 2% starts to get both more candied and greener, which is and odd combination.
MB Soft Banana - Very much on the realistic, natural side as far as banana flavors go, with just a hint of candy/artificial. Thick and fairly sweet with a somewhat understated flavor. Not very creamy, but creamy enough for a medium-ripe banana without any added cream.
MB Nut Banana Literally just their soft banana - that mostly realistic but hint of candy/artificial banana - with a bit of a nondescript nuttiness. They say it’s hazelnut. I guess it’s as close to something like the hazelnut flavor in coffee creamer as it is to anything else, but really it’s not clearly any specific type of nut, and it’s just an accent. That little accent makes it more interesting and flavorful and I don’t think it makes it much less versatile, it’s light enough that I’m sure it would fit right in to something like a banana milkshake recipe, just like a touch of FW Hazelnut does. It also distracts from the candy bit of the banana a bit, and makes it more like a concentrated or exaggerated banana than a fake one. It’s also a bit sweeter than the soft banana.
FLV Banana - Odd combination of Laffy Taffy candy banana top notes with a rich, very thick, sweet, ripe, banana with a silky smooth mouthfeel.
WF Banana Puree - A slight but annoying bit of cloves at 3% but very accurate banana at 2%, if a little light on flavor. One the most natural-tasting bananas I’ve tried. Creamy but only in the sense that a banana is quite creamy; not like banana + cream. No green or raw notes, moderately ripe but not mushy. Slightly sweet.
TFA Banana Nut Bread - Ripe banana top note, slightly spiced bready body. The nut note just the barest accent, really searching for it. But the banana is entirely natural and the bread is on point.
WF Banana Candy Super authentic Runts. Even seems to have a crunchy candy shell with that powdery sweet dryer inside.
SA Banana Flambe- Ripe, maybe partially cooked, banana with a caramel finish. Doesn’t really have the “char” I’d look for in a flambe but does have some of that altered flavor you get from cooking a banana. Not as intensely cooked as like pulling a piece of banana out of a banana pancake or something like that, though. Fairly soft flavor, actually, but entirely natural, nothing candy about the banana itself, although the caramel finish tastes more like a caramel sauce than actual caramelization of the soft, ripe banana.
VT Banana Custard Not really a custard. It’s more like banana cream. Competent and realistic, yet also pretty bold, banana, like a slightly exaggerated banana, right up front. The cream part is fairly thin and it finishes weak despite being flavorful though at least 3/4ths of the exhale.
Oh neat. I've had these brief notes burning a hole in my pocket. Thanks for bringing this back.
Some Papayas.
HC Papaya - Pukey papaya. It’s clear they’re using butyric acid to get that creamy rich funkiness of a fully ripened papaya. Some of the other papaya flavors do that as well, but this one seems to have gone overboard with it to the extent that it tastes very much like regurgitated papaya. Like you ate papaya, puked it up an hour later, and tried to vape it. It’s otherwise pretty flavorful and authentic to a natural ripe papaya, nice and thick and sweet, so it might be something where there’s an amount somewhere under 1% that works, or it maybe needs to steep longer than a week to be great, but my week-old sample of this tastes distinctively puked up and didn’t mess with it any further.
Magical Flavour Papaya - Not actually magical. Flavor goes quickly from a very tart and slightly floral pineapple-like tart note to a very deep somewhat cheesy ripe funkiness, without pausing long enough for the fruity midsection to shine through. It’s there, and it tastes like papaya, but the tartness and ripeness are exaggerated so much that it takes a back seat. Seems like a smaller amount might work as a kind of additive to make a flat or candy like papaya or even another tropical fruit seem more realistic with the tartness on one end and the ripeness on the other, but I wouldn’t try using it as a single flavor papaya. Might also be worth noting that it makes my mouth feel like I just ate fresh pineapple, even though it isn’t really harsh to vape.
NF Organic Papaya - Some sort of tropical creamsicle dipped in vegetable juice. I say creamsicle because this thing has a creamy finish with some vanilla that sticks out like a sore thumb covered in vanilla whipped cream. Vegetable juice because there’s a bit of a somewhat floral, somewhat piney, but mostly GREEN astringency right on top that tastes like a veggie of some sort. Maybe you’d call it a peel note. The tropical fruit in the middle tastes like some kind of orangey-colored tropical fruit, which I guess is pretty much papaya, but doesn’t exactly taste like papaya to me. This is a really strange flavor.
EF Ripe Papaya - It tastes like someone put microwave popcorn residue all over some kind of tropical fruit. It has a bit of that fake butter taste right on top, along with a honey-sweet but unclear tropical fruit that I guess could be a papaya, like a part-mango part-melon with a bit of citrus brightness. Whatever they tried to do to make it taste ripe comes across tasting remarkably like microwave popcorn butter to me.
FLV Papaya Punch - Personally, I find this flavor delightful to vape. It’s a full and deeply saturated fruity flavor. But it tastes more like a strange tropical version of peach rings candy than a papaya, a artificial-tasting peach, and even has a deep gummy candy body to it. Peach rings with some melony tropical funk to it. Maybe papaya rings, but not a fresh natural fruit. It seems like it might be a little too tropical work as part of a peach gummy recipe, but it seems like it might be a terrific base for just all kinds of tropical gummy candy recipes. Mango comes to mind first, but adding another papaya flavor could make it more clearly papaya, and it seems like pineapple, guava, passionfruit - any of those might work.
Delosi Papaya - There’s nothing blatantly wrong with it, it just has a soft, flat, sweet flavor that tastes very tropical. Not clearly papaya, but I guess it’s as close to papaya as it is to anything else. Not papaya enough to put papaya in the name of a recipe that uses this but no other papaya. Has that short of citrus + melon thing going on. Tastes more like this should be the one named “papaya punch.” It doesn’t taste like Hawaiian punch, but it does taste like some kind of off-brand “tropical punch” kool aid type drink. A bit thin, but not dry. Might make good background flavor or any number of tropical mixes or especially tropical candy mixes.
FW Papaya Natural - I can’t tell whether it tastes more like a papaya candy or a fresh natural papaya that’s a bit underripe? There’s a high tart and floral note, that’s normal for some papaya, especially when it’s not super ripe. Not perfumy, just a floral tartness. There’s a ripe accent to it, but it’s missing that deep funky tropical ripeness that should be there for a very ripe papaya. And it’s not juicy, though it is sweet. Without that deeper funkier right ripeness the sweet base comes across a little flat and candied. Also a touch on the thin side. But it’s pretty good option for a papaya that seems like it would be a bit easier to mix with than some of the others, especially if something else filled out that base a bit.
FA Papaya - Fairly authentic-tasting papaya, somewhat cantaloupe-y. Concentrated flavor but not as full-bodied and saturated as others. Maybe a good thing if room is needed other fruits. It’s missing the bit of creaminess and richness of a perfectly ripened papaya. It’s not juicy either, but it’s not thin. It has some pulpy flesh body to it and starts to get a little more candy-ish at higher concentrations, like a gummy candy. It’s a bit funky but less funky than others, un-funked enough to work in a candy. Not harsh whatsoever, it’s very smooth, seems like it might even be used to smooth out other flavors. It has a very interesting sort of warm spice note, but only very little and only at the very end of the exhale, at 2% but not at 1%.
TFA Papaya II - I don’t think it’s an improvement over TFA Papaya, but it might be better for some circumstances? It tastes almost identical, but a little less juicy, a little less deeply saturated or full. Maybe I just underdripped it by half a drop when mixing or over overdripped by base liquid by that much, but it just doesn’t seem to penetrate the olfactory quite as deeply. But basically the same.
TFA Papaya - If I had to pick it apart, I’d say it tastes like a mashup of honeydew melon, mango, pineapple, and fig, but you could also say it tastes more than anything like an extremely ripe peach with a bit of very ripe melon and difficult to define tropical-ness. Strong stuff, extra musky. Just a little too much, it has an overwhelming sort of cheesy, bellybutton-y funk to it. Not super authentic, but it is identifiable as a papaya and very clearly identifiable as very ripe tropical fruit. it’s full-flavored, sweet, deep, rich, and juicy at 2%, with no dryness, floral quality, or perfumy taste. It also has a very slight, interesting warm spice note present throughout most of the exhale and a very sweet, very juicy finish. That spice is closer to a hint of black pepper than any other spice but not exactly black pepper, either.
WF Papaya - Very much a papaya, that melony mangoey almost creamy fruit. Slightly fermented papaya nectar? It’s got a different kind of extreme ripeness than TFAs. Instead of a funk that heads off in a cheesy direction, it tastes kind of fermented, not like rotten, but like beer. In fact if you added some hops to it and touch of lime, it might taste exactly like a papaya beer I had once. It’s also very sweet, like nearly candy sweet, but more like honey than candy. It’s reminiscent of JF Honey Peach, the rest is not the same, but it has that same sort of sweetness to it. Full bodied. Saturated. Intense. Juicy. Not remotely thin or dry. Some sharper citrusy tang right on top that tastes more like mango than papaya, but nothing floral or perfumy at all. None of that odd peppery spice that TFA and to a much lesser extent FA has.
A Bunch of Cherries, in brief.
GF Cherry Yogurt - Small amount of a dark cherry-ish flavor that tastes fine, something like amaretto for whatever reason, and some sour, barfy chalky stuff in the finish.
GF Black Cherry - Tastes like drinking cough syrup in a nail salon, where a vanilla candle is burning.
OoO Red Cherry Sour Balls - New vinyl shower curtain liner (NVSCL), sweet and tart cherry candy flavor, some hairspray.
FW Cherry Balsam Tobacco - Artificial cherry, NVSCL, terpenine syrup.
TFA Maraschino Cherry - Lots of NVSCL, touch of sweet red cherry candy, bit of cough syrup as well, and harsh.
TFA Black Cherry - Strong cherry cough medicine, with a solid slug of NVSCL.
LA Cherry - Robitussin, bit of NVSCL, sweet and really strong.
OoO Happy Taffy Cherry - Mixing Nyquil and Pepto together and licking it off a NVSCL.
FLV Rainier Cherry - Sweet-tart natural cherry ruined by a ton of NVSCL.
FA Cherry - Sweet-tart red cherry ruined by a ton of NVSCL.
VT Cherry Liquor - Starts off weak but similar to a sweet cherry, but finishes tasting fermented and weird like skunky Bud Light Chelada but with cherry instead of lime.
OoO Happy Rancher Cherry -Sniffing the plastic bag that cherry cough drops came in.
FLV Cherry Filling - Very sweet, bright sort of cherry gummy candy, with a strong, odd plastic off note along with it.
OoO Cherry Pie - Weak cherry gummy candy, just a hint of plasticy ickyiness.
FLV Black Cherry - Homemade vanilla marshmallows with some cherry cough syrup and melted plastic.
FW Wild Cherry Dark, but also a bit tangy. Smooth, especially for a slightly tangy flavor, also tastes like there might be a touch of vanilla in there. Very soapy.
OoO Wild Cherry - Dark yet tart. Somewhat soapy. Some TH.
OoO Cherry Blossom Tea - Soft, dry flavor with a light greenish floral, not perfume, similar to jasmine, but muted and greener. Body that feels thick, but bland, like a marshmallow without vanilla. Just a hint of NVSCL in the finish.
FW Maraschino Cherry - Incredibly waxy red cherry, very sweet, a little almond/amaretto, slight cough syrup.
FW Swiss Cherry - Waxy red cherry, very sweet, a little almond/amaretto, a little cough syrup, some tartness and slight florality on top, a little Tahitian-type vanilla in the base, some harshness.
FW Shirley Temple - Citrus soda with a light cherry finish, some medicine with the cherry, some crayon taste, very sweet.
CAP Wild Cherry with Stevia - Very slight NVSCL, artificial black cherry flavor like black cherry soda/candy, a little grapey, slightly waxy, very sweet sugar lips sweet finish with a touch of that Stevia bitterness.
FA Black Cherry - Black cherry soda syrup with some cough medicine and a little hint of NVSCL. Sweet. A little dry, medium body. Very similar to FW Black Cherry.
FW Black Cherry - Black cherry soda syrup with some cough medicine and a little hint of NVSCL. Quite sweet. A little dry, medium body. Very similar to FA Black Cherry.
GF Cherry - Artificial “wild cherry” flavoring that’s deep and sweet like a wild cherry lifesaver, juicy and saturated, but with light hints both NVSCL and TFA Raspberry Sweet ketchupyness.
SC Cherry Cigar - Tootsie-rollish chocolate, some cherry-ish red fruit, some sweet and dark tobacco in the base.
GF Sweet Cherry Bright red cherry candy with some bright red cinnamon candy.
LB Cherry Blossom Tea - Pleasant floral with maybe a little tea in there, like a white tea, and some soft cherry, just the barest hint of NVSCL.
CAP Tart Cherry - Dull, a bit harsh, brighter, tart, candy flavor at first but some darker cough syrup on the end.
GF Cherry Poppins - Sweet and sticky bright red cherry candy with a tiny bit of hairspray.
TFA Cherry Blossom - Sweet, red, somewhat tart candy-like cherry, plus some light floral, and only the slightest hint of NVSCL.
FLV Cherry Blossom - No cherry. 100% cherry blossom. A little green and dry, slightly sweet.
MB Red Cherry - Bright and sweet cherry, deeper with a thick syrupy base, like an artificially flavored cherry syrup. Very little NVSCL.
Flavor West Cherry Crush - Very sweet and red cherry that tastes like flat cherry soda but has a thick yet fluffy texture like a cherry marshmallow. Just a touch of NVSCL.
WF Black Cherry Jelly Bean - Sweet black cherry candy flavor with some chewy candy body to it, slight NVSCL, slightly harsh.
GF Amarena Cherry - Lots of amaretto flavor, some tart citrusy taste right on top, black cherry base, odd baby powder finish.
FW Cherry Blast - Cough droppy red cherry with medium menthol.
VT Cherry - Soft, some cough syrup, starts off sweet and ends with a bit of a crisper, tart bite.
FW Cherry Berry - Sweet but a bit watered down strawberry syrup blended with a cherry lifesaver type flavor, but soft and not super saturated before it starts tasting cough syrupy.
OoO Black Cherry Flat black cherry soda after the ice melted in it. Top heavy and thin.
INW Cherry - Tart yet dark, sort of wild cherry candy flavor, thick, deep, saturated, and sweet, with very little cough syrup and even less NVSCL.
INW Cherries - Thin, light, top-heavy flavor with no body. No fleshy richness to it at all, light and airy. Sweet, but pretty dry.
TFA Cherry Extract - Dull, flat darker semi-sweet cherry, nothing at all like a bright red cherry. Weak but clean.
INW Cherry Cigar - Very sweet. Mostly middle-of-the-road cherry some drier mild grassy tobacco.
INW Black Cherry Tobacco - Should be called Black Cherry FOR Tobacco rather than black cherry tobacco. Can’t find the tobacco in it anywhere. Boldly tastes like sweet, dark cherries with a lot of body and without off notes, but instead of being juicy like a fresh cherry, it’s quite dry.
HC Sour Cherry - Sweet red candy cherry, doesn’t live up to the “sour” description, but it does have a little tartness to it. Soft but with some depth, with a sticky sweet candy cherry finish that basically tastes like a cherry lollipop. A little dry and has a very slight “green” floral on top, along with that tartness, softness, and dryness, and finishes stronger.
INW Red For Pipe Like kissing a pipe smoker who wears cherry chapstick. Like they mixed together INW Cherries, Gold For Pipe, and Dark For Pipe. There’s a bright red cherry candy right on top, a lot of that leafier gold pipe tobacco, and some of that much darker, spicier, kind of fruity smokey black pipe tobacco.
INW Black Cherry For Pipe Black cherry right on top, mostly gives way to a dark pipe tobacco that mostly takes over, though it stays a bit fruity throughout, it becomes more figgy toward the end. Taste like it’s just INW Dark for Pipe with INW Black Cherry Tobacco.
Happy Friday! What's NVSCL?
> New vinyl shower curtain liner (NVSCL)
What one's world you recommend to buy?or combine to make a good Cherry
Depends on what you want the cherry or cherries for.
JF Sweet Strawberry Cream
Tested at 3%, Citadel, Some fused clappy at 60w
First off, I am one of them unlucky ones that have a hard time tasting strawberry.
Picture a single strawberry with a dollop of cream sitting ontop of it. The strawberry is bright but does need some help, while the cream is full, it almost hits that greasey canned whipped taste. Comes off somewhat metallic after increasing the heat from chaining it. Passed those first few puffs, the strawberry dies and ends up being a sweetened cream. This could be how it is or could be my non-tasting ability.
The flavor doesn't change much after a steep, cream becomes more dense while the strawberry, bright, but fades, yet it's still resembles the original strawb canned cream idea.
Picture it being good as an accent on a bakery or in a shake type that focuses more on that fake cream than a thick milk. Enhance the strawberry with a thicker, more syrupy like flavor and the cream should holds it's own, blending into the background and not being a top note.
Overall 6/10.
Ok I’ll try to contribute something here. Bear with me
JF Sweet Strawberry Cream 10% & 3-4%. This is marketed as a one-shot so tested that high to verify. Heavy on the nose and palate. Sweet but balanced and not cloying. The strawberry part is typical JF strawberry sweet. A sweet syrupy goodness that doesn’t fade. I liken it to Nesquik strawberry syrup. I get a plastic off note though on typical Strawberry Sweet when pushed too high that is not present here. What was interesting was the cream aspect. It’s definitely their JF Cream in there. But something else like a whipped cream also. Neutral with no vanilla notes. Is above average as a one shot as there is little difference steeping between days 1-3.
Over a few weeks of playing with this I found I personally really liked it in u/id10-t’s Tootsee roll and u/ediblemalfunction’s God Milk. I feel it’s worth trying in typical strawberry and cream’s or anything where you could use to add a little more body to the mix
I have mixed feelings about this flavor. I occasionally like it solo. On those occasions I love it. I've used this in custards and a few fruit mixes.
It's easily drowned out even at 3-4.5%. I've mixed with it up to 5%, and it doesn't really shine through a mix of similar flavors except at the upper limits. By 4-4.5% there are some off notes, though. It does a decent enough job boosting other strawberries in a custard. It does a good job of adding some (very) slight sweetness and smoothing the edges in fruit mixes.
Still, I wonder how noticeable it is. Like if I'd even realize if it was left out. I find it just as easy, and more effective in most cases, to use JF Sweet Strawberry and maybe some JF Fresh Cream individually for slight sweetness, extra strawberry, or smoothing.
Generally I wouldn't rely on this flavor alone to add creaminess or strawberry. So, if there are any of these profiles present already, then why not use more of what's already there or a bit of something else that's stronger? See what I mean? It's good, but maybe I just want to love it because of how much I like it solo at 3-ish%. But even solo I can't get through more than 10-15ml before I'm ready to move on.
Edit: I use it at 2-2.5% to add to a strawberry or for some additional creaminess.
Your description is much better than mine. It is agreed always better to insert your own random fruit and cream mix. But, I felt this was exceptional compared respectively to most other fruit/cream all in one pairings from say cap, tfa, fw. So much so I felt the need to mention it here. That prompted me to start playing with it out of boredom and the results surprised myself. Flavor Jungle also likes to throw these in as free samples and this hopefully can give somebody else an idea of what to do with it within its limitations.
On a side note I have not tried this in custards and am back to the drawing board on those as I have used so much Cap v1 that I can’t stand it anymore. Starting to play with Fa custard and Tfa custard 2 this weekend and hoping to reignite my love for a good custard
You're right about it being exceptional compared to other fruit mix pairs. And I've wondered if custards might be too strong for this to work with as a rule. It's awesome for stand alone. Have some mixed up right now at 3% I do believe.
Side note: I'm totally in love with some TFA Vanilla Custard II. It's fire. I've got a mix I've been enjoying of TFA Van Custard II 4%, FA Custard Premium 2%, and FLV Cream 1% for the base. Maybe add a little Cap New York Cheesecake .5-1%.
With CAP Lemon Meringue Pie 2.5% and JF Lemon Juicy .5% it makes a damn good lemon custard.
The TFA Custard 2, FA Premium, and the FLV Cream were meant to be together.
Did you just sub Sweet Strawberry Cream for the Sweet Strawberry in Tootsee Roll? At the same % or a different one?
INW Black for Pipe: I know this is a classic, but it doesn't hurt mentioning it again. Just mixed it again and it's still among of the best non-NET tobacco flavours in my opinion, one of the few that can easily be vaped solo. Rich, dark, pipe tobacco taste with a hint of prune. No real smokiness, no ash. Slightly leathery, a hint of dark honey. Very realistic flavour without any strange off notes. I'd aim for 3-4%, personally using 4% in an MTL setup. 9/10
FLV Virginia Tobacco: My opinion might be controversial, but this FLV tobacco is just a fail. Virginia is relatively sweet and has a characteristic hay note. This one tastes like fresh, green leaves and wood, basically like vaping an oak tree with some weird extra medicinal note. The flavour is strong, even at 0.25% in a mix it screams "Hi, here I am, your green oak flavour".
I vaped a lot of bad tobaccos, from "burnt old socks" to "cat pissed in my pipe", it's not that nasty, but weird and just wrong. I know this green, leafy flavour wants to imitate hay, but by mixing some generic fresh leaf and wood you don't get hay. 2/10
INW Gold Ducat: Another classic, a pretty authentic cigarillo taste, 3-4% solo, decent. Darker, mild but full taste tobacco, no ash or smoke, very balanced, some dried raisin and dark, concentrated apple syrup in the background, hint of vanilla. A little sweet, but not RY4 sweet and without any caramel. I also get a minimal note of this typical INW honey, dark honey stored in a leather pouch.
One of my favourites aside from NETs, 10/10. Maybe I'm a little biased because the tobacco house juice of my local vape shop I quit smoking with is simply a Gold Ducat liquid.