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Where does the Nicotine we use come from?
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by VanDuskyabout 6 years agoM1x3rGuy069

Extraction from tobacco plant

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by RancerDSabout 6 years ago

Nicotine is present in a lot of other forms of plants; except the concentration is way lower than that occurring in tobacco leaves. There is also synthetic forms of nicotine, but it's unclear if that is cost-prohibitive. Next Generation Labs is one company that produces it. It is called Tobacco-Free Nicotine. Any commercial juices that have TFN in the product name refers to this.

And supposedly it's a healthier option that naturally occurring nicotine alkaloids. I have no earthly idea if it tastes better, worse or the same. Guess it's up to you to delve into that further. :)

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by DaJuiceIODLooseabout 6 years ago

Decided to look into the next gen, $5,000 a kilo. If you buy 3 you get 1 free though. We can pool our resources, I'm in for $50.

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by Steaklovingveganabout 6 years ago

I also got $50.

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by wolfpak31about 6 years ago

I’m down for this too. Sounds like it’s powder form. This would be Perfect for long term storage.

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by [deleted]about 6 years ago

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by sheldonopolisabout 6 years ago

Extracted or synthetic, you can see quite huge differences in quality between brands. Mine is only barely colored and doesn't smell nutty in any way. It stays like that, even after years of storage in the freezer and having one of the bottles opened since another half year. I don't care about its origin.

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by [deleted]about 6 years ago

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by kuri_sanTouabout 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

>Is it made in a laboratory?

synthesized? no, it's all naturally extracted and suspended in PG or VG in specific concentrations. your choice depending on locale

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by Rotor_Tillerabout 6 years ago

Mainly tobacco extraction: However it is not the same type of nicotine. We mostly use freebase nicotine, but the most common type in tobacco is an obscure type of salt nic. For pods we use Nicotine benzoate and salicylate.

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by holobyteabout 6 years ago

So... (universal code that indicates a retarded question incoming) if we still use tobacco to extract our nicotine, why is the tobacco industry lobbying against vaping?

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by kuri_sanTouabout 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Nicotine is cheap. A pack of cigarettes are expensive

Edit- also highly addictive

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by rabidnzabout 6 years agoElixir Sommelier

Cigarettes are dirt cheap but the tax isn't. That's why we still have tobacco and alcohol.

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by RancerDSabout 6 years ago

Your comment made me curious. Looked into the taxes and was amazed. The excise tax is only 17 cents in Missouri and a whopping $4.35 in New York state. Oh... and while we have protections against "double taxation", it looks like sales taxes are charged ON TOP OF the excise tax. One day, we'll be paying taxes on taxes on taxes???

It really doesn't make sense to me; paying taxes on another tax. But this is U.S. o'Merica.

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by juthincabout 6 years agoI improved Grack and all I got was this lousy flair

They aren't. They're in the vaping business now. Big Pharma is the enemy now, just many vapers don't understand that.

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by marshwizardabout 6 years ago

I'd say any organisation, government, company, individual, that profits directly or indirectly from the cigarette industry, via taxes, investments or plain revenue, is the enemy, because we are a threat to their income.

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by juthincabout 6 years agoI improved Grack and all I got was this lousy flair

Most tobacco companies have invested in vaping. They figure they'll make money either way (and may make more in the future from vaping than they possibly can going forward from tobacco... tobacco use has been on a downward trend, and societal acceptance of smoking keeps decreasing, so within this century they'd be out of (the tobacco) business, but if Juul et al are able to grab new market share that cigarettes couldn't (as well as many of those who'd otherwise actually still have started smoking) then they have a new revenue stream. Big Pharma stands to lose money from the 'smoking cessation' crap they have (with what, 5% success rates, so they can keep bilking the same customers over and over) as well as chemo drugs for cancers from smoking, medication for chronic conditions caused by smoking, etc. And maybe there's a drug or two that's actually carcinogenic, but nobody's clued in yet due to the cause being attributed to tobacco use?

Then, there's the militant anti-smoking lobby. As smoking rates drop, they become less relevant, they become less able to raise funds, to obtain government grants, etc. So much so that some of their staff are in risk of needing to find actual jobs if they don't find a new target, like vaping. Which is not only a target because most vapers are their original enemy (smokers, even if former smokers), but because we're also the reason they're becoming less relevant.

And government is always the enemy, too.

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