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Not sure if this is relevant, but I haven’t found a whole lot of updated information in one spot about additives, or using different flavors to achieve a certain kind of hit. I’ve found a ton of information about Sucralose; however I see a lot of people use Inw cactus for juiciness, flv citrus soda/ VT fizzy sherbert for a fizzy feeling, polar ice/koolada/menthol/WS23 for a certain type of cool feeling, etc etc..
I'm still really unsure about how people come up with the % for their flavors. Is there a target % for total flavors? I usually just go for a recipe and if I alter anything I try to stay with the same %'s but it's been hit or miss. Case in point, I really like Graham Cracker juices.. but everytime I try to make it I can barely taste the Graham Cracker. I haven't tried a recipe with only Graham Cracker flavoring, but if I did, what total % am I looking at for a single flavor like that?
It's much less about aiming for a standard 'total percentage'. The fact that respected, popular recipes exist at both 20% and 2% total flavour says plenty.
Certain manufacturers can tend to be weaker or stronger, but really every single concentrate is different. Your best bet is to go look up average percentages for that specific flavour and build from that.
Ill try to add a more detailed post in the future lineup on this looking at it from a few angles. For now just know that most people ball park and trial and error. There are a few compilations of data from users, particularly the starting percentages list by u/Vishousness. I’ll link in an edit.
Edit: starting percentage wiki
Personal experience with individual flavors.
Suggested use percentages from flavor reviews here.
Usage rate info from alltheflavors (specifically the graph)
What amount of that flavor is used at in other recipes.
All usage of flavors is dependent only on the flavor used, and not the total flavor inthe recipe. But generally, those sources are what determine how much of a given flavor I'll use in a recipe. At least for a v1 recipe. Tweaking levels based on how the recipe turned out can happen...
Also check this out TT recipe by the numbers
IMO it has a lot to do with what profile and what layers you're aiming for. Ex: you want a Cheesecake flavor to come up front you could use CAP Ny Cheesecake at 4% but it can also be used as an accent to give body to a certain recipe at around 1%.
You just have to know exactly what notes you want for the recipe you'll be creating and what role you want your flavoring to cover.
Outside of using saline, has anyone figured out how to add a salt flavor profile to mixes?
Not that I know of. Maybe someone else does. Also saline doesn’t really add salt from what I understand.
I hear people talking about FLV Beer Nuts, but I imagine it would carry plenty of notes you might not want at the same time.
Here's something I don't have quite clear myself.
What is considered advanced skills in DIY? How do you know you're past that newbie point in mixing?
Who cares :) I have never mixed anything that I thought was revolutionary but I love mixing my own juice and making myself happy. But I do enjoy mixing up other people’s stuff and some folks are clearly more advanced than I, based on knowing flavors, well regarded recipes, community contributions etc.
I’m new to DIY and I am hoping that someone could help me out. I vape standalone ice type juice and I purchased FW Extreme Ice as my first flavor. I use a subohm tank usually at 60-80 watts and I was wondering what flavor % would be appropriate.
I’ve seen people post that 1-2% provides a strong juice and I’ve seen FW’s website state that 15% is a good starting point. Anyone with personal experience? Thanks!
I do not have experience with it but I do have experience with coolant and menthols. Definitely start low and work up. Coolant and menthol you can build a tolerance to/for and everyone’s threshold maybe be different and change. Sometimes a combination may be in order with other mints or coolants. Sorry I can’t help you there. Maybe u/juthinc can?
Sorry man. If you'd given me a couple days warning I maybe coulda had one ready to go. Maybe next week.
When mixing recipes posted by the masters and others.what would be nice is to put the best wattage used and any % tweaks for lower wattage MTL devices .
Idk generally I don’t tweak percents and I usually go mtl. I think some stuff just shines mtl for some reason, personally. I’m vaping watermalone for the first time out of a pod and it’s kind of soft for me. I added a little cap ss just to see if that helped rather than raise the %. Idk. I usually vape baccos and they tend to handle pretty solid mtl though. I need to do some tests I think in this area. I’ll add it to the list.
Best wattages is honestly so heavily dependant on your gear that it's impossible to nail that down.
As a rule I'd say that heavy creams, dark tobaccos, and bakery tend to shine when run hotter than fruits, lighter tobaccos, booze, etc.
Past that I'm with Dog, I don't adjust recipes for MTL, instead I just try to keep my MTL mixes to simpler profiles or at least accept that some of the nuance will be lost.
I don't have a whole topic, but a newbie question: One of the recipes I mixed up has "Classic for Pipe Black" as an ingredient. I mixed it up and it was AWFUL (even though being one of the highest rated tobacco recipes). I looked at my bottle and it said "Black for Pipe." So the question is: Is there a difference between "Classic for Pipe Black" and "Black for Pipe?"
Same! I’m sorry you didn’t like it, which recipe was it?
It was Brigade 2506.
Idk man maybe you don’t like heavy baccos. Check out this post here intro to tobacco recipes and consider gold, native god, or Silk Road. Or u/Foment_Life’s Blue lightning.
Im about to put in an order at Bull City to make some new recipes and restock some flavors I'm getting low on. Right now I mix and vape exclusively fruit/drink flavors but I'm looking expand.
I don't need specific recipes as I can do lots of research on my own but I'm having a brain fart with coming up for ideas. Can you suggest any Autumn/Winter type profiles? I already plan to do an Apple Cider and a Pumpkin Pie but beyond that I'm coming up with a blank aside from Egg Nog (which I hate).
I’d say check out kindground’s warm cinnamon spiced cider. I like hs pumpkin pie. Try that at 3-5% and give it a week. Have fun.
Anything apple, cinnamon, richer creams, tons of tobaccos (particularly spiced ones), nutty recipes, rich cakes, sugar cookie type stuff as well.
Pick a dessert you might see at Thanksgiving or Christmas with the family and it's potentially a viable option.
Can i use the flavors in other stuff? I have a soda stream and have some real syrupy mixers. Could i put a few drops of flavouring in it? Im assuming yes but you never know. Also the recommendations for starting out were really good. I was stoked on the cactus juice/guava. I put a few drops of ws23 cause i like a cooler hit. Stellar.