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Who came up with the 10-15% rule
submitted almost 6 years ago by youwanttoknowme

And why do people feel as though they have to stick to it? Ive made plenty of recipes that are 20-25% and taste amazing but ive also made recipes that are 1.5% that are amazing as well, surely if it tastes good it tastes good you shouldnt worry about how much total there is

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22 points
 
by modivinalmost 6 years agoMissing One Flavor

No one, as there is no such rule.

3 points
 
by youwanttoknowmealmost 6 years ago

Well some people think that there is in fact there was a response just today about it on the unicorn milk thread

10 points
 
by modivinalmost 6 years agoMissing One Flavor

Some people also think the earth is flat.

There is no rule. However a high percentage of flavor is usually an indication the recipe is probably old or overcompensating.

Also too much flavor leads to less flavor more often than not.

5 points
 
by Morgan_Druryalmost 6 years agoCoil Sauce Sommelier

They're about as ridiculous as the people that think Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.

Usually the more layers I add to a mix, the higher the percentage. 20% is pushing it, but in that scenario there's anywhere from 10 to 15 flavors in the mix.

1 points
 
by Entropical-islandalmost 6 years ago

Recently a lot of my juices started tasting bitter, and I was constantly getting "vapers tongue". I tried cutting the flavor down about 25% and now they taste fine. Not sure why it was too much flavor all of a sudden, but I'm not complaining.

9 points
 
by clashyclashalmost 6 years ago

I used to think this was a rule. People don't need to downvote you because you are trying to learn. It can feel kinda toxic in here sometimes. That's why I rarely say anything in here. Not to say I haven't learnt a lot here because I have. Just can feel a little snobbish. Good on you for asking questions and learning.

4 points
 
by youwanttoknowmealmost 6 years ago

Ive been mixing for around 5-6 years but this whole 10-15% thing just annoys me because it limits peoples imaginations, its like having 100 crayons but being told to limit yourself to 5 colours

1 points
 
by ___Paladin___almost 6 years ago

It's mostly just a way to give people with no experience a ballpark to start with. If you are making recipes under and over already, then you are beyond needing ballpark estimates =)

-13 points
 
by HettDizzle4206almost 6 years ago

I know a LOT about vapes, mixing, and battery safety and making coils, but don't have time to reply to all the kids on here like vape nashe bro, but the fellow above us is entirely correct. There's no (science) I even quit using a scale, because why tf not just count drops and use syringes? When I'm using a syring more I often than not to get it into the bottle, or funnel on the scale anyways? Feck it. I'll vape zero flavored nic, or just straight VG like I've had to do before. I need nic. Bottom line. But as I mature further into vape, I'm becoming a bit of a bartender mixer and flavor snob hahah

6 points
 
by saybeautifulthingsalmost 6 years ago

wat

4 points
 
by armalite_isforloversalmost 6 years ago

That's a whole lot of words to say absolutely nothing.

3 points
 
by modivinalmost 6 years agoMissing One Flavor

https://i.imgur.com/FbxksA9.jpg

2 points
 
by DannyHallamalmost 6 years ago

Shut your trap you know diddly squat

1 points
 
by kanoyoushialmost 6 years ago

> There's no (science)

https://imgflip.com/i/3hfzpa

2 points
 
by youwanttoknowmealmost 6 years ago

I think i worded thos whole thing wrong what i meant is why do people believe that this is the magic number?

4 points
 
by modivinalmost 6 years agoMissing One Flavor

Because that's an average margin most good recipes seem to fit in, I presume.

4 points
 
by kuri_sanToualmost 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

once you start mixing you figure out how low you can go and going high doesent necessarily make the flavor outstanding

6 points
 
by Foxer604almost 6 years ago

It's not really a rule, it's more of a guideline. It tends to help new users who think more percentage means more flavour, which of course is really not true beyond a point. So by recommending people stay under 20 percent and shoot for more of a 15 percent or less rule you encourage better mixing skills and better results on average.

That is not to say you can't have a mix that's over 20 percent and not good, nor does it mean you can't have a 5 percent mix that isn't good. But on average you want to shoot for that 10 - 15 percent range and you're better off combining two flavours instead of just jacking one flavour through the roof.

It works - and like most rules once you learn it and master it you will know exactly when to break it :)

5 points
 
by Squigglificatedalmost 6 years ago

It’s a horrible guideline - particularly for beginners. I wasted so much time at the beginning mixing flavorah flavors at 10%. I didn’t know different flavors came in wildly different strengths and had read several places that 10% was a good starting point. It wasn’t. I wish someone had told me to mix some of those flavors at 0.5% when I first started.

2 points
 
by kuri_sanToualmost 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I spent 6 months on this subreddit figuring that out

2 points
 
by Jigsaw314almost 6 years agoOne of "The Damned"

The guideline for flavor testing (in the sidebar somewhere I think) suggests testing FLV (and FA/INW) at 1-3% if I'm not mistaken. CAP/TFA at 5%. This typically means that you will use less than that (per-flavor) in a mixed recipe.

Unfortunately there is a lot of awful DIY advice published on the internet.

3 points
 
by DrBrogboalmost 6 years ago

It's not a rule for me, but as a cheap bastard, I don't want to be putting 30mL of flavoring in every 120 I mix up.

For pod systems, 25% total flavoring is fine with me, since a 120mL alone will last me just short of 2 months, but for sub-ohm and RDAs, I can kill a 120 in about a week. So, unless the flavor is world-shatteringly fantastic (which I haven't found yet), I'm just not willing to shell out the kind of money it would take for recipes over about 15% total flavoring.

2 points
 
by DannyHallamalmost 6 years ago

It depends on the brand. Flavour Art, Flavorah, Real Flavours, Wonder Flavours, Inawera 1-5% / Capella, Flavour Apprentice, Flavor West 10-15%

It really depends on the flavour though as some are stronger than others

2 points
 
by LarryPer123almost 6 years ago

I go to bull city vapors look at the flavor I want and then read the customer reviews and see what they have done

7 points
 
by kuri_sanToualmost 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

this is the wrong way

1 points
 
by upboatugboatalmost 6 years ago

It's a general rule of thumb. With any rule there are always exceptions. LA watermelon and TFA dragonfruit are two that I would vape at 13% and you could push the total to 20% with other flavors. Alot of fresh fruit flavors can also be pushed past 10%, however candy/syrupy fruits don't.

1 points
 
by N3moHoesalmost 6 years ago

I think it stems back to the days when we only had cap and tfa as options where 10-15% was perfectly reasonable. Doesn't work these days when a single drop of flv rich cinnamon in 10ml is more than enough.

1 points
 
by DarknessEyesPTalmost 6 years ago

If its above 10% i dont even buy it 😂

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