So basically I had a little bit of Holy Holy Grail RY4 left, finally got the FLV flavors, and when I went to mix up Cardinal my brain goofed and just about 5x'ed the tobaccos. I used all my remaining Holy Holy Grail in this mix of 100+ml. I got really bummed and threw it in my drawer a couple of months ago.
Now I'm super burned out from vaping the same FA Soho constantly and wondering if I can salvage this mix by diluting it down using some flavors I already have + more pg/vg? I'm willing to mix up small 5-10ml batches of any flavor combos you kind folks might think would be good.
PS: I also posted these flavors in the Suggest-a-recipe thread because I'm in dire need of mixing up something new in general to vape (my ADV are just single flavor FA Soho and TFA RY4D). Anything I've ever added to Soho/RY4D (except a few drops of honey per tank) has resulted in a dry blah taste, maybe because I just dont know percentages.
If you think there's anything tasty I could possibly make I would be extremely thankful your help!
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Currently I have:
TFA RY4D
TFA Acetyl Pyrazine
TFA Vanila Swirl
TFA Toasted Marshmallow
TFA Marshmallow
TFA Chai Tea
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FA RY4
FA Soho
FA Maple syrup
FA Honey
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CAP Carmel
CAP French Vanilla
CAP Vanilla Custard V1
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FW Butterscotch
FW Hazelnut
INW Biscuit
Hangsen RY4
DIYFS Metro Man
FC Carmel toffee
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FLV Cured Tobacco
FLV Kentucky Blend
FLV Red Burley
If I were in your shoes, I would go to AllTheFlavors dot com and open an account. When you do, you can add your flavor inventory and from there you can click "What Can I Make". It will cross reference your flavors with the recipes on the site. All the flavorings will be listed by weight, volume and percentages if you decide to mix them.
Holy shit dude! This is awesome, I added my small list of flavors and I have what's needed to make both Maple Art and Budderstotch by Fear! Many, many thanks!
No problem u/fackyuu
It's really a decent tool. You can search your flavors and then place an order for your missing ones for future recipes too.
Soho Time is my favorite way to use Soho. Get some fa meringue, the recipe is just 7% Soho, 3% fa meringue. Just smooths it out and gives a nice mouthfeel, have probably made more of this than any other recipe I have found since starting diy
The hhg will be very diluted so barely noticeable in the mix. You could try adding the 4x amount of hhg v2. Its kinda watered down compared to the OG but i tried this exact mix with the v2 and it was not bad tbh. If you cant get a hand on the v2 i would go with tpa ry4d at 4-6% to get the dark caramel vibe. If i understood right you have the flavor Base ready? Try making 10ml testers and see how it goes. Again it will be not cardinal but it will be def vapable
3.0% Cured 1.5% Red Burley
Is a decent mix, especially after a few days steep. Might could add a splash of French Vanilla for fun, maybe 0.5% or even less.
I've found FLV Milk & Honey to be incredible for adding to tobacco mixes, and it works so well. Especially with a few other additives, like FW Graham Cracker.
Dilution is an option - But since you didn't quintuple the amount of HHGRY4, that is going to become very diluted.
I don't see how adding anything other, than more VG/PG to the mix can salvage it unfortunately.
Thanks for the reply! I've tried diluting using just more pg/vg and it's not terrible but doesnt come alive like a good mix, I was wondering more about if there'd be a way to first dilute using pg/vg and then add some other flavorings like another RY4 and/or some of the vanillas I have to make things more interesting (fully aware it won't be accurate Cardinal)?
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Or any combos with butterscotch or caramel for that matter to could make something interesting, I just have no clue how to use these flavors, % wise or combo wise.
I don't get it. Why don't you put in 5x of every other ingredient in it?
Sorry maybe I wasn't clear in the post, I used up all my remaining Holy Holy Grail to make this big bottle.
Oh now I get it I thought you used 5x of it and used it all up.
I don't know how much of a key ingredient it is, but you could still dilute it so it's the normal ratio for the other ingredients.
But yeah the other people who have experience with the flavors posted probably have a better idea then me.
You fucked up. It happens. Call it a loss and chuck it. Move on. I don't know about you but my time is worth far more than the value of that 100ml bottle of diy and the hours spent trying to fix it.
Yeah I feel you, I live in Asia tho and it takes a long time for flavors to arrive here and I have to pay 30% tax on imports too. I was thinking since HHG is an RY4 with heavy vanilla that maybe I could just add some extra stuff to make it semi vapable. I will check out the discord thread mentioned about cloning HHG and see if any info there will help out!
So... 8% hhg, 1.25% Ky and 3.75 rb?
I would just double the base and have 4% hhg, 0.63% ky and 1.9 rb.
Taste that and ask yourself what you may want to add to it. Divvy it up into 10mls and go to town one at a time.
More sweet? Add 2-4% TPA ry4x2 or milk and honey 1-1.5. More vanilla? Flv smooth 0.1-0.3. More creaminess? Vanilla ruyan custard 1. More nuttiness? Flv Arabian 0.2 or some actual nut. More woodsy? Flv bourbon 1. More spice? Flv clove 0.1-0.3. Or flv wood spice 0.07-0.1.
Wanna get funky? Add some apple and maple. Or Apple and brown sugar. Or Apple and more caramel. Or coffee. Or a hint of flv milk chocolate and some raspberry. Or...
If you ever want to order Vanilla Ruyan Custard I can't recommend Red Dragon Cartel enough. This stuff is single handedly turning me into a DL vaper because I can't get all the flavor in my mtl setups and it's just so good!