#Announcements

>The DIY Discord continues to grow and it's been really awesome getting to know so many new people and interact with some of the long time lurkers of this subreddit. The lobby often goes from hectic to mysteriously silent but there are many other channels to hop in and discuss more specific topics of DIY like flavors, recipes, sales, etc.

The newest channel #giveaway was created to pass along some free stuff from vendors nice enough to offer it up. Liquid Barn kicked it off by giving away a few kits (with scales) and starting last week Flavorah jumped in the mix to hook you up with some free flavors. I'll start the next giveaway right after I finish this post! Come check it out and enter to win 10 free Flavorah flavors of your choice. We'll even help you decide which ones to pick :)

 

#Intro

If you're new to the Digest the basic concept is just to highlight all the best posts you might have missed; and unless you're checking the sub multiple times a day, it's likely you've missed a few. Last week's ID10-T Edition was a fun departure from the standard format and, who knows, considering how much people seemed to like it, it may happen again.

 

#The Highlights

• /u/TeslaDelMar with the help of /u/foment_life and /u/EdibleMalfunction went data mining to come up with a list of flavors to avoid and be cautious of.

• /u/DaddyPigSmokeJuice informed us of the sad news that Real Flavors was shutting down their operation.

• /u/standardtissue did some math on DIY vs Commercial and was floored when they realized it was over a 92% savings.

• /u/EvasiveJoker425 did a cost breakdown on the supplies and flavors needed to make their favorite DIY recipe.

• /u/Tauropos definitely proved "We're not crazy to be doomsday prepping" well, sort of... It turns out that Washington's recent "temp" ban on flavored e-liquid includes some overreaching language on flavors sold with the intent to be used for vaping, so EcigExpress decided to remove the VG/PG/Nic from their site.

• /u/Shty_Dev scraped a bunch of flavor company sites and made a spreadsheet of 1600+ e-juice flavors with links. It's certainly neat and anyone who knows me knows I love spreadsheets but... I cannot for the life of me figure out what's useful about this one.

• /u/ID10-T decided to update the First Order Flavors and because it's all about the nominations and votes, things became slightly awkward when the votes were tallied. /u/isuamadog summed it up nicely when he said "definitely not a first order list as much as a “mixer’s toolkit”" but, in an attempt to right the wrongs that were completely out of his hands: >"I'm going to write a detailed history of first order flavors, starting with each of the first first order flavors how they fell from the ranks over time, working upward to the latest list and which ones are now appearing on the first order flavor list for the first time ever."

• First Order Flavors: A History Volume 1

• First Order Flavors: A History Volume 2

• First Order Flavors: A History Volume 3

• First Order Flavors: A History Volume 4

• Volume 5 Coming Soon

• /u/UnappreciatedRobot hit us with some Helpful Features on Alltheflavors for Tutorial Tuesday.

• /u/heimsins_konungr released a simple 2 flavor lychee-cranberry mix called Lycran

• /u/Killscreen- did a pretty comprehensive flavor review for FM Mint

• /u/juthinc talked about Crafting Dessert Tobacco Recipes for Tutorial Tuesday and even "stepped out of character" to say something not positively damning about vanilla.

 

And now for some flavor Safety which was definitely a theme the last couple weeks starting with Tesla's post up there and leading to even more concerns:

• /u/elephantstone_ asked "How unsafe is unsafe?" to which /u/foment_life replied:

>In the instances of fructose or sugar syrup flavors, we know they release carcinogenic compounds when heated. Does that mean lung cancer is absolutely inevitable? No. Does it mean that they elevate the risk associated with vaping? Yes.

>Diacetyl or DAAP containing compounds don't concern me. Fructose absolutely does.

>One factor is the question of whether or not a flavor profile can be achieved without it. If the answer is "no" it becomes weighing risk vs desire for the flavor. If the answer is "yes" it becomes a question of why I'm being extra stubborn about using something that we know can do harm.

• /u/Exposed84 asked "...are sweeteners safe to vape?" to which /u/SpelWerdzRite replied:

> I recommend watching DIYorDIE's video on sucralose (the sweetener in Cap Super Sweet), he actually speaks to a chemist about an interesting study done on the topic. After listening to this I certainly considered stopping putting sucralose in my juice, but just can't stay away from that sweet lips feeling it gives.

> https://youtu.be/qc79f1fi6_U

• /u/KingpinOfTheSlum noticed that their bottle of TFA Cappuccino listed corn syrup and caramel coloring as ingredients. It turns out that TFA does not list it on their site and Bull City may have a labeling issue.

> Once there is confirmation one way or the other I'll link to the updated post or let you know what I find out.

• /u/selfperpetuatingauto noticed that TFA Citrus Punch has Vitamin E listed as a component to which /u/EdibleMalfunction replied:

> Vitamin E Acetate is the problem ingredient. Vitamin E is not. So I'd hope the ingredient list is accurate.

And while Vitamin E Acetate and Vitamin E are different, I couldn't find any conclusive information to share that makes me think Vitamin E is somehow safe. /u/TeslaDelMar added:

>We put together a list of flavors to avoid here based on scraping ~2000 MSDS via software.

>We added Vitamin E to be cautious, but it is usually used at <0.01% and only three TPA flavors have it.

> EDIT: Only TPA Lemon Lime has Vitamin E in any substantive amount.

And finally, the last one on Safety

• /u/Alex470 asked about Polysorbate 20 to which /u/Foxer604 replied:

>It's common in food - it's an emulsifier.

>Polysorbate 20 is used as a wetting agent in flavored mouth drops such as Ice Drops, helping to provide a spreading feeling to other ingredients like SD alcohol and mint flavor.

>The World Health Organization has suggested acceptable daily intake limits of 0–25 mg of polyoxyethylene sorbitan esters per kg body weight.[3]

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Discord Recipe Channel Spotlight

####Autumn Memories by RinVapes Co. | Flavor | % ---|---|---- FLV | Butterscotch | 0.5% FLV | Cream | 0.5% CAP | Gingerbread | 1.5% FLV | Pumpkin Spice | 0.5% FLV | Vanilla Pudding | 0.5% TFA | Whipped Cream | 0.5% JF | Yellow Cake | 1%

###Follow DIY_Discord on ATF for more recipes!

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#DIY Podcast Roundup

####Live Show Schedule | Day | Time (EST) | Show ---|---|---- Monday | 5PM | The Monday Show - A short/casual show with /u/enyawreklaw geared toward new mixers Monday | 11PM | Noted - Flavor of the Week comes to life Wednesday | 5PM | Live Mixing with /u/enyawreklaw Thursday | 6PM | Developed Live - A break down and discussion of last week's collaborative recipe Friday | 5PM | Live Mixing with /u/enyawreklaw Saturday | 1PM | SaturDIY'ing with Friends - Fresh03 and 4-12+ other mixers talk mixing. Sunday | 6PM | Mixin' Vixens - Developing and discussing recipes inspired by user submitted pictures

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####DIY YouTube Channels >These are some of the ones I'm subscribed to. If you know of a good one not on the list, drop it in the comments and I'll check it out and probably add it to this list.

• New Amsterdam Vape
• DIY or DIE
• Developed
• Mixin Vixens
• fresh03
• Rin Vapes
• Down The Rabbit Hole
• The Fog Vlog
• DIY ELIQUID RECIPES
• DIY Mixers Crew
• Vapin Trucker
• Flavor-Pro Jennifer Jarvis
• MixLife
• ConcreteRiver
• DIY E-Juice University
• DIY Clones Juice Recipes

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