So as a new mixer i notice a ton of popular recipes have some form of savory component like creams. When i used to only buy store bought i avoided anything creamy like the plague, but I'm beginning to wonder if some of those fruity flavors i loved may have had some component of creams or whatnot that i just never picked up on. Should i start trying savory flavors in my mixes? Any help is greatly appreciated. Also, thanks for the great community here. It's already been a ton of help with my first batch. ❤️
Throw it out there, creams aren't savory...
I'll say this, commercial creams and custards and bakeries always tasted like shit to me because I came in when they all turned to the non-Diacetyl flavors for consumer's interests (which is largely false and vaping it is several magnitudes safer than the actual case that caused the panic), and they all tasted like either eggs or old socks or pepper.
DIY, I fucking love cream and custards and bakeries. Vaping 8% CAP Vanilla custard v1 at the moment, lovely. Many fruit flavors really benefit from them, and mostly I use them as a "base" to help the fruit stand out or come out better. Strawberry on its own is dead, but strawberry with a cream... YES. Mango with a touch of cream, blueberry with some custard, lemon with some custard and cookie, and I'm working on a apple bakery (think apple fritter) which I'm fucking loving.
See, i had a feeling that being able to source things myself would be better. I started out on wild fire by propaganda but it changed after a while and i never could find another flavor like it so i just assumed i grew to like solely fruity flavors more. I know the whole diacetyl thing was overblown but was still a bit hesitant. I'm going to try some creamy flavors and maybe a good Graham cracker flavor if i can find one in the next few weeks. What are your thoughts on chocolate?
Chocolate can be great. I've got TFA Double Chocolate clear, very distinctive but easy to work with. Molinberry Glamour Chocolate is the other I have, more bitter dark chocolate versus TFA and I think those two cover good sides, but haven't made much use for it yet. Heard great things about HS Australian chocolate, but my go-to seller doesn't sell it.
I've played around with this Chocolate Marshmallow recipe, very light and airy with just a touch of chocolate and easy to just go at:
3% TFA Double Chocolate clear
1.5% TFA Dairy Milk
1% TFA Marshmallow
0.5% TFA Toasted Marshmallow
0.5% TFA Meringue
0.5% CAP Supersweet
Thinking of taking some TFA DCc out and putting some MB Glamour Choc in to curve off the strong milk chocolate flavor.
Chocolates tend to kill coils almost as bad as tobaccos do, and you have to be careful about which ones you get (like most flavors) HS Australian chocolate, BF Chocolate Truffle, VT chocolate custard,, VT chocolate:mousse, VT Devon Cream, FLV milk chocolate, FLV Creme de Menthe. If you hace all of those you'll be about set. You still need a few other flavors to mix with them (FLV sweet cream FLV Coconut, FLV Sweet Coconut, VT Banana Custard, LA banana cream, etc)
Ok. I've only had very bad experiences with chocolate in store brand so it's interesting to hear that it can work. I may wait a while till i try mixing anything with it but it's like a whole new world with diy so I'll have to give it a shot one of these days. I appreciate the flavor list.
Could also be like me also. When I started DIY just recently I realized why I hate a lot of store bought custards/desserts. TFA VBIC tastes like pepper or just plain bad to me. Suddenly realized a lot of commercial juices are using that and it is why I dislike them. Now finding alternatives that I enjoy
You won't catch me vaping on Roasted Chicken and shit like that lol.
I find the word "avoiding" to be very strong in this case. But that does not mean, you shouldn't act with some caution.
Creams are one of the good tools we have in mixing and you can bet, that the commercial juice you used to vape, many of them probably did contain cream in one or another way. It's not always just used for a creamy effect, but can also be used to make your vapes have a rounder taste and sharpen off some edges here and there.
So avoiding? Nah, but definitely use with caution, depending on which result you're after.
I for one love to use FLV Cream as a smoothening tool based around 0.75-1% range.
Very cool. I remembered reading in the faq about flavor harshness and that a cream could help to mellow out a flavor. Sounds like having a few would be helpful then. I appreciate the input
That is indeed correct!
Before you start head-first into loading up your cart with 5000 creams, remember to research them first, as they come in various strengths!
I'm new to mixing too. I had the same experience as you, nasty, almost burnt taste from commercial juices with cream in them. However, I learned that they seem to do better at lower wattages. Now all I vape are dessert and cream flavors. I've also found that creamy or dessert flavors seen to do better, at least for me, in mesh atomizers. The mesh seems to balance out the different flavor profiles. Say your vaping a strawberry and cream juice, they strawberry will be toned down a bit, and you'll notice the cream flavor a little better.... Evening it out. Whereas with a regular coil type atty, the strawberry flavor seems stronger, almost overpowering the cream. But everyone's taste buds are different, so I might be the only one with this experience.
I've been thinking about picking up a mesh rda. I've had a few standard ones already like the goon, dead rabbit, and a few others. I was just looking at the profile and thinking it might be a good addition for testing flavors. I may grab one now. Which one do you have?
All of them 😂 I have the profile rda, profile unity rta, kylin m rta, and the Doom rta. The profile rda is probably the best flavor out of all of them, but the rta's really aren't far behind, and what I probably use daily the most. However, if you want something just for testing purposes, I'd go with something small and really easy to build on. Probably something like a wasp nano. It's easy to build and has amazing flavor. The profile also is gonna use a lot of cotton, and your gonna be changing it a lot of your experimenting with flavors. The wasp is what I use.