I’ve got a pretty good Reds Berries Iced clone. Never tried it without the WS-23 though

FA Fugi 4%

INW Two Apples 1%

CAP Doubke Apple 1%

FA Forest Fruit 3%

CAP Harvest Berry 1.5%

INW Shisha Strawberry 1.5%

FW Blueberry 1.5%

INW Cactus .5%

FA Pear .5%

FA Lemon Sicily .75%

WS-23 1.5%

CAP Super Sweet .5%

I was really hoping I could help with a recipe tailored to your interests but I’m not very experienced in apple or lemon. Looks like this other fella got you covered though :)

Based on the amount of time you’ve been DIY I assume you’ve tried Prickly Victory? It’s a super simple recipe that’s packed with flavor. Sweet guava and cactus.

Also, if you’ve ever tried Mega (or Monster) Melons by Cuttwood, a very close recipe is:
5% TFA Cantaloupe
5% TFA Mango
3% TFA Papaya

This is prob my favorite DIY recipe I’ve used so far, although I have 3 different recipes of strawberry nesquik steeping that I’m SUPER hyped to try out.

I’ve been trying to find a solid clone for Skwezed Green Apple. That is one of my two fav commercial juices and from what I’ve read, people can’t seem to come very close. If you are living in a state without a ban, I highly recommend you try it. I’m going to start working on a clone for that one myself with the next order I put in.

3% forest fruit 2% tfa wild blueberry 1% fe lemon

I don't know the blueberry lemon that you're referring to but this is still my most vaped mix. It's clean and tart and it just does the trick for me as a fruit vape person.

I also almost only vape fruit vapes.

My current two favorite recipes are:

- Philipine Mango (TPA)
- Mango (Flavorah)
- Sweet Strawberry or Strawberry Ripe
- Raspberry (INAWERA) // Just a tiny bit as it's powerfull, 0.5% max

2nd recipe:

- Apple (Tart Green Apple) (TPA)
- Blueberry Extra (TPA) (0.5%)
- Fuji Apple (FA)
- Peach (Flavorah)
- Shisha Strawberry (INAWERA)

Sometimes I add Bavarian Cream, tastes more creamy but coil get's faster brown and needs more frequent changes.

Forest Fruit I find too harsh.

>I started at 60 just because I wanted to create a full bottle and thought I would be able to add flavor/modify mixes that I'm making...but that clearly isn't the case.

That's actually more reason to start with small batches to test before ramping up to 60ml, is you can modify any size mix but if you have to modify 60ml vs 10ml, you're potentially wasting 6x more supplies.

Well DIY or DIE is a type of guy that laughs at his own jokes and likes the smell of his farts so it obviously wont taste anything like he says it will. I recommend some stayberts sodas, find him on alltheflavors.

There is something more to this then. I've never had the actual Red's Apple Juice, but I have mixed that recipe from Wayne as listed, many times and love it as it is. It is a great pure apple.

You're correct, that recipe isn't even remotely close to Reds. Wayne is not good at cloning and doesn't have tastebuds anywhere near as good as he pretends, that's why his clones are "remixes" so he can excuse the inaccuracy..

I have an apple recipe that took me over a year of obsessive wastefulness, cause I was aiming to recreate the taste of biting into a fresh apple. It's considerably different than Reds, because it's more realistic and more like an actual apple instead of apple juice. Reds is more like a sweet apple juice blend in comparison.

I'm not willing to give away the recipe in its full form, but if you're interested I'll give you a slimmed down version that will likely taste much closer to what you're looking for.

Weighing is absolutely fine. No need to be concerned with specific weights and such. Firstly because many recipes have been created with a scale instead of by volume. Secondly because the difference in specific weight between flavors is neglible, and not going to ruin the juice. I personally overdrip by a larger margin than weighing inaccuracies.

Huge mistake, way to much to keep up with weighing. Keep it simple! Have you gone to e liquid recipe dot Com? Lots of proven recipes to make on there. Also has a good data base of flavors from different companies.

Get a good single coil, your recipes will be much more tolerable

Yeah, my mistake. sorry I see that now. Did you like any commercial juices? Do you still vape them as well as DIY mixes?

Did you see my comment about commercial juice? I only ask because when I first started mixing I got major vapours tongue. I think because I was getting used to not having the same level of sweetener (although that is only my theory). Apparently it’s fairly common for people to get vapours tongue on and off for the first year or so of mixing.

I was thinking maybe if your still vaping commercial stuff with lots of sweetener you’re never adjusting to not having it? I dunno, it’s just a theory and maybe I’m totally wrong.

I remember being really disappointed with everything I mixed, both highly rated recipes and my own mixes for ages. I couldn’t understand how everyone else was able to pick out this subtle notes in flavours. But it did get better.

What really helped was to single flavour test similar flavours together (for example a few custards from different manufacturers) and write notes in the differences between them. It helped train my palate a bit more. I’m not saying I have the best palate now but I’m working on teaching myself to critically evaluate flavour etc. concrete river wrote an article on here that really helped me. I’ll find it and try to link it.

Maybe my theory is totally wrong and none of this is any help to you whatsoever. But maybe have a look at the article?

I can’t work out how to link it sorry- it’s called FAQ Friday: Single Flavor Testing (There’s a part 1 and part 2)

I've made a couple from ATF that were also bad.. I have around 120 different flavorings and enjoy diy and the challenges of it though.. but ELR and ATF are not so different in quality.