I have two 500ml bottles, 100% VG and 50/50 VG/PG, and I am after some advice on the easiest way to calculate a 70/30 VG/PG mix using the 'eJuice Me Up' Recipe Calculator, or any Calculator for that matter.
The calculators I've seen obviously do take into account the PG in the Flavorings and Nic Base, but there doesn't seem to be an easy way for me to calculate how to combine the two base juices to make my desired VG/PG mix, when not using pure VG and pure PG. If anyone can recommend a different Calc more suited to my needs I'd be happy to hear it too.
try LiqCalc It has quite a range of mix options (Base + Flavor, Base + Base, Base + Base + Flavor, etc..)
This is a good calc but the multiple base option only works with Nic Bases, not Dilutants. (like every other calc I've seen) If I add bases with 0% Nic it just ignores it in the recipe.
I think the only way to go unless I can find a calc that lets me add multiple / pre-mixed Dilutants, is just to calculate the recipe as usual to 70/30, then ignore the 100% VG and 100% PG values and try to work out on my own how much of each bottle of VG and PG/VG I need to add to bring it up to 70/30. Bit of a head scratcher. Wish I had paid more attention in Maths class now.
If you are on android, try the app version. I know it used to let me do it in the past, unless they removed the option for some reason.
Installed it but, like the website version, it only lets you add multiple Nic Bases. If you set the base at 0 Nic it just ignores it in the calculations, so unfortunately this isn't a work around.
Looks like I'm stuck with just having to calculate it on my own after I've created the recipe, until someone adds the option to used mixed dilutants to thier calc.
That's a tough one. The help section for eJuice Me Up says not to use a combined base, so I don't think the program will be of much assistance.
You could add VG and PG by volume. When you're adding PG, add twice the volume of 50/50 base, then subtract the PG total from the VG total and add the difference in 100% VG.
That's not a great solution, so hopefully someone else has a program that lets you use combined bases.
Are you just trying to mix an unflavored juice? In a 60ml bottle, fill 36ml of your 50/50 mix and then fill the bottle with VG. That gives you 42ml (70%) VG and 18ml (30%) PG.
If you're trying to mix flavor and nic, you're on your own.
Yeah trying to make recipes using my 100% VG and 50/50 bases.
When I bought them it seemed like a great idea for the cheapest way to get about my desired 30% PG, it's only when I went to use the calculators that I realised that I've made things difficult for myself.
Surprising that there's not more people with this issue, or calculators that let us use mixed/ multiple dilutants.
The most you'll be able to get of a 70/30 solution is around 835ml. Add 335ml of the 50/50 to the 500ml of 100% VG, and you'll have 835ml at 29.94/70.06% PG/VG.
So you are trying basically to get 70/30 out of a bottle of 100% vg and a bottle of 50/50 pg? Correct me if I'm wrong...
But anyways it's seems like the easiest solution would be to to change your target vg/pg to adjust for the 50/50 mix....
So 50% of the 30% pg would be ACTUALLY vg.... So you adjust the recipe 15ml(50% of the 30% pg) in either direction....
Set your target vg/pg to 55/45 (70 minus 50% of the 30... /.... 30 plus 50% of the 30ml)
This accounts for the 50/50 mix because you are ACTUALLY making your mix a 70/30 but the calculator thinks you are using 55/45. Because the calculator doesn't know that the pg is actually 50% vg.
I really hope my math works out here but the tl;dr is....
Change your target vg/pg to 55/45 and that should be correct.
Sorry meant to say adjust it 15% in both directions. You're basically saying instead of 100% vg and 100% pg.... You have 150% vg and 50% pg. So you have to adjust each side of your target by 50% of the pg value to get both to equal 100% again.
For example if you were trying to make the mix 50/50.
You would actually put in 25/75 as your target. Hope this is making sense.
Cheers, I'll give this a shot. Seems like the best work around.
I'm just surprised that there's so many good calculators out there, but none have considered the fact that not everyone has/ uses only 100% VG and 100% PG.
The 500ml bottles were much cheaper per ml than the smaller ones so I thought I was being smart by buying a 50/50 PG/VG bottle.
Yea I hear yea. I just started mixing when I got my kit for Christmas and now I'm balls to the wall I've already made like 6 or 7 recipes.
But yea, this SHOULD work and you shouldn't have to make any major adjustments.
Just think of it as for every 2 ml of the pg vg mix you add, one of those ml is getting added to the vg total and taken away from the pg total. So in your 70/30 mix, you're ACTUALLY getting a 85/15 mix... So just take 15 percent from the 85 and give it to the 15 by putting 55/45 as your starting value which should result in a 70/30 mix. This was really fun trying to figure out actually thanks!