I am new to DIY. Seeing as I have no idea really what I am doing yet, I figured liquid barn base with some flavors seemed like a good starting point. However, I mixed to their specification in terms of percentage and the just seems really mute. I just got a profile RDA and even on that I can barely taste anything.
The flavors I got are vienna cream, cinnamon roll, and creme brulee. I let them steep at least a week and some of them going on 3 or so weeks. They taste really good on my finger. I can't understand why they have such mute flavor when vaped. I mean I can taste pretty much nothing at all.
I figured maybe those flavors are better in a recipe rather than a standalone flavor so I ordered a tastemaker to try out (moonsugar). Have yet to try it as it is steeping.
Any advice? I am frustrated.
P.S. using their 80vg/20pg base. Should that matter much for flavor?
As others have said, its not too common for a single flavour to be amazing in a vape.
I really recommend checking out alltheflavors.com and looking at recipes and just buying flavours for those instead of buying ones you hope taste good by themselves. I honestly can't name off the top of my head any good single flavours that have amazed me period.
We do have threads like this which focus on single flavour testing, you may find some single flavour goodies from those, but its not a guarantee.
About your PG/VG Question, yes PG carries more flavour and VG heavier juices don't have as good as flavour, but I do not think that is the problem and I don't think mixing at a higher PG will fix anything.
I understand feeling frusturated, but just remember its a process and we all learn through things not working out. If you need any help, feel free to DM me, or you can even join our discord and get live chat help from a ton of people, we will even check out your orders and give you advice on that :) http://link.diyejuice.org/discord
I really only like 2 liquid barn flavors - dew mountain (it's mountain dew), and baker's touch. You'd never used baker's touch alone. I'd add it to any of those base flavors you mentioned and it would make it better, IMO. And a little goes a long way.
doing a bit of single flavor testing on liquid Barn strawberry cheesecake right now and I have the same general consensus kind of mute. It's a good base but you need to add things to it really gets a flavor out of it. I ordered some moonsugar myself I haven't tried it yet though I've been letting it steep, I don't even bother testing my dessert mixes and custards before 2 weeks. so far in my experience the one shots are nice but most of their liquid Barn brand single flavors by themselves sure ain't my ADV.
Although there one shot Quik from DIY or die has a nice mouth feel to it. and even if a little muted I really like the flavor combination of the muffin man concentrate from one hit wonder. Apple muffin with hints of cinnamon, sounds like that might be one you'd be into as well. (Dictated on mobile lots of typos.)
"The Man" one shot is pretty good too. Tastes just like strawberry milk.
Ya? Mine is still steeping, getting more of a strawberry custard so far. Or maybe a strawberry shortcake, but it hasn't quite been two weeks yet. So far it's good though, but far as strawberry milk preferring the Quik at least on my current setup. Edit: running Aegis X at 60w on mesh single Cerberus tank.
Have you tried one shots? I don’t think there’s many single flavours that’ll work on their own and be amazing.
I tried the Profile RDA and it was the worst flavour I’ve ever got off any RDA, RTA etc and I’ve tried loads. I know it’s subjective but I personally find the flavour is really flat, any nuance in the recipe doesn’t come through plus it takes a ton of cotton every time you rewick. Maybe a different RDA would help too? I dunno. Everyone likes different things.
So I tried a one shot and found it to taste pretty damn good comparatively to any single flavors. Though I still haven't touched the profile again yet. I ordered a single coil RDA (the .blank) and am waiting on that.
I also ordered a scale and all the flavors to make one of the DIY or Die top votes recipes from the past (lemon meringue pie I think it was) and am going to make that and in general start using ATF and build an inventory :)
Sounds good. Sorry I’m still bitter about that bloody Profile RDA! I tell literally everyone this cos it helped me sooo much, especially when I was just beginning-watch or listen to Noted. It’s on the DIYORDIE YouTube channel and available as a podcast.
It’ll help you to avoid buying a ton of crappy flavours, trying to get them to work, failing and then you think it’s you and not the crappy flavours you’re trying to use and get disheartened. Plus they’ll tell you which flavours are some of the best to buy for particular profiles. They do a different profile each week like custards, strawberries, nuts etc. It also really helped me to start thinking like a mixer- there’s just so much info and so many episodes.
Also, there’s Developed and Mixin’ Vixens which are great as they give you a chance to see how established mixers put recipes together and why they use the flavours they do etc.
It’ll honestly help you out so much. I take short notes on each flavour they talk about on Noted. I use EverNote partly cos you can use tags. I tag each flavour they discuss so then I can go back later and easily find notes on all sorts of flavours.
More pg = more flavor. Try playing with 70/30 or 60/40.
Also I really don’t know many flavors that are great by them self 8 believe FW has a cinnamon roll that is good standalone. IMO a good recipe with a higher percentage of PG should help
Cool thanks for the recommendation.
Increasing PG is not going to solve your problems