WEEK XXXVII
Not wanting it dank, dark and dreary.
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Greetings dear DIY'ers. Curious if anyone had sampled any concentrates in the past few days? Wouldn't it be great to have folks share their findings here? To let us know what they thought about the various offerings so we can round out our shopping lists?!? See last sentence as to basis
Remarkably, there is plenty for me to test stand-alone. Have over a couple of cake flavors from Bickford to try, a modified Virginia tobacco from Euroflavor and DX versions of Peanut Butter and Sweet Cream from TPA. There are also four "additive" types that I haven't tried by themselves. Because they, well, they are already well known for their impact. These include INW Biscuit, CAP Cereal 27, TPA Cotton Candy and their DX Marshmallow.
At some point, I will resume testing them out individually. There are probably five more off the top of my head that I need to push the percentages much higher from previous sampling. Guess with the colder and sometimes wetter conditions outside, will have fewer excuses in avoiding it.
There is a 68% to 71% chance that I will not post next Thursday, being that it's Thanksgiving. Happy Turkey Day to all U.S. peeps if you don't hear from me. The following day will be Black Friday. That will be the day we might find great vape gear at huge discounts and HOPEFULLY some for DIY supplies!!!
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OSDIY Blue Raspberry Slush: This may be my new favorite candy flavor. u/tylurnt1 did a great review of the flavor which can be found here. It tastes pretty damn close to a blue raspberry candy, specifically Jolly Ranchers. At the suggestion of u/Foment_Life, I mixed up 6% OSDIY Blue Raspberry Slush and 1% INW Raspberry. I think he should publish that simple recipe now because I went through my 10ml tester in less than half a day which is a lot for me. I am excited to try some published recipes using this one.
Just bought the same tired it as a stand-alone and it’s good not as good as my ivg blue slush but still good just made up some testers with a bit of sweet strawberry and one with raspberry to see if it tweeks it a bit. After which if its good I might add a bit of koolada. I did try some with a bit of super sweet but it killed it. One thing to note it does improve after 4 days steep. I find it becomes more wholesome
Tried FLV Chocolate Deutsch around 2%. Pretty fucking delicious. Great chocolate cake flavor and the coconut is blended in perfectly in my opinion. Let my little brother try it and he said it was the best ejuice I had ever made. Pretty sure I gave him the fucking look of death considering all the different shit I've made him over these few years lol. But really goes to show what a really good flavor this is on it's own.
I've never mixed, not even once. I have, however, have been collecting information from the sidebar, wiki and many videos for my first purchase.
There is a popular poster here that goes by the unfortunate name IDIOT, I'm hoping the name is ironic and he isn't actually much of an idiot, anyway. This IDIOT does a show called "Noted".
In [Noted: Ep 123] they cover chocolate cake quite a bit. Right out of the gate they say "Single Chocolate Cake flavors are dismal", the recommendation is build chocolate cake out of seperate chocolate and cake flavors. I realize tastes are subjective is the opinion that "Single Chocolate Cake flavors are dismal" common and what chocolate cake base could you recommend?
More Custards.
EF Tobacco Vanilla Custard - Neither tobacco nor custard. Some of that dirty tobacco-ish RY4 tobacco without the caramel but with some dark syrupy sweetness underneath. Very sweet and forward vanilla with a light creamy undertone, but no custard notes, a bit of plasticy fruity chemical off-note... but basically just dirty vanilla. This is shit compared to competition like WF Vanilla Ruyan Custard and INW Vanilla For Pipe.
EF Vanilla Custard - Candy sweet French vanilla upfront with some milky cream underneath it and some darker sweetness in the middle. Tastes about what I’d imagine a vanilla-pudding flavored lollipop would be like, except for that odd dark and syrupy sweetness right in the middle that tastes like Karo dark corn syrup. Strange, sticky sweetness, not quite sugar lips, but close. Has a creamy dairy flavor but more of a sticky, hard candy mouthfeel than a custardy richness, and even a bit of that hairspray sort of off-note you get with FW Hard Candy. Maybe a slight buttery flavor but no eggy thing here. I could have some fun with this but that is in no way a custard, and I could almost clone it with CAP French Vanilla and FW Hard Candy.
Chef’s Flavours Spotted Dick & Custard - It mostly tastes like musty dried fruit, and the room I tried it in still reeks of that days later. It’s something like a very rich bread pudding or cake, with lots of raisins in it, and I think usually served with pourable custard poured over it. I’ve never had the homemade version, which I hear is amazing, I’ve only seen it in a can in stores and haven’t felt like buying canned raisin bread pudding. Anyway, I barely get any bready bakery notes from this one. It mostly tastes like raisin vanilla custard, and there’s not a lot of separation here, so rather than custard with raisins in it, it tastes like raisin-flavored custard with vanilla. More than anything it tastes like raisin, but that’s at a two-week steep, maybe longer and the raisin calms down? They recommend four to six weeks. Has that musty taste that raisin concentrates have, despite being really sweet. The vanilla is apparent and it has that rich, buttery, thick custard feel despite mostly tasting like raisins.
Chef’s Flavours Nice Custard Cream It mostly tastes like a dry-yet-buttery cookie, dipped in some kind of sweet vanilla cream. I don’t like the 20% recommendation on this. It tastes like there’s too much INW Biscuit in there - makes it too dry, too sharp and acetyl pyraziney, and having a bit of that coconutty off-note you get with too much INW Biscuit. I’m sure it’s fine used at a lower concentration, but 20% is too much. The vanilla cream has a bright, forward vanilla, but I’m not getting that eggyness, just some creamy dairy base.
Chef’s Flavours Jam Roly Poly & Custard - I’m picturing something like a Swiss Roll filled with jam, with custard poured on it. That’s what it tastes like, kind of, but it’s a bit muddled as well. I get something distinctly jammy, but I can’t even tell what kind of fruit jam it’s supposed to be. Strawberry, grape, both? There’s a definite yummy yellow cake flavor underneath it, and it feels wet like it’s soaked in something that could be custard. There’s some vanilla and it’s very rich and thick, and a little buttery, but that could be part of a cake as well if it were a little drier and had some more definition. Not really any separation between cake and what I assume is supposed to be like a pourable custard. This one has a serious sucralose issue at 20% and I wonder if the other flavors would still work if it were brought down lower. The ratio would be the same obviously and the flavors might be too soft, but at least it wouldn’t have that strong Splenda packet finish.
MB Indulge- It’s supposed to be raspberry, caramel, vanilla, custard and cocoa. It tastes like a raspberry cream flavor. Thick-ish, but thin for a custard, more of a heavy cream with light vanilla, though I do get a hint of butter. There’s something that might be a caramel or brown sugar, not really clear, with maybe some cocoa attached to it? The raspberry on top clearly comes across as a raspberry, but it’s just a bit perfumy even at the low end of MB recommended amount. Seems like the perfume would settle down at a lower amount, but then the creamy custard part would be less filled out.
MB Attitude - A complex profile that comes across somewhat muddled, but free of any gross or unpleasant off-notes. It’s supposed to be blueberry, raspberry, custard, and caramel. I get something more like an ill-defined hybrid berry that most often tastes more like raspberry but sometimes tastes more like blueberry. There’s some darker sweetness in there that sometimes tastes kind of like a drier caramel, but up against the more blueberry tones tastes almost chocolatey. Underneath, there’s always a small amount of custard or more like a heavy-cream-but-not-quite custard, but not an especially rich or full one, with no butter or eggy goodness.
MB Chocolate Custard - This one brings the cocoa that was barely there in the MB Indulge, but it’s very much like a little bit of dry cocoa topping rather than an integrated chocolate flavor like I’d expect from a chocolate custard flavor. I don’t think it quite gets to custard either. Underneath that drier and slightly nutty cocoa top note is something like a moderately thick, sweet dairy cream, but just not as thick as you’d get with an eggy custard and barely a hint of butter. Just a touch of chocolate in the finish, where it’s buttery, like the chocolate frosting-type stuff in the center of some truffles.
SA Banana Custard - Candy banana cream flavor. Kind of a shame because I really like the authenticity of their Banana Flambe so I know SA can do a more natural banana, but this one is a lot like Laffy Taffy. It also doesn’t really have anything super custardy about it, it’s more like an extra blatantly artificially flavored banana pudding, like something a kid might enjoy. It’s not a very bold candy banana, though, it seems to be tampered down by a sweet dairy cream with some vanilla in here.
SA Creme Anglaise - Very sweet milk or milky cream. It’s supposed to be a pourable custard made of sugar, egg yolks, hot milk, and often but not necessarily vanilla. I get the sugar and milk and the barest hint of vanilla, but there aren’t any egg yolks here. It’s not even that thick. I mean, I get that it’s supposed to be pourable, but it’s kind of thin. It’s also very smooth. I can see using it anywhere you might want milk, but there are plenty of other options for that (Cream Milky Undertones, FA Milk, FA Cream Fresh, or one of the Sweet Cream flavors). Of those, the one it reminds me of the most is FA Cream Fresh, but sweeter.
MB Legendary Custard - It’s a thick and sweet custard but has a really weird spice note like some sort of nutmeg anise hybrid behind its it’s bright, forward vanilla. Creamy and with medium density, heavy on the milk but light on the butter and without any eggyness.
MB Custard - Custard with light caramel and a light but odd spice note. Airy, not very dense, or especially thick. Not perfectly caramel, but a dark caramelly sweetness. Eggy and only very slightly buttery. Light vanilla tastes more like part of the caramelly stuff than the custard. Spice note in the back seems a bit nutmeggy, but not a clear nutmeg.
SA Vanilla Custard - Bright forward vanilla that tastes like vanilla ice cream top notes, somewhat thin, though, with a sweet but dry and somewhat chalky base, not that smooth, thick custard. If you told me this was a Real Flavors Super Concentrate flavor I wouldn’t doubt it because of the lovely top note and disappointing base. Nothing horribly off though. Reminds me a lot of FA Vienna Cream. FA Vienna Cream is actually thicker and you get more of a dairy taste, but the vanilla is similar, as is the sweetness.
FA Custard- A smooth lemon cream flavor, really. Very lemony, and not quite as thick as I want a custard to be. It does fill out some as it steeps, but it still is more of a thick cream than what I expect from a custard. The lemon is zesty but soft. Not a soft and in faint, it's very present, it's just not a sharp lemon. Has a light touch of vanilla that comes out a bit more as it steeps.
Chef’s Flavors Welsh Custard - A proper vanilla custard. Extremely rich, very sweet, creamy, thick, full, eggy, buttery, deep -- All the greatest vanilla custard adjectives in a bottle. Maybe cloyingly rich and sweet to some people. Lots of vanilla, both some spicy vanilla bean and some dark French vanilla. However, that vanilla tastes little peppery to me, I can almost guarantee there is TFA Vanilla Custard or Vanilla Bean Ice Cream in there, so pepper tasters beware. Has some sticky sweet caramel to it and tastes very much like Flan apart from that pepperyness, but there’s a little sharpness to it like raw brown sugar. I think a slightly lower concentration and a longer steep would help with that sharpness.
FA Custard Premium - Extremely buttery but not oily like CAP VCV1. Very light egg, nice bright but light vanilla that’s right on top throughout, and a smooth, soft mouthful. There’s really nothing missing, but the butter is excessive. I want to use this lower and bring in another custard, vanilla, or cream flavor that isn’t buttery to mitigate that. It’s buttery enough I could probably use it instead of a butter flavor in a bakery or anywhere I want butter + vanilla.
INW Custard - Medium thickness, and rich. Creamy, full mouthfeel. It’s eggy but not really buttery and definitely not oily like CAP VC. It’s sweet. Has a very light warm vanilla undercurrent but is really the most neutral custard I've enjoyed. Also get the barest hint of something darker, like caramel or cookie, hard to pin down because it's so slight.
I find TFA DX Peanut Butter at 8% with 9mg nic salt at 55vg/45pg is good in my pod system. Been using it for a month(at least) in my Aspire Breeze 2. It has a peanutty tobacco flavor.
You get tobacco from TFA DX Peanut Butter? That’s very odd
Using it as a solo flavoring, yes... I do. Try some and tell me what you think. Shake and vape.
Yeah I get this. TPA Peanut Butter when you bump it up above 6 or 7% takes on a strong RY4 kind of thing. I've never really seen RY4 as a tobacco flavour... more an oily, nutty, 'fat' sort of juice. TPA Peanut Butter up over 5% is really similar, but just nuttier, and thiner and drier.
I've actually never tried a DIY flavour that properly tastes like cigarette tobacco. I'm not even sure I want to.
I wouldn't say RY4 kinda thing. Tried RY4 Double with the DX PB. It gave it a sweet note that I wasn't after. I was after a roasted salted peanut flavor. I tried hazelnut, a touch of perique black even put saline to it. Finally just jacked it up to 8% DX PB . That's where I left it until I get another peanut butter to try enhancing the salted peanut flavor.
Liking cigarette tobacco vjuices is akin to enjoying chicory coffee, unsweetened black licorice, very dark chocolates and imported beers that are thick-n-syrupy. You either develop a taste for it or no.
I have vaped a commercial cigarette (blended) tobacco. Initially got ash from it yet it diminished with constant vaping. Can't really say it was great... but definitely vape-able and probably exactly what some people need to jump from smoking to vaping.
I tried TFA Kiwi Double and TFA Strawberry Ripe, both at 5%.
The kiwi one tastes sour, with a slight hint of sweetness, but I'm not getting much "kiwi" flavor from it. I like it more than the strawberry, and I can see how it would mix well with other flavors, but it's very underwhelming by itself.
As for the strawberry, I can't usually taste strawberry in vape juice. It smells amazing, but it tastes nothing like strawberry to me. It's like a soft chemical taste, like every commercial strawberry juice I've tried, but it's not unbearable. I could vape a bottle of it if I had nothing else.
I mixed single flavor bottles of INW Pear and INW Cactus and haven't tried them yet, but I heard the pear and kiwi go very well together, so that's my next step if I like the pear.
Do yourself a favor - don't SFT DX Sweet Cheese. DX PB is the one good DX flavor.
Finally got around to trying my OOO oneshot from their Halloween special and I am very happy with it, my wife and all my friends really like it as well. I tried the "Blue Raspberry Candy" and all my friends say it tastes like a blue dumdum sucker. It has a decent bit of the "candy sweet" flavor that usually is a turn off for me but the blue raspberry in it is tart enough that they equal out really well. I'm excited to try the sweet peach tea I picked up as well
I have been trying Purilum Sunset these past few days.
I'm not sure if this was intended to be used like a One Shot, but I have to crank this up to 15% before I'm happy with it. I actually do like this flavor, which I would describe as "A Tropical Mess", but the only thing I can imagine doing with it is dropping it down to 13%, adding .5% FA Marshmallow and .5% FA Meringue, then maybe .5% CAP Super Sweet.
I'll mess with it some more. Maybe see how it does with a steep. Womp womp.
Hi-liq Birthday cake 3% snv Pretty legit cake concentrate, pretty strong at 3%, would be better at 1.5-2.5%. Full bodied yellow cake with some nice batter in there. On the finish there is a nice vanilla buttercream. I havent mixed with it yet, but this is up there with fw yellow cake and wf fluffy white cake.