If commercial juices taste fine, then you may need to use some sweetener. I personally put .50 to .75% in most of my juices.
Also not sure if your a new builder or not, but over wicking can kill the flavor big time.
i have some supersweet coming tomorrow so it could be the answer hopefully, thanks for the tip fingers crossed. its my first RDA so i'm only going off how i see them built on you tube, i wouldn't say im a million miles away unless im just packing in the cotton to tight, i guess if commercial tastes o.k it cant be a million miles away...
That's a great RDA for flavor too. What is your mixing method? Shake stir or whip? Also depending on the the mix you may need some steep time. Typically baked goods, and tobacco's need time to meld while bright fruits and candy flavors are good as a shake and vape. I personally am not a fan of sweetener but there is nothing wrong with using a little either
Sorry it capped me at 300 words lol, I guess the question was really why is it tasting good on my tongue but not of anything when I vape? The recipe was mother of dragons milk using 70vg/30pg. I’ve been testing on a RDA
TPA Bavarian cream 2% TPA dragonfruit 7% TPA Strawberry ripe 2% TPA Vanilla swirl 2%
> Sorry it capped me at 300 words lol,
FYI - the limit for messages is 10,000 characters. The title is meant for a SHORT description informing everyone what your message is about.
Disclaimer: I'm new to DIY and still waiting for everything to get in before I can mix anything.
One of my regular commercial flavors a few years ago was a dragonfruit cream. Stick that bottle in a cupboard or closed for a week or so, and it should taste fine.
That recipe is definitely gonna need a steep. And for me I always use sweetener anytime I use a fruit flavor. Also I see that dragon fruit is at 7% I get that it’s a dragon fruit prominent vape but that’s some high ass percentage for dragonfruit. I’ve never used tfa dragon fruit over 4.5%... for me it tends to make everything muted or have no flavor but a semi bitterness until it steeps for at least 4 days or more then it’s like it binds to the strawberries to bring them forward. With dragon fruit this high you will have the dragon fruit at the very front with a nice strawberry accent then going into a creamy vanilla sweet finish. I hope you can reach your goal profile and make this recipe work.
Don't pair dragonfruit with cream, I find ethyl maltol does weird things to creams, maybe 2% cream max. I'm getting a sucker punch vibe from your ejuice so maybe try sucker punch and if you don't like it, then dragonfruit isnt for you. Dragonfruit sucks, I absolutely loved it for the first week I had it and I just can't stand working with it anymore. Alot of people I shared sucker punch bottles with were the same or just hated it from the start. At the time sucker punch was the #1 recipe for dragonfruit, early 2017
Dragonfruit contains Triethyl Citrate, not Ethyl Maltol
I actually made a sucker punch clone off 99juices which I don’t really get much off yet, I also made a mother’s milk clone from the same site which actually is tasting ok more creamy and warm but don’t get the strawberry much at all at 10%, i saw someone commented about using sweet strawberry instead of ripe so might try that or a combination of them both, I thought making juice would be easy just following a recipe lol
Wait until you get into making your own recipes! I went from "this is easy, just two flavours" to "ok this recipe has 6 and I want it at 80%vg" to my current state of surprising myself with blends which sound good in my head, review reading to decide on % and then trial and error. It has a steep beginner learning curve but in no time you'll master any and all flavours! Chin up, we all started from unsuccessful juices
Mother of Dragons' Milk needs a good steep honestly. Otherwise it just ends up tasting like a weird blend of... Stuff... And creams... Not really nice on the tongue and likely you're noticing the strongest note (in this case I presume the swirl or bav cream) to the point where it dulls the rest (TPA Ripe strawberry is basically EM but with a different smell/taste).
Might I suggest listing what ingredients you own at the moment and maybe we can think up something you can try? I do all my recipes without any supersweet and some are ridiculously sweet honestly...
I guess I can recommend you Prickly Victory (1% INW Cactus, 4% CAP Sweet Guava) to get a really REALLY strong and sweet flavour (both are at much higher percent than normally used, regular for Cactus at 0.25 and cap sweet guava 2%) and it's quite the sweet juice but also very full of flavour...
Could it be that the commercial juices you like didn't really go for too much sweetness as much as using stuff such as honeysuckle, TPA dragonfruit etc to add juicyness AND sweetness altogether? If you could list not only your ingredients but also what commercial juices you enjoyed vaping I reckon we could help more.
Additionally, I've heard wonders about the people on the discord channel (should be a link on the sidebar to join) and know of a few famous DIYers who are often there, maybe you can pop in, explain what you're after and what you want (in full detail, mind you, saying "something strawberry-ish" can mean so many different brand's flavours) and the fellas there could help you out.
Also please, PLEASE, whatever you do tasting wise, do NOT put anything with nicotine on your tongue. Flavour tasting via drop on tongue/fingers should only be done before adding nicotine! Just saying as a side note, hopefully you didn't tongue taste with nicotine, safety first!!!
While I agree that you should not eat nicotine, I've worked in a vape shop for years and have gotten plenty of nic in my mouth, often by testing customers juice that they felt was "wrong" in some way. Also there's a good amount of nicotine in Snus which is taken orally.
I'm not saying it's good for you, I'm just saying it's not as dramatic as you make it out to be. One drop off juice with nic will not do anything but taste bitey on your tongue. It's not nice but you will not die or even get sick from that small amount.
Yes it's manageable (there's nic in nightshades foodwise after all) but honestly rather instill some fear of nicotine touching/tasting than not
Fair enough, I'm not big on using fear tactics over education, but you meant well. There's nicotine even in tomatoes. My thoughts were that someone might read what you wrote and if they later accidentally tasted juice with nic they might panic, call 911 and waste emergency services time with something that's totally not a real emergency.
I do get what you were trying to do though, better safe than sorry etc. So fair enough.
Actually cactus is frequently used at .2% to add wetness, but can be used at 2% or more when it's a actual flavor. In personal experiments, I find 2% cactus added to a strong fruit flavor with a citrus to bridge the gap between the two usually works. I've tried Blackcurrant, grape, cherry, blueberry and Raspberry so far (usually with various lemons). Haven't tried apple yet (maybe with lime) or pink guava, but they should work...
But the point is don't confuse where something is used as a additive with where it's used as a accent with where it's used as a primary flavor.
Wow thanks for that detailed reply, a lot to think about there!! Going to looking into that recipe you suggested for sure :) no nic in anything I tasted orally either :)
I just took a screen shot of my inventory for you to see but can see how to add a photo on here
Well mate - I'd say it tastes exactly like TPA Bavarian cream 2%, TPA dragonfruit 7%, TPA Strawberry ripe 2%, TPA Vanilla swirl 2%. If you still don't get anything after adding some sweetener, just try another recipe.
Try single flavor testing the strawberry. Many people don't taste certain strawberry flavors... You may be one.
What coil do you have in the profile?
It’s the wotofo .18 mesh, seems to be fine with premium juice it’s just the stuff I’m making it seem
Try using a different rda that produces flavor.
Spit ballin' here. Recipes are perfected by people FOR THEIR specific hardware and flavor requirements (as it should be). I've found recipes I like a lot, but needed to be bumped up to meet my specific needs. I often find them slightly lacking in strength. But then again, I'm a relatively low wattage vaper at usually 1 Ohm resistance. I often multiply flavor percentages by 1.2 (a 20% increase) if the first attempt wasn't "there," then wash rinse and repeat. Best of luck.
The profile has notoriously bad flavor, you are much better off getting a good single coil rda
Are you kidding? I'll admit, I dont think mesh is the best for bakery type stuff. But when it's set up right I can get some crazy flavor from a Profile RDA. NexMesh is the way to go though IMO.
I bet that if you blind tested a bunch of rdas with the same exact coil, juice and mod that they would all taste the same.
I have this friend who has a big collection of vape gear and one day we were hanging at his place and I brought my old as dust rda from 2008 so we can do blind tests, anyway he felt stupid after because we kind of crushed his big "connoisseur" ego due to the fact they all tasted pretty much the same.